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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: budmanman]
    #26929170 - 09/10/20 10:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

lol okay.

Keep on masturbating, meanwhile Kyle got caught up in that fantasy and is likely going to jail for it.

As for the butt hurt, stop projecting. I’ve never advocated for rioting and I certainly don’t condone killing each other for the sake of proving a point, as is evident in all of my previous posts.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: budmanman]
    #26929183 - 09/10/20 10:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Kyle would be one of those fantasy's that people tell stories about.

Mobs of people were burning down tons of businesses and mom and pop shops,

A boy named Kyle was on scene to protect property and life with his med kit of which he used to aid protesters who were pepper sprayed and shot with rubber bullets.

Eventually a convicted pedophile who also had a long violent criminal history attacked him Kyle tried to flee but some thug shot a gun into the air making him turn, the convicted pedophile then tries to get his gun and kyle shoots him,

Kyle runs because the mob is re rallying up for another go at him, as he is running he is assaulted him the back of the head by a fist and falls to the ground, as he tries to get up someone kicks him in the face, another person wacks him over the head with a skateboard, this person is also a serial assaulter which can be observed on his long criminal history, after wacking with the skateboard he tries to take kyles gun, the same mistake the first person made, and gets shot in the belly and out came jelly.

Then another guy, who is a convicted burglar and serial assaulter, comes at kyle, with his illegally possess handgun based on his felony convictions, the guy false surrenders and puts his hands up, kyle lowers his weapon but then the guy draws his gun and moves towards kyle so kyle blasts his arm apart disabling his hand so that he can not shoot kyle.

Kyle gets up and calmly walks away now that the threat is no longer present.

A crowd of people in mass, is burning down and destroying a city.

Someone came to protect life and property but was attacked and defended himself against attackers.

Literally exactly what a fantasy story would be, but its what actually happened,

And you're butt hurt because your terrorist buddies got blasted.




Your logic boils down to inanimate objects are more important than human lives.

Solid spot to be in.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: christopera] * 1
    #26929361 - 09/11/20 04:48 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The law is pretty clear. Wisconsin also has no stand your ground law. Wisconsin has castle doctrine but that doesn't apply on the city streets.

If you think you need a gun in a situation your first choice should be leaving the situation. He not only didn't do that but went into a situation that was precarious and brought a gun with him. It's unbelievable how many supposed law and order + 2A people gloss right over the law and order part of what it takes to have 2A. Kyle is in the same boat as any gang member. Unintelligent law breaking unpatriotic thug.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26929431 - 09/11/20 06:30 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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The law is pretty clear. Wisconsin also has no stand your ground law. Wisconsin has castle doctrine but that doesn't apply on the city streets.

If you think you need a gun in a situation your first choice should be leaving the situation. He not only didn't do that but went into a situation that was precarious and brought a gun with him. It's unbelievable how many supposed law and order + 2A people gloss right over the law and order part of what it takes to have 2A. Kyle is in the same boat as any gang member. Unintelligent law breaking unpatriotic thug.




That wasn’t stand your ground, that was straight up self defense.

Your boys might get him on illegal possesion of a rifle, but I don’t see anything else happening.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: lowbrow]
    #26929463 - 09/11/20 07:00 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Kyle tries to run, not stand his ground, someone shoots first behind Kyle, Kyle stops to turn around to see who shot, Kyle is then attacked. Kyle then defends himself. I couldn't be more cut and dry clear as day self defense.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: lowbrow] * 1
    #26929528 - 09/11/20 08:22 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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The law is pretty clear. Wisconsin also has no stand your ground law. Wisconsin has castle doctrine but that doesn't apply on the city streets.

If you think you need a gun in a situation your first choice should be leaving the situation. He not only didn't do that but went into a situation that was precarious and brought a gun with him. It's unbelievable how many supposed law and order + 2A people gloss right over the law and order part of what it takes to have 2A. Kyle is in the same boat as any gang member. Unintelligent law breaking unpatriotic thug.




That wasn’t stand your ground, that was straight up self defense.

Your boys might get him on illegal possesion of a rifle, but I don’t see anything else happening.



It's not self defense if you didn't exhaust your options to evade the situation. As soon as people started rioting that means it's time to go home especially if you have a weapon on you.

