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Anything I can do at this point with pinning?
#26924238 - 09/08/20 07:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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So here's my scenario. I used to do cakes years ago and now decided to get back in but with different technique. Using BoDS simple shoe tek. Everything fine used oats for spawn coco coir for substrate. Colonized mixed put it into shoe box did field capacity. 2 shoe boxes have 90 little holes in the bag and the other 2 have 50 holes in the bag. Instead of a lid I'm using the bag over the top.
Now everything seems fine. The whole surface didn't colonize but I got a lot of surface area with patches everywhere. I got like 78 of these suckers all in different sizes growing in one of them (shoe box). The other 3 also have growth. And those are the only ones I counted on the one box. But I got like 14 or 16 maybe even more growing on the sides and even on the bottom of the shoe box. I know I know i should have lined it with a trash liner. Question is there anything at this point I can do to help curve this at this late in the game? this is the 3rd day after I first saw pinning and this one looks like it's going to explode with more but I fear this guys will be growing all over the place. Can I improve surface at this point somehow or chalk it up to learning experience on these 4 shoeboxes?
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Edited by Bigrichshrooms (09/08/20 07:52 AM)
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Re: Anything I can do at this point with pinning? [Re: Bigrichshrooms]
#26924241 - 09/08/20 07:51 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Funny how I followed this same exact tek, and it just completely failed. Now I did use coir/verm as a sub, but other than a difference in yield I really don't believe the sub will be making a difference. Had to throw 1 box out and still waiting on the other to pin. Not sure I'll use this tek again, good to know it worked for someone though.
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Re: Anything I can do at this point with pinning? [Re: MisterKush]
#26924254 - 09/08/20 08:00 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dude it works like a charm. The one with 70 plus growing in it. Was only had 2 visible pins. 3 days later now I got growths of 1 inch and lower all the place. I'm so happy so far and feel I should run with it. My fear is that all these growing on the bottom and sides I'll have issues later on harvesting if the whole thing doesn't come out solid. Know what I mean. Like I'll probably end up tearing the thing apart just to get to the bottom and side ones.
I'm testing the waters with how many holes I used. I used a punch to make 25 holes which gives me 50 holes and so forth. One hole across the bag makes 2. Did I use too many holes and they not liking the surface as much as they're suppose to?
And I wouldn't give on the this tek. My first time at it and despite this they are thriving. My other shoe boxes I have to make sure the bag aren't sinking down to the surface because I got 2 inch growths touching the bag.
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Edited by Bigrichshrooms (09/08/20 08:02 AM)
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Re: Anything I can do at this point with pinning? [Re: Bigrichshrooms]
#26924390 - 09/08/20 09:43 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just didn't have luck with it. The one out of the two that I did got all these metabolites on it and was bruising like a mono for some reason even though I was misting properly and 1 foot away spraying up and letting the water droplets fall down.
I had to junk it because it started getting musty and I didn't trust it nor want whatever was causing it to spread to my other totes. As far as the PE that I have left, I took off the grocery bag and put the lid on it since it seemed to be drying out WAY too fast, which is also funny because I poked about 50% less holes than you say you did.
Any shoebox I've ever done, regardless of the tek has failed. It always ends up yellow and bruised. I say monos and mini monos FTW. My current Brazilian mono just spat out 180grams wet and is still going on its 1st flush.
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Re: Anything I can do at this point with pinning? [Re: MisterKush]
#26924547 - 09/08/20 11:36 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Make sure to pack the edges in really tight next time you make tubs, that helped me a lot with sidepins.
They’re not a big deal they’ll grow fine and the sub it’s really easy to get out a shoeboxes, especially once it shrinks up a little.
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Re: Anything I can do at this point with pinning? [Re: MisterKush]
#26924573 - 09/08/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Make sure to pack the edges in really tight next time you make tubs, that helped me a lot with sidepins.
They’re not a big deal they’ll grow fine and the sub it’s really easy to get out a shoeboxes, especially once it shrinks up a little.
I did level out the substrate on the very top. I made sure that all edges were flush to the sides. Still got this issue. But you kind of put me at ease a bit. I hope it all goes well. about every 8 to 10 hours it keeps exploding with more pins. These babies are growing quick. I didn't even think about looking under the tub. I was shocked too se they were growing down there too just as big as the top ones.
