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Re: Which recreational drugs are you addicted to? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #26926398 - 09/09/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Don’t get me wrong I had a lot of fun riding every roller coaster in the park but imo it’s a waste of time

Drugs can be fun, nothing wrong with it if you can be responsible


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Re: Which recreational drugs are you addicted to? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #26926457 - 09/09/20 02:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Can't wait to be back to 0 again. Drugs are such a waste of time and life. IF I could go back in time and do it all over again I wouldn't even bother with the garbage. Psychs, opiates, speed, pot, Its all just a bunch of trash from someone who's done everything every way you can.



I don't think psychs are trash  :bestcry:


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Re: Which recreational drugs are you addicted to? [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
    #26926467 - 09/09/20 02:39 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone who hates, or loves, psychedelics is welcome to casually leave them at my home for consumption.


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Re: Which recreational drugs are you addicted to? [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
    #26926468 - 09/09/20 02:39 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Seconded!


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Re: Which recreational drugs are you addicted to? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26926510 - 09/09/20 03:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'm addicted to alcohol and it's no longer recreational.


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Re: Which recreational drugs are you addicted to? [Re: Patlal]
    #26926515 - 09/09/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'm addicted to hydromprphone,Xanax, mirtzapine and pot slot of the recreation there is gone it's now for medical problems. When I was young I had a stomach condition that almost killed me because I couldn't keep food down. When I was 8mthey put me on hundreds of mgs of concerts and Ritalin and It broke my psyche to where I needed Xanax. I got addicted to diluadid at 15 when I got the news that my dad had 5 years to live. I did get clean one time but I've had a serious accident with major injuries since then and I haven't been able to function without it. I hate that it's in my life but I really do think the quality of life I would have without any kind of pain control or muscle relaxant control,panic attack meds,ptsd meds life would be torture without something to help the pain and my psychological well being

Neurologist says that I have occipital neuralgia and muscle tension that compresses on my spine but is not operable so he said I should be back on soma but because of the opioid national emergency there's 2 problems with that. My psychiatrist said the FDA is threatening his liscene if he gives me the proper dose of Xanax I need for my panic attacks,extra muscle tension and PTSD which has given me more pain and really ruined my life to the point where I couldn't finish colleges and barely see friends because of the anxiety and depression but also he said he can't prescribe me Xanax anymore if I get ANY muscle relaxers or opioids. So that on it's own is keeping me from the muscle relaxers the expert said I needed but also since I've had to self medicate with hydromorphone for 12 years, if I got past that I would still have to drug test for pain management and theydnfind the diluadid. I've been in this catch 22 since the national opioid emergency was announced in 2017.


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Re: Which recreational drugs are you addicted to? [Re: Patlal]
    #26926770 - 09/09/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm addicted to alcohol and it's no longer recreational.




That's a killer did that for 5 years. Honestly i'd rather be addicted to heroin than that fucking nightmare again.


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Re: Which recreational drugs are you addicted to? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #26927049 - 09/09/20 07:42 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Patlal said:
I'm addicted to alcohol and it's no longer recreational.




That's a killer did that for 5 years. Honestly i'd rather be addicted to heroin than that fucking nightmare again.



I have close relatives going through that....I wouldnt wish it on anyone :/


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Re: Which recreational drugs are you addicted to? [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26927235 - 09/09/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Patlal said:
I'm addicted to alcohol and it's no longer recreational.




That's a killer did that for 5 years. Honestly i'd rather be addicted to heroin than that fucking nightmare again.



I have close relatives going through that....I wouldnt wish it on anyone :/



Same here. Every adult figure I had when I was growing up were alcoholics, and still are. Rough shit.


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Re: Which recreational drugs are you addicted to? [Re: Nonagon Infinity] * 1
    #26927242 - 09/09/20 09:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Nonagon Infinity said:
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Enjoywho said:
Can't wait to be back to 0 again. Drugs are such a waste of time and life. IF I could go back in time and do it all over again I wouldn't even bother with the garbage. Psychs, opiates, speed, pot, Its all just a bunch of trash from someone who's done everything every way you can.



I don't think psychs are trash  :bestcry:




Natural (Plant based) psychs that have oral ROA are not so bad when used in moderation and as a tool to motivate you to improve your life. Psilocybin is a good one.

Chemical psychs are just brainfry.


