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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: christopera]
    #26945445 - 09/20/20 02:29 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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It's still over your head.

If an aggressor shows up carrying a gun and kills people, it's hyperbolic to claim self defense. He arrived willing to kill

If a person shows up ready to chase a person with a gun, are they attempting suicide? No, that was hyperbolic. They were likely aggressors too.

But when an aggressor goes against another aggressor on a city street during an unlawful scenario, and one aggressor kills two other aggressors through the use of gun, that doesn't suddenly exempt the killer based on self defense. The scenario has already moved past that point. There's no hyperbole in that statement. If you bring a gun to a gun fight and kill somebody, it is murder.





Yep.  It really is that simple.  Wisconsin has a duty to retreat law.  The killer did the opposite of retreat. 


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #26945474 - 09/20/20 03:11 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You people just love to ignore important details in the story so you can frame it like he was there to kill people and didn't actually try to escape before shooting someone. He killed a couple pedophile communist terrorists, fucking good for him. You can say it wouldn't have happened if he never came, yeah of course, but none of it would've happened if they didn't decide to attack him for putting out fires either. I am so curious how this thread would be going now if he went without the rifle and got attacked and possibly
killed anyway by some child rapist that had a pistol on him that he was pulling out before he got shot too.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: Eminence] * 1
    #26945480 - 09/20/20 03:24 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Hes going down....

In this country, even if you are legally carrying and you use that gun to defend yourself, you are likely getting locked up for a period of time.

I knew of a guy that was getting robbed by a gang of illegals.

They were breaking into his garage.

He confronted them with a gun.

They ended up all getting arrested, it didnt matter that he was in the right.

His gun was confiscated and he ended up spending a few days in jail before he was bailed out.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: schmutzen] * 1
    #26945560 - 09/20/20 06:16 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Business owners have insurance? So I suppose that's justification to burn down someone's life work. Do you know how many years it takes of to build a successful business? If only there existed insurance for time.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 2
    #26945564 - 09/20/20 06:22 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

If you took the time to watch the video he is stumbling and falling backwards as the hoard closes in on him. There's your satisfaction of duty to retreat. When someone is close enough to grab your weapon of defense, what logical choice do you have? Wait for them to take your weapon and kill you or use your weapon for it's intended purpose (self-defense)?


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: budmanman] * 5
    #26945565 - 09/20/20 06:22 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Is this really what our country has come to? We defend a 17 year old that goes out of his way to a different state with an illegal rifle and walks the streets looking for trouble?!

How in the literal fuck has this become what our country stands for? Do you guys really want kids walking the streets with illegal guns looking for trouble?! If you say yes, then fuck you 100%. I don't give one fuck what your justification is. You are wrong and your mindset is a threat to the U.S.A.

Get fucked conservatives. This is a new low. I side with conservatives often but this is making me want to view them as less than human.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: Distorted Vision]
    #26945575 - 09/20/20 06:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

No shit


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: Distorted Vision] * 2
    #26945578 - 09/20/20 06:36 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
Wisconsin has a duty to retreat law.  The killer did the opposite of retreat. 




If you ignore the part where he did exactly that I suppose.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: psi]
    #26945583 - 09/20/20 06:44 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

He should have retreated before he shot the first person.......................


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #26945585 - 09/20/20 06:46 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Here lets make it retard easy..
If people are lighting trash cans on fire in public and you're a 17 year old vigilante. Swallow your fucking wana be cop pride and get the fuck out of there. Vigilantism isn't lawful sorry. Kid is a thug piece of shit just like any other gang member. Fighting shit with shit isn't awesome or heroic


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #26945587 - 09/20/20 06:48 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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He should have retreated before he shot the first person.......................



He did though...


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: psi] * 1
    #26945588 - 09/20/20 06:49 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Like did everyone miss that part of the video? I don't get it.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: psi]
    #26945589 - 09/20/20 06:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You mean when he was running from the guy with the DEADLY PLASTIC BAG?


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: bodhisatta] * 2
    #26945591 - 09/20/20 06:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

He should have not had an illegal rifle in the street in a different state while not even being an adult. It doesn't matter what happened, that's enough to be 1000% wrong morally and legally. He was obviously breaking laws to go and hope for shit to hit the fan. End of story.

It's not even possible to debate this. This is a fact and we all know it so anyone who is letting politics cloud their mind, turn your brain on.

You may be happy that he killed some people you don't like, but it doesn't make him in the right. If you truly think kids should roam the streets with illegal rifles and take law into their own hands, please get the fuck out of the U.S.A.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 1
    #26945593 - 09/20/20 06:59 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I wonder what Rosenbaum meant to do when he caught up with him? Probably gently take the gun and hand it over to the relevant authorities. Certainly not beat him up. And we all know that a beating is perfectly safe to endure anyway. Some sort of weapon is needed in order to do anyone serious harm. A plastic bag might do in a pinch though I guess.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: psi]
    #26945603 - 09/20/20 07:09 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

If someone is being aggressive and says shoot me nigga that's the time to retreat. The fact that he shortly after shoots the guy that said shoot me is all the court will need to hear.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: psi] * 1
    #26945605 - 09/20/20 07:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Ok, so now the rules are: If you have a gun, and someone yells at you, you can kill them, because, yanno, they might try to take your gun away from you and kill you. In fact, if you have a gun, everyone around you is automatically a deadly threat that must be eliminated.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #26945614 - 09/20/20 07:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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If someone is being aggressive and says shoot me nigga that's the time to retreat..




I see you have no clue about the sequence of events. The "shoot me nigga" video did not take place immediately before the shooting. What did take place immediately before the shooting was Rosenbaum chasing Rittenhouse and Rittenhouse running away from him (i.e. retreating).


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: psi]
    #26945617 - 09/20/20 07:18 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

:huxleyfacepalm:
Wouldn't have had the running part if he left when he should have.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26945618 - 09/20/20 07:20 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Your earlier position was that he didn't retreat before he shot the first person (Rosenbaum). But in fact he did.


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