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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: MadMuncher]
#26927587 - 09/10/20 04:40 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you. Tried to google it, it said a nurse or and some other unrelated items.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: lowbrow] 1
#26927594 - 09/10/20 04:54 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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no worries. have to say ive been pretty surprised at how many people on here have said they have one. im fucking proud of you guys
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: lowbrow] 1
#26927598 - 09/10/20 04:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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If your a gun owner or concealed carry permit holder you really should do yourself a favor and read this.
https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/“preclusion”-legal-concept-you-must-understand
Dang it ythan parsed the url incorrectly. You'll all have to copy and paste it
Especially if you think Rittenhouse is innocent or should get off. In Wisconsin part of his trial will include asking the jury would it have been more reasonable for Kyle to have not went to the protest/riots. The answer is undoubtedly yes. Especially when you couple that with his age, experience, training. Just because he's a lifeguard doesn't qualify him to be a responder, especially with a gun.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: Jailbird420]
#26927603 - 09/10/20 05:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Jailbird420 said: I've not read all the posts here, but those who claim AntiFa and BLM are causing the violence have been misled by Faux News.
Most of the violence has come from right-wing shit-stains trying (and succeeding) to taint the movement.
Riots, white supremacy, and accelerationism
Tuesday, June 2, 2020
Police Knew Far-Right Extremists Were the Real Threat at George Floyd Protests, Not “Antifa”
July 15 2020 “It’s chatter, it’s ‘intelligence reporting suggests,’” he said. On June 2, for example, the Department of Homeland Security circulated a tweet to law enforcement agencies across the country reporting that antifa was stashing bricks to “fuel protests.” reporting on June
Far-Right Infiltrators and Agitators in George Floyd Protests: Indicators of White Supremacists
May 30, 2020
White supremacists pose as Antifa online, call for violence
June 2, 2020
U.S. assessment finds opportunists drive protest violence, not extremists
JUNE 3, 2020 / 5:01 AM / 3 MONTHS AGO
No Sign Of Antifa So Far In Justice Department Cases Brought Over Unrest
June 9, 20203:57 PM ET
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Anything more current? These are months old.
If this were actually happening, left wing media would be all over it, no?
I don't see much on the news about white supremacists these days.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#26927605 - 09/10/20 05:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: MadMuncher]
#26927606 - 09/10/20 05:09 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: koods]
#26927619 - 09/10/20 05:30 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Unfortunately for Kyle roaming the streets after curfew with a gun is a perfect example. If he were defending property then he wouldn’t be roaming the streets. Roaming the streets means he’s looking for trouble. Looking for trouble doesn’t mean he intends to start that trouble, but it does mean that he’s not trying to avoid trouble he may stumble upon.
The group that he was connected with also had a Facebook page where some members overtly expressed their desire to kill anyone looting. That’s not gonna help.
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Especially if you think Rittenhouse is innocent or should get off. In Wisconsin part of his trial will include asking the jury would it have been more reasonable for Kyle to have not went to the protest/riots. The answer is undoubtedly yes
Then they will ask if it would have been more reasonable for Kyle to not have broken the law and taken possession of a firearm.
Then they will ask if it would have been more reasonable for Kyle to not have broken the law and been present on the streets after curfew.
They will show the video of the victim from earlier in the evening getting in Rittenhouse’s face and yelling “why don’t you shoot me.” They will ask wouldn’t it have been more reasonable to leave that area if you are being verbally threatened like that? I mean if someone is acting crazy and getting in your face, any normal person would leave because they felt threatened.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: koods]
#26927700 - 09/10/20 06:43 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: That link Bodhisatta couldn’t figure out how to do
But i wanted the url itself to be th hyperlink
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: bodhisatta]
#26927710 - 09/10/20 06:49 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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: Looks like someone forgot to do the final steps of editing & revising!
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: bodhisatta]
#26927764 - 09/10/20 07:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: koods]
#26927784 - 09/10/20 07:55 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: They will show the video of the victim from earlier in the evening getting in Rittenhouse’s face and yelling “why don’t you shoot me.” They will ask wouldn’t it have been more reasonable to leave that area if you are being verbally threatened like that? I mean if someone is acting crazy and getting in your face, any normal person would leave because they felt threatened.
The shooting happened at another location than the video you are talking about. And Rittenhouse was running away from Rosenbaum immediately before it happened.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: psi]
#26927790 - 09/10/20 07:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why didn’t he keep running?
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: koods]
#26927808 - 09/10/20 08:09 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's not clear to me from the video. It is a good question though.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: psi]
#26927815 - 09/10/20 08:15 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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You have to think about it as if he didn’t have a gun. If he didn’t have a gun, would he have been there? Would have he stopped running when he was being chased. If I was being chased I’d keep running.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: MadMuncher]
#26927817 - 09/10/20 08:17 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The first one is a typo. The second one is making it absolutely clear that Kyle was attacked while on the ground. It’s a run-on sentence, but it’s intentional.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: koods]
#26927830 - 09/10/20 08:28 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: You have to think about it as if he didn’t have a gun. If he didn’t have a gun, would he have been there? Would have he stopped running when he was being chased. If I was being chased I’d keep running.
His claim in his defense statement is that when that other shot rang out from whoever that was, he turned around and Rosenbaum lunged for the rifle. So I don't think even he is claiming that he had no path of escape at that point.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: psi] 1
#26927834 - 09/10/20 08:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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He lunged for the rifle? How is trying to disarm someone an obvious threat of bodily harm or death? Disarming Kyle Rittenhouse would be a legal act since he was in possession of his weapon illegally.
Seriously. How the fuck can you claim self defense because someone is trying to grab the gun you aren’t even legally permitted to be carrying?
Every way you toss this, Kyle is guilty.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: koods] 1
#26927844 - 09/10/20 08:44 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I’ll say it again. If the adult person who gave Kyle the gun doesn’t get prosecuted to the full extent of the law, then our system of justice is completely fucked
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: koods] 1
#26927845 - 09/10/20 08:44 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah the immediacy of the threat in that moment is certainly questionable.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: koods]
#26927960 - 09/10/20 10:08 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: He lunged for the rifle? How is trying to disarm someone an obvious threat of bodily harm or death? Disarming Kyle Rittenhouse would be a legal act since he was in possession of his weapon illegally.
Seriously. How the fuck can you claim self defense because someone is trying to grab the gun you aren’t even legally permitted to be carrying?
Every way you toss this, Kyle is guilty.
LOL, you just love making up laws and statutes, even if he was illegally in possession of the gun he still had a legal right to self defense. Citizen arrest for open carry!!! Why would someone shot me for trying to disarm them!!! 
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Hill and Bragdon, the 2nd District Court of Appeal found in another case that there was at least one section of the Stand Your Ground law that could apply even to felons. The court was considering the case of Aaron Little, who shot another man in a confrontation.
“His status as a felon in illegal possession of a firearm did not preclude that claim of immunity,” the 2nd DCA ruled. “And, as set forth above, Little established by a preponderance of the evidence that his use of force was justified to prevent his imminent death or great bodily harm as provided for in” the law.
The only people with a legal right to disarm him was the police so sorry so sad citizen arrest doesn't apply to this scenario and to even suggest that's what their intent to do with the kid is just laughable. They had no clue if he was a local or if he was in legal possession of the weapon they wanted to mess stuff up and he was in their way, the kid was a life guard who worked in that town that same day was asked by locals to be there had every right to be there unlike your friends who pursued him who's sole reason for being there was to cause mayhem to which they did.
Are you upset your idiot friends stepped up for the room temperature challenge?
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