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Re: Which recreational drugs are you addicted to? [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #26927276 - 09/09/20 10:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Just because something is natural doesn’t mean it’s better lol


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Re: Which recreational drugs are you addicted to? [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #26927290 - 09/09/20 10:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Natural (Plant based) psychs that have oral ROA are not so bad when used in moderation and as a tool to motivate you to improve your life. Psilocybin is a good one.

Chemical psychs are just brainfry.



Where do you draw the line between Natural psychs and Chemical psychs? Let's take a popular example: LSD. LSD can be synthesized from Lysergic acid and alkaloids found naturally occurring in Ergot (another mushroom, incidentally). Lysergic acid can be synthesized, but it can also be acquired via hydrolysis of naturally occurring lysergamides. It might be synthesized in a laboratory, but LSD can still ultimately be made (and has been made) from naturally occurring chemicals, some of which come from mushrooms.

I don't think the difference between a harmful chemical and a medicinal one comes down to whether it's plant based or not. Arsenic is deadly, but it can be found in apple seeds. Phallolysin is found naturally occurring in Amanita phalloides, but a small dosage of that will make you die a slow and painful death.

Besides, the claim that chemical psychs are "just brainfry" is, in the best case, hyperbolic and, in the worst case, demonstrates a misunderstanding of neuroscience. I'm making the assumption that LSD falls under the "chemical psychs" category in your book and, if it does, there is no neuroscientific research to suggest that it can induce permanent brain damage at the dosages commonly used for recreation. There is a massive body of research to support this claim, some of it dating all the way back to the early 1940's, when Sandoz Laboratories started mass-producing LSD specifically for usage in psychiatric research projects. When used at a proper dosage, in a safe setting, and with psychological preparation, LSD poses little to no bodily or psychological risk to a user over the age of 18 and with no personal or family history of psychosis.


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Re: Which recreational drugs are you addicted to? [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
    #26927333 - 09/09/20 11:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Dabs. Recently i cut back big time and its helped a lot. I only dab at night and took a 2 week tolerance break . Spent sooo much money mindlessly taking huge globs. Easy 30 dollars a day on a gram of live res. Did that for a solid 2 years. Wish I could get the money and time back.


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Re: Which recreational drugs are you addicted to? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26927780 - 09/10/20 07:51 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm addicted to hydromprphone,Xanax, mirtzapine and pot slot of the recreation there is gone it's now for medical problems. When I was young I had a stomach condition that almost killed me because I couldn't keep food down. When I was 8mthey put me on hundreds of mgs of concerts and Ritalin and It broke my psyche to where I needed Xanax. I got addicted to diluadid at 15 when I got the news that my dad had 5 years to live. I did get clean one time but I've had a serious accident with major injuries since then and I haven't been able to function without it. I hate that it's in my life but I really do think the quality of life I would have without any kind of pain control or muscle relaxant control,panic attack meds,ptsd meds life would be torture without something to help the pain and my psychological well being

Neurologist says that I have occipital neuralgia and muscle tension that compresses on my spine but is not operable so he said I should be back on soma but because of the opioid national emergency there's 2 problems with that. My psychiatrist said the FDA is threatening his liscene if he gives me the proper dose of Xanax I need for my panic attacks,extra muscle tension and PTSD which has given me more pain and really ruined my life to the point where I couldn't finish colleges and barely see friends because of the anxiety and depression but also he said he can't prescribe me Xanax anymore if I get ANY muscle relaxers or opioids. So that on it's own is keeping me from the muscle relaxers the expert said I needed but also since I've had to self medicate with hydromorphone for 12 years, if I got past that I would still have to drug test for pain management and theydnfind the diluadid. I've been in this catch 22 since the national opioid emergency was announced in 2017.




It's this shit right here that is fucking brutal for chronic pain patients! I feel for you. I am in pain management and am seeing this very thing with meds for people that have never gone astray of their scripts. It's sad and sickening how the pharmacies and docs are being threatened by those fucking assholes who basically found a way to cut back on expensive meds supplemented by the state/medicaid/medicare. I also blame the companies that produce the meds and charge outrageous fees for helping people with them. I have seen a med that cost $3.50 a month marked up to 187.00 bucks or more!


