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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: Buckomcdoogle] 2
#26986460 - 10/15/20 05:17 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Form 4473 of the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) states that anyone attempting to buy a gun from a licensed seller must truthfully answer a series of Yes/No questions, including:
“11.e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?”
A marijuana user could, in theory, answer “No” to question 11.e., but that respondent would be violating federal law by doing so and it is a crime punishable as a felony under Federal law, and may also violate State and/or local law.
Its sad how marijuana is the one drug spelled out on the forms. If you try to buy a gun from a dealer
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: bodhisatta]
#26986463 - 10/15/20 05:19 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Indeed, but it is the law.
Case in point.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: koods]
#26986550 - 10/15/20 07:26 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: team gilmour or team waters?
Which one's Pink?
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
#26986551 - 10/15/20 07:28 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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In my mind rittenhouse has an alot stronger self defense case than the Denver shooting. I'm not 100% on all the facts of the devener one. But in my mind that was also self defense if he had made attempt to walk away. Colorado isn't stand ur ground state dont think. So he had to atleast attempt to retreat. Rittenhouse was being attacked and chased.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] 1
#26986576 - 10/15/20 07:53 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Denver shooting has way more supporting evidence but it still wasn't self defense and the guys also a piece of shit. You don't respond to pepper spray with a bullet (unless your a cop)
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: bodhisatta]
#26986659 - 10/15/20 09:10 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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You could and it would be justified if u had no reasonable means of egress. In my mind ur potentially seconds way from death in such an attack. As other members stated I could have been incapacitated by the spray and the man could have taken his weapon used some other weapon or simple killed him with his bare hands. Going from the slap to the mace show how this attack was escalating in violence quickly.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: Frank Rizzo]
#26986665 - 10/15/20 09:14 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Frank Rizzo said: I'm not a lawyer, just in one of the professions that requires the same to as what lawyer has to go threw.
A lawyer has eight years of college.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#26986668 - 10/15/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Also I believe rittenhouse has alot more supporting evidence for self defense claim but its simply not being shown to the public. If this was any other situation any other time the kid wouldn't have even been indicted. What alot of people don't get with this shit is for one they have no idea how laws especially murder work or trails or any of it and secondly we as the public dont always know the full story for a multitude of very important reasons. Like I said these people would rather have a lynch mob than due process fair trials and rule of law. So stupid and hypocritical. Even if you give them all that they claim the system is broken blah blah blah. Its just infuriating how stupid these people are. I'll be goddamned if I let these idiots send us back to the stone age over this. I mean it hurts my head its so dumb
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: Eminence]
#26986693 - 10/15/20 09:37 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Eminence said: So if someone is doing drugs and gets attacked by some people, they shouldn't be allowed to defend themself with a gun, even an illegal one, because they're already breaking laws? That's what it kinda seems like some people are trying to argue in this thread.
That’s the law dude
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: koods]
#26986701 - 10/15/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thats not exactly the law I mean yah thats the law but there's alot of grey area to that.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#26986746 - 10/15/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Instead of beating up that girl Kyle should have just grabbed her by the pussy then we'd never be in this mess.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: schmutzen]
#26986747 - 10/15/20 10:12 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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He beat up a girl?
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: Brian Jones]
#26986758 - 10/15/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was counting the internship and residency as equivalents...
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: koods]
#26986780 - 10/15/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: There are bad mothers. This doesn’t mean you should assume someone is a bad mother. Do you have a reason to believe that the DA is unprofessional or is that just your bias from being upset that he’s charging Rittenhouse with a crime that is clearly a crime by statute?
Why don’t you tell us what your profession is so we have a better idea what your relevant experience is.
Quote me fully on saying my profession qualified me to have a special insight, I just said that my opinion which I stated as so was as valid as yours, nice try in changing what I said to suit your needs.
Edited by Frank Rizzo (10/15/20 10:27 AM)
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#26986837 - 10/15/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: You could and it would be justified if u had no reasonable means of egress. In my mind ur potentially seconds way from death in such an attack. As other members stated I could have been incapacitated by the spray and the man could have taken his weapon used some other weapon or simple killed him with his bare hands. Going from the slap to the mace show how this attack was escalating in violence quickly.
Something to note, there were other people around, they were not alone. If they had gotten into a scuffle, others may have tried to intervene to break it up. If he had gotte sprayed, by the guy with the pepper sprays reactions to the previous encounter, I would imagine he wouldn't have gone for any weapons. IMO, of course, doesn't matter, so .
Edit.
Guy smacked and stepped back and seems to only spray when space invaders drew his pistol. Time from start of spray to round being fired is very short.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#26986859 - 10/15/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: He beat up a girl?
I hadn't heard about this, but yes...it appears so.
Skip to about 0:43
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: 1234go]
#26986886 - 10/15/20 11:31 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Welp whatever the kids obv some herbert cornballer wanna be cop no surprise he hit a girl in some school yard brawl. Doesn't change what happened with the shooting. These laws are important because this isn't like the one and only time the apply. Its important to protect people that these laws be upheld because anyone could find themselves in some kinda wackball situation where they may infact need to justifiably use self defense and if we start messing too much with these laws its only gonna cause more fucked up situations. Same thing with citizens arrest. Its like hello some people live in rural areas where police response could take dozens of minutes or more on average. U get rid citizens arest or start making people start thinking twice on self defense all kinda messed up shit will happen. What are u gonna do let the guy that raped ur daughter or something just get away waiting for the fucking incompetent police to show up? I mean its like they'll solve the case if they don't catch the guy right there or its not completely obvious. These things are important.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#26986896 - 10/15/20 11:38 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just posted the video, dude.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: koods]
#26987156 - 10/15/20 02:13 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Threads like these devolve quickly into ugliness. We don't know all the evidence and facts surrounding this case. We love to give our concrete opinion on if the gunman was in the right or not just for the hell of it. We need to chill out and just let the justice system do its thing and then let's resume talking.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] 3
#26987166 - 10/15/20 02:19 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Like most everything else in this country it's been heavily politicized by keyboard warriors. The whole situation is fucked up and none of the people should have been where they were in the first place, but it happened anyway. The people that are qualified to handle this case are handling it. The outcome is out of everybody else's hands
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