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San Pedro second attempt-need experts knowledge...
    #26924320 - 09/08/20 08:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

last post-https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26873527

Hello everyone. this time I froze the cactus X3 times and collected all the cactus juice (after thawed). then I added some more water to the solids,let it soak for few hours and then squeezed the solids to collect the water. the juice and water were combined and drank. (no tea was made-no heat).

it was pretty easy to drink. no nausea at all for 1 hour then suddenly from 0-100 I needed to puke because I could feel the effects starting. but after I puked all the effects were gone for 2 hour until reappeared.

It was strong,I could clearly feel the effects (even lasted for many hours) and it was not placebo but it felt like it was the effects of the other alkaloids and not of the mescaline. it was lack all the awe of the world,no euphoria,couldnt see and feel the energy of everything.
there were strong visuals but in the form of patterns-the clouds were changing shapes and went bigger and smaller,the floor tiles patterns acted the same. but it was not colorful nor bright nor fairytale like.
so in one way it was strong but in the other way it wasnt magical,I cant explain it.

1.maybe all the mescaline was left in the solids but its hard for me to believe that all the other alkaloids were extracted to the juice without the mescaline which is water soluble too.

2.maybe it was just a cactus that had not much mescaline but a lot of other alkaloids.

3.maybe it was a mescaline effect but this time it was this way?

I dont really know what happened and will be happy to hear your thoughts.
THANKS


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Re: San Pedro second attempt-need experts knowledge... [Re: golmo]
    #26924448 - 09/08/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Why not simply make a tea..?
Mescaline is watersoluble, yes, but it's way more soluble in hot water than in cold water. Hence why everyone boils them instead of soaking in cold water.

Freezing and thawing multiple times takes more time and effort han just boiling the cactus for a few hours.

The best method is eating the raw flesh. This way you can be sure to ingest all that is there, with no loss.
Don't eat the whole plant though, just the dark green flesh right under the waxy skin.
It's like 150g, like a cup full of flesh, for a good dose, if the cactus is potent.


The other alkaloids are not as psychedelic as mescaline. They might alter and extend the mescaline's effects, but as far as I know they don't produce strong open eye visuals on their own.

So I think you might had mescaline in your dose. Maybe your cacti are simply not too potent.
How much did you use? What cactus? Any pictures?

Maybe this helps: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26913079

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Re: San Pedro second attempt-need experts knowledge... [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26924582 - 09/08/20 12:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

thanks for the reply.
last time I ate fresh flesh. I took 390 grams of dark green flesh only and could manage to eat only 130 out of it. I puked 1 hour later and the overall trip was maybe 3-4/10. the cactus used in this post is the remaining 260 grams. I strained all the 260 grams of solids and drank the water.

I dont make a tea because I cant handle the taste. this juice was much better.
I think though that next time I will make a tea but without lemon because I think that the added lemon makes the tea taste much worse.

edit: In addition, I want to avoid eating it because cactus has a lot of unwanted materials in it like calcium,chlorophyl and more...
and is keeping the juice/tea for 1 hour till puke enough?


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Re: San Pedro second attempt-need experts knowledge... [Re: golmo]
    #26924950 - 09/08/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You can eat a few bites of the cactus and see if you feel any effects in an hour or two. You can smoke weed to bring it out if it subtle (though it will not compare to a real mescaline experience). If not, the mescaline content is likely very low. Just my 2c with my experiences.


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Re: San Pedro second attempt-need experts knowledge... [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26925012 - 09/08/20 05:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I took 30 mg of thc in cannabis oil about 7 hours after drinking. it really made it much stronger-wasnt sp trip and wasnt even cannabis high,just a mixed feelings.


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Re: San Pedro second attempt-need experts knowledge... [Re: golmo]
    #26925283 - 09/08/20 08:21 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

microdoses + weed are fake trips (not terrible, but not magical). but they'll confirm if you have any mesc in the cactus

I guess it's all subjective though


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