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Re: Which recreational drugs are you addicted to? [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
    #26928698 - 09/10/20 05:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Nonagon Infinity said:
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RogerTheRetard said:
Natural (Plant based) psychs that have oral ROA are not so bad when used in moderation and as a tool to motivate you to improve your life. Psilocybin is a good one.

Chemical psychs are just brainfry.



Where do you draw the line between Natural psychs and Chemical psychs?




I reckon that natural plant/fungi/cacti (living) crops that grow out of our planets soil are natural produce and were created by allah/the planet and plants and animals and humans were supposed to consume like in the ancient days.

Chemical laboratory made or semi-synthetic produce or drugs or whatever you want to name them are not really intended "naturally" for humans to consume so in my theory are rougher for the body/brain to consume and perhaps are not the most ideal things a human being should be ingesting. And they were made by humans, not god.

Humans will never be able to substitute what god made naturally for human beings to consume. In terms of things that the human body was designed to consume/digest... That is my philosophy anyway.

And yes, I do in fact know that nature has plants/mushrooms that will poison and kill you or make you sick if you consume them. This point is invalid and distracts from the point at hand. I always get told this in return...

Psilocybin mushrooms is a great natural psychedelic because you can just eat them fresh if you want to or dehydrate them for future consumption. No need to prepare them or anything they are good to go just raw out of the earth...

LSD is a chemical psychedelic.

My brain and body was designed to consume magic mushrooms.
My brain and body was not designed to consume LSD.

Yes, I technically can consume chemical drugs and have them effect my brain receptors and distort my perception of reality. And I can perceive the chemical drugs as "enjoyable" sure...

But this does not necessarily mean that my brain and body was actually designed by nature to consume chemical drugs, if that makes any kind of sense.

Just my perspective anyway. :shrug:


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Re: Which recreational drugs are you addicted to? [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #26928707 - 09/10/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'm with Roger on this, I feel it too.


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Re: Which recreational drugs are you addicted to? [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #26928786 - 09/10/20 06:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I reckon that natural plant/fungi/cacti (living) crops that grow out of our planets soil are natural produce and were created by allah/the planet and plants and animals and humans were supposed to consume like in the ancient days.

Chemical laboratory made or semi-synthetic produce or drugs or whatever you want to name them are not really intended "naturally" for humans to consume so in my theory are rougher for the body/brain to consume and perhaps are not the most ideal things a human being should be ingesting. And they were made by humans, not god.

Humans will never be able to substitute what god made naturally for human beings to consume. In terms of things that the human body was designed to consume/digest... That is my philosophy anyway.

And yes, I do in fact know that nature has plants/mushrooms that will poison and kill you or make you sick if you consume them. This point is invalid and distracts from the point at hand. I always get told this in return...

Psilocybin mushrooms is a great natural psychedelic because you can just eat them fresh if you want to or dehydrate them for future consumption. No need to prepare them or anything they are good to go just raw out of the earth...

LSD is a chemical psychedelic.

My brain and body was designed to consume magic mushrooms.
My brain and body was not designed to consume LSD.

Yes, I technically can consume chemical drugs and have them effect my brain receptors and distort my perception of reality. And I can perceive the chemical drugs as "enjoyable" sure...

But this does not necessarily mean that my brain and body was actually designed by nature to consume chemical drugs, if that makes any kind of sense.

Just my perspective anyway. :shrug:



Yeah, I respect your perspective, and I'm not trying to convince you to change your opinion on it or anything. If you'd rather stay away from LSD and other synthetic drugs, then that's obviously your choice.

I think part of the reason you and I don't come to the same conclusion is that there's a theological angle to your argument (you reference that plants were created by allah, and refer to them as "what god made naturally"). I'm an atheist, so the idea that plants were created or designed by an intelligent being is something I'm skeptical of. Again, not trying to change your position on this or anything, just contrasting my own position with yours. There's also one point where you substitue allah for the planet (e.g. plants were created by the planet). Weren't humans also created by the planet? Weren't the naturally occurring lysergamides that can be used to extract Lysergic acid also created by the planet? Ergot is a mushroom, so I think you'd agree it was created by the planet. Why is it that all of these chemicals can be created by the planet, but when they are combined to create LSD, it's stripped of that status and no longer considered something that was created by the planet? These questions are mostly posed as rhetorical. I'm using them as tools to illuminate my own philosophical belief that the distinction colloquially made between natural and synthetic is an arbitrary one. In my opinion, everything that exists is natural, even synthetic things are still synthesized using naturally available processes. That's why the claim that a drug ought not be consumed solely on the grounds that it's synthetic isn't convincing to me, personally.