If Wisconsin had a stand your ground law he might have a sprinkle of hope to it being lawfully judged as self defense but in Wisconsin he absolutely didn't do self defense. He did murder, he could have easily evaded the situation all together

Anyone who says its clear cut based on video alone is absolutely clueless.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: koods] * 1
    #26929537 - 09/11/20 08:30 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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They had no clue if he was a local or if he was in legal possession of the weapon




You don’t know that




So you want me to believe that somehow in the middle of their peaceful protest pedo guy called up some buddies on 4chan identified him then found his birth certificate who sent back pedo guy a text msg with the ok to perform a citizens arrest?

Are you letting your kids come up with these arguments, is your dog going to eat it next?

To think that you can see someone and assume because that's all you can do is assume that they are a minor and in illegal possession of a weapon so you can perform a citizens arrest is just stupid call the police. However, Somehow you have it in your mind to take a gun away from someone who you think is going to use it to cause great bodily harm to others minus you...Oh I digress...Please by all means practice what you preach I'm sure your huckleberry is out there.

How about this, can you source a citizens arrest in the context that you are proposing I'll gladly eat my words?


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #26929817 - 09/11/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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bodhisatta said:t's not self defense if you didn't exhaust your options to evade the situation. As soon as people started rioting that means it's time to go home especially if you have a weapon on you.

If Wisconsin had a stand your ground law he might have a sprinkle of hope to it being lawfully judged as self defense but in Wisconsin he absolutely didn't do self defense. He did murder, he could have easily evaded the situation all together

Anyone who says its clear cut based on video alone is absolutely clueless.





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939.48  Self-defense and defense of others.
(1)  A person is privileged to threaten or intentionally use force against another for the purpose of preventing or terminating what the person reasonably believes to be an unlawful interference with his or her person by such other person. The actor may intentionally use only such force or threat thereof as the actor reasonably believes is necessary to prevent or terminate the interference. The actor may not intentionally use force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm unless the actor reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself.
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/939/iii/48




So let me get this straight as soon as the rioting started all law abiding citizens were to retreat to their domiciles and rioters have cart blanche to do as they please when rioting commences so don't dare defend yourself because you are violating cure-few hence all inalienable rights are lost unless you are a rioter?

Can you source this, was this in the charges or is this just an opinion as I'm clueless to finding documentation to come to such an obvious conclusion?

FYI, The kid was being chased by multiple people not just pedo guy also the unknown players firing shots in the air it's obvious the kid felt cornered to imply he could have just walked home after they gave chase is intellectually disingenuous to request him to play Patty Cake with the pedo.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: Frank Rizzo]
    #26929829 - 09/11/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yea dude. Actually become a cop if you want to protect property with weapons. Otherwise get the fuck out. Or make a wall with shields.

Look man. I'm working my way to being a concealed carry instructor. You would never tell someone to do what Kyle did. It's not self defense.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26929841 - 09/11/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Just a red blooded American, people like me don't call the cops let alone join them because they will more than likely shoot us and ask questions later. 

Everyone likes to pretend that there isn't a pecking order in life well I know the truth my kind is dead last learned that a long time ago nobody to save me I have to claw my way in the life for everything.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: Frank Rizzo]
    #26929944 - 09/11/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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They had no clue if he was a local or if he was in legal possession of the weapon




You don’t know that




So you want me to believe that somehow in the middle of their peaceful protest pedo guy called up some buddies on 4chan identified him then found his birth certificate who sent back pedo guy a text msg with the ok to perform a citizens arrest?

Are you letting your kids come up with these arguments, is your dog going to eat it next?

To think that you can see someone and assume because that's all you can do is assume that they are a minor and in illegal possession of a weapon so you can perform a citizens arrest is just stupid call the police. However, Somehow you have it in your mind to take a gun away from someone who you think is going to use it to cause great bodily harm to others minus you...Oh I digress...Please by all means practice what you preach I'm sure your huckleberry is out there.

How about this, can you source a citizens arrest in the context that you are proposing I'll gladly eat my words?




The first thing I thought when I saw his picture was “how old is he?” You don’t think people might have been asking him that question?