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MisterKush said: I just didn't have luck with it. The one out of the two that I did got all these metabolites on it and was bruising like a mono for some reason even though I was misting properly and 1 foot away spraying up and letting the water droplets fall down.
I had to junk it because it started getting musty and I didn't trust it nor want whatever was causing it to spread to my other totes. As far as the PE that I have left, I took off the grocery bag and put the lid on it since it seemed to be drying out WAY too fast, which is also funny because I poked about 50% less holes than you say you did.
Any shoebox I've ever done, regardless of the tek has failed. It always ends up yellow and bruised. I say monos and mini monos FTW. My current Brazilian mono just spat out 180grams wet and is still going on its 1st flush.
Hmmm I haven't even misted mine at all. Bods tek said "misting? maybe once or twice a week if that"... So I went with "if that". I have not misted it at all yet. I didn't want to mess with it since it's growing so fast and the bag you can clearly see it has a thin layer of moisture on the inside with dry circles circumfrencing the holes in the bag. I thought top surface looked healthy. All the white growth that popped through is either turned to fruiting bodies or little white patches with spiky like growth.
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Re: Anything I can do at this point with pinning? [Re: Bigrichshrooms]
#26925241 - 09/08/20 07:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow, I really don't understand why mine didn't produce moisture whatsoever. I've had to mist that fucking thing 3-4 times a day just because it's constantly drying up and never has any small beads of water on the surface. Most interesting thing about it, is that I used the same exact substrate mix in this as I did with the mini mono and that is blooming fairly well. Like I said I got about 180g's wet from it so far and it's first flush isn't done yet.
As far as the shoebox/grocery bag tek goes. I'm not sure what magical grocery bags people are using that traps in all of that moisture but I'd sure like some for myself because this is bullshit and a complete turnoff for me as far as different methods of growing. Shame too because I like the conviencance and size of these shoeboxes...fucking stupid that I can't get it to work..doesn't seem like anybody can give me the answer to resolve the problem, I'm not sure anybody would even know why it's doing this. Happy for you though man, and a bit jealous in all honesty because of how many times mine have failed. Pisses me off a little bit too seeing everybody else succeed in the same damn thing I'm doing yet I'm failing.
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Re: Anything I can do at this point with pinning? [Re: MisterKush]
#26925257 - 09/08/20 08:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just leave the lid on the shoe box. If I have a fan pointing towards my stacks I can leave the lids latched until pins show up, if no fan pointing then I leave the lids unlatched. Wait for mushrooms
The most important part of growing is making clean grain spawn, which means using agar to make sure of it. Once you do that it’s pretty hard not to get something at least half decent as long as your sub is in some kind of tub. I get canopies from most tubs just using an MS culture. I don’t know if it’s luck or just experience but I don’t even do anything special. An occasional misting.
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Re: Anything I can do at this point with pinning? [Re: Roger Clemency]
#26925285 - 09/08/20 08:21 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I haven't even touched agar yet although I plan to soon. I am and have always used MS for everything. I've had many successful cakes, 1 or 2 semi-successful shoeboxes although all of the others failed no matter what I tried with MS and coir/verm and now a pretty decent mini-mono although all the fruits that came out all took to the sides instead and I never got a "canopy" of anything. Should just make a post of all of my failures to help people either learn what not to do or hope that somebody can tell me what I did wrong in each one. So frustrating.
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Re: Anything I can do at this point with pinning? [Re: MisterKush]
#26925364 - 09/08/20 09:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The problem sounds like either too much airflow or the sub prepped too dry.
Like he said just snapping the lid on and leaving it is fine. Although it’s so dry here if I’ve got the window ac running full time they’ll dry out even with the lid in some parts of the room but that’s not a common issue.
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Re: Anything I can do at this point with pinning? [Re: A.k.a]
#26925917 - 09/09/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I also have the window unit A/C running all day everyday as well. Maybe this is drying things out? the A/C is in the same room as well that the closet is where my stuff is and the closet doesn't have a door so I draped a sheet over the doorway.
I just don't get why the grocery bag didn't work for me. I have now had the lid on the past 2 days so I really hope it triggers them to pin because there are knots/white dots all over the surface. It's almost a spit in the face to see them but not see the sprout.
However, I'm still finding myself having to mist 2 or 3 times a day now. Still better than the 4-6 times I was with the bag.
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