I see what you're saying about poisonous plants and mushrooms as well. Point taken.

Finally, I'll just mention something about your point that synthetic psychedelics are "perhaps not the most ideal things a human being should be ingesting". I'll reiterate that the research that we have done on LSD, in particular (don't want to say anything about other synthetic psychs right now), suggests that there is virtually no physiological risk involved with ingesting a dosage commonly used for recreation, and that psychological risks can be greatly mitigated with proper preparation and attention to setting. I agree that there may be consequences we have not yet discovered, and it's good to be skeptical, but there have been almost eighty years of research done on LSD, and based off my own understanding of it, I'll assert that I think LSD is safe to consume.

Again, whatever floats your boat. I'm not trying to tell you that you ought to take LSD. I guess I'm more just defending my own usage of it.


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Re: Which recreational drugs are you addicted to? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26928787 - 09/10/20 06:21 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Seriously_trippin said:
I'm addicted to hydromprphone,Xanax, mirtzapine and pot slot of the recreation there is gone it's now for medical problems. When I was young I had a stomach condition that almost killed me because I couldn't keep food down. When I was 8mthey put me on hundreds of mgs of concerts and Ritalin and It broke my psyche to where I needed Xanax. I got addicted to diluadid at 15 when I got the news that my dad had 5 years to live. I did get clean one time but I've had a serious accident with major injuries since then and I haven't been able to function without it. I hate that it's in my life but I really do think the quality of life I would have without any kind of pain control or muscle relaxant control,panic attack meds,ptsd meds life would be torture without something to help the pain and my psychological well being

Neurologist says that I have occipital neuralgia and muscle tension that compresses on my spine but is not operable so he said I should be back on soma but because of the opioid national emergency there's 2 problems with that. My psychiatrist said the FDA is threatening his liscene if he gives me the proper dose of Xanax I need for my panic attacks,extra muscle tension and PTSD which has given me more pain and really ruined my life to the point where I couldn't finish colleges and barely see friends because of the anxiety and depression but also he said he can't prescribe me Xanax anymore if I get ANY muscle relaxers or opioids. So that on it's own is keeping me from the muscle relaxers the expert said I needed but also since I've had to self medicate with hydromorphone for 12 years, if I got past that I would still have to drug test for pain management and theydnfind the diluadid. I've been in this catch 22 since the national opioid emergency was announced in 2017.




It's this shit right here that is fucking brutal for chronic pain patients! I feel for you. I am in pain management and am seeing this very thing with meds for people that have never gone astray of their scripts. It's sad and sickening how the pharmacies and docs are being threatened by those fucking assholes who basically found a way to cut back on expensive meds supplemented by the state/medicaid/medicare. I also blame the companies that produce the meds and charge outrageous fees for helping people with them. I have seen a med that cost $3.50 a month marked up to 187.00 bucks or more!




I appreciate the understanding, it really is unconscionable to not treat patients that have proven it's an effective medicine for their lives without abusing. It puts you into real addiction and makes you a non functioning member of society. Destroyed my life. If I had meds for everything I needed I may be able to go back to school,date again but it's all been essentially taken away because they scared doctors out of treating patients right. Yeah I spent 3 weeks thinking I had pinworms because I couldn't afford the good medication for it. Turns out they think it's some other parasite after 3 weeks all because I couldn't try the strong stuff once because it was 800$. I'm still awaiting for results on which parasite I have.


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Re: Which recreational drugs are you addicted to? [Re: Patlal]
    #26928807 - 09/10/20 06:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm addicted to alcohol and it's no longer recreational.




Yaaaaa.... me two. Its too easy to get. Its like living with a hard drugs dealer. Any gas station. Any social gathering. Shit is hard because its always around.


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Re: Which recreational drugs are you addicted to? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26928844 - 09/10/20 07:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Fucking parasites! I'm interested in the diagnosis. People with chronic pain are more or less forced into being addicted to opiates/opioids in a way. It's terrible. I am also more careful driving now and am scared of getting into a wreck and getting in a chronic pain position.


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