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: koods] * 3
    #26929996 - 09/11/20 01:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I think it is fair to say that Rosenbaum realized Rittenhouse was a minor when chasing him down. But Rosenbaum was convicted of a sex offense involving a minor, and was acting like an out of control belligerent asshole in the earlier video. It just doesn't pass the smell test that Rosenbaum's plan was to hand the weapon over to the relevant authorities. And I find it very plausible that Rosenbaum meant not to just take the rifle but do Rittenhouse harm when he chased him down. Rosenbaum, realizing Rittenhouse was obviously underage, should have realized it was completely inappropriate for him to try to chase him down.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: koods] * 2
    #26930003 - 09/11/20 01:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)


If he had no gun there would not bof been an issue of lives in danger. The fact he was walking  around with a rifle or posting up with it puts himself as a target. Insurance can cover  property damage especially for business. Violence isn't the answer, neither is destroying property but it's not that kids place to do that. It just adds to the problem and perpetuates the violence and just throwing gas on the already raging fire.
I bet it would have of been more effective if he stood by the shop with a sign saying g please dont ruin my business.  Most people would probably  just walk by. The fact hes there with a gun is in itself a threat especially with the already intense turmoil happening.
There are people who want to cause shit on both sides. Why make it worse by putting oneself in a vulnerable position like that.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #26930209 - 09/11/20 03:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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HamHead said:For defending himself against a mob.





HamHead, the kid is 17 and shouldn't have been there in the first place with a gun.
The premise of the case is 100% illegal for the kid.    You can't justify his actions any other way.
The kid ruined his life and deserves many felonies for his stupid behavior.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: budmanman]
    #26930288 - 09/11/20 04:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Kyle tries to run, not stand his ground, someone shoots first behind Kyle, Kyle stops to turn around to see who shot, Kyle is then attacked. Kyle then defends himself. I couldn't be more cut and dry clear as day self defense.



After he shot someone in the head and became an active shooter


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 1
    #26930699 - 09/11/20 08:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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budmanman said:
Kyle tries to run, not stand his ground, someone shoots first behind Kyle, Kyle stops to turn around to see who shot, Kyle is then attacked. Kyle then defends himself. I couldn't be more cut and dry clear as day self defense.



After he shot someone in the head and became an active shooter




No dude that is literally what happened with the first guy he shot lmao


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26930706 - 09/11/20 08:18 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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It's not self defense if you didn't exhaust your options to evade the situation.


. He did that.  He ran out of the situation every chance he had. 

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bodhisatta said:

As soon as people started rioting that means it's time to go home especially if you have a weapon on you.


not if you’re there as a line of defense.

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If Wisconsin had a stand your ground law he might have a sprinkle of hope to it being lawfully judged as self defense but in Wisconsin he absolutely didn't do self defense.


Well, Ive already explained why you’re mistaken several times.

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He did murder,


It's not murder to shoot somebody attacking you, that’s called self defense.

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he could have easily evaded the situation all together


Im noticing you seem to be on the side of the rioters.  You seem to be giving them a free ride.  He did attempt to evade the situation.  This has already been stated.  This is on video.

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Anyone who says its clear cut based on video alone is absolutely clueless.


But that’s evidence.  The videos were made by the rioters, and the preponderance of evidence points to self defense.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: budmanman]
    #26930709 - 09/11/20 08:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Kyle tries to run, not stand his ground, someone shoots first behind Kyle, Kyle stops to turn around to see who shot, Kyle is then attacked. Kyle then defends himself. I couldn't be more cut and dry clear as day self defense.



After he shot someone in the head and became an active shooter




No dude that is literally what happened with the first guy he shot lmao




Ya, the child molester.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: lowbrow] * 1
    #26930719 - 09/11/20 08:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Given that this dude was not in possession of the gun legally, wouldn't it be like if you didn't have a driver's license and got in a car accident. Regardless of who's fault it is, you shouldn't have been driving in the first place, so it's your fault?


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse's official initial defense statement. [Re: brk]
    #26930738 - 09/11/20 08:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Given that this dude was not in possession of the gun legally, wouldn't it be like if you didn't have a driver's license and got in a car accident. Regardless of who's fault it is, you shouldn't have been driving in the first place, so it's your fault?



Nope.  It’s not the first time this situation has happened.


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