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SelfAwareComputer
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Is 4 aco dmt legal to buy online?
#26920194 - 09/05/20 09:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was reading a mushrooms vs 4acodmt article on Psychedelicreview.com. they mentioned that 4acodmt is sold online. I thought 4acodmt was illegal. Like 5meodmt. Everything is illegal under the federal analogue act. So how can it be sold legally?
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Re: Is 4 aco dmt legal to buy online? Theindoleshop.com $117 per gram [Re: SelfAwareComputer]
#26920231 - 09/05/20 10:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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it is for research only, not for consumption. Perfectly legal to purchase.
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Re: Is 4 aco dmt legal to buy online? Theindoleshop.com $117 per gram [Re: Debacle]
#26920672 - 09/06/20 08:27 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's technically unscheduled. It "could" be considered illegal under the federal analog act, but as for as the actual compound goes, it's unscheduled, which is surprising. Still for research purposes though, not labeled for Human consumption.
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NO SOURCING PLEASE CLEAN THIS UP
Discussion of in vivo use of this substance along with source posting constitutes intention under the analogue law.
Sellers have been busted in the past. You most certainly can get arrested for research chemicals if packaged for consumption. Further many of them will pop in field tests or urine analysis. Sure maybe you will get it dropped after a real lab determines what it is and you pay $$ to a lawyer but lots of damage will be done already at that point.
The only real advantage is that customs tends to seize and destroy RCs and send a love letter* whereas illicit substances in large enough quantity will result in controlled delivery and arrest.
All that said it is a great substance which i enjoy and find less nausea inducing compared to shrooms.
*love letters may show up in background checks for things like tsa clear or federal jobs
Edited by Sugabearcrisp (09/07/20 07:42 PM)
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Re: Is 4 aco dmt legal to buy online? Theindoleshop.com $117 per gram [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
#26920752 - 09/06/20 09:11 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks guys, I have used 4aco for a while but never knew it was still sold legally, even if just for research. I'm surprised, it seems everything worth doing is illegal lol.
You said some rcs show up in drug tests. I know this question has been asked so many times but I'd like an update. Anyone ever heard of mushrooms, 2CB, 4acodmt or lsd showing up on a drug test? I know none of that is even on the 12 panel extended test. Just wondering if anything has changed with the government quietly adding them on. Their sneaky shifty bastards.
From what I've heard it's rare for them to test for it. But if they do LSD it's only detectable for day or two and mushrooms maybe three or four days? Based on erowid
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Re: Is 4 aco dmt legal to buy online? Theindoleshop.com $117 per gram [Re: SelfAwareComputer]
#26920867 - 09/06/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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It all depends on where you live. Here in germany for example 4-aco-dmt is now illegal, as well as all other 4-subbed tryptamines. In the netherlands, 150 kilometers away from my hometown, most of them are still legal to buy.
In the US it's still legal to buy afaik.
No, common drugtests don't test for tryptamines. They can be detected via expensive blood test, though. But urine quicktests won't detect psilocin, 4-aco-dmt nor lsd (as well as all it's also legal analogs).
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Was speaking more to the rc benzos, speed and op8s in terms of urine analysis. In terms of field substance testing i would expect any pysch may pop
P.s. you can still get it even domestically i just wouldnt call it legal
Edited by Sugabearcrisp (09/07/20 07:42 PM)
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Re: Is 4 aco dmt legal to buy online? Theindoleshop.com $117 per gram [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
#26921582 - 09/06/20 05:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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It’s not legal in all the states. Check your local law..
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Re: Is 4 aco dmt legal to [Re: Amanita86]
#26921845 - 09/06/20 07:37 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: It’s not legal in all the states. Check your local law..
good point it is explicitely illegal in some states. Following states are no go NC, FL, IN, OH. AK no dck. Maybe a few more so for sure check. You may consider virtual mail boxes that do reshipping for retirees to resend.
Edited by Sugabearcrisp (09/07/20 07:41 PM)
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Re: Is 4 aco dmt legal to buy online? Theindoleshop.com $117 per gram [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
#26921927 - 09/06/20 08:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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if you are in FL, dont even order it, itll never arrive.
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Re: Is 4 aco dmt legal to buy online? Theindoleshop.com $117 per gram [Re: FranxLove]
#26922394 - 09/07/20 04:29 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wait, there's legal DMT? Is this variant an RC or safe like "real" DMT?
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Re: Is 4 aco dmt legal to buy online? [Re: Korean Jesus]
#26922469 - 09/07/20 06:16 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Korean Jesus said: Wait, there's legal DMT? Is this variant an RC or safe like "real" DMT?
4-ACO-DMT is a 4 subed tryptamine that is most similar to the active tryptamines in muchrooms 4-PO-DMT and 4-HO-DMT, which you will note contains the same core tryptamine structure.
DPT is an unscheduled tryptamine that can be smoked like DMT although the effects are significantly different according to those who have tried both
Lots of info here if you search
Edited by Sugabearcrisp (09/07/20 07:43 PM)
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Re: Is 4 aco dmt legal to buy online? Theindoleshop.com $117 per gram [Re: Korean Jesus]
#26923016 - 09/07/20 12:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Korean Jesus said: Wait, there's legal DMT? Is this variant an RC or safe like "real" DMT?
4-ACO-DMT turns into Psilocin in the body. So it should be about as safe as Psilocin/mushrooms. Some people have a hard time noticing the Psilocin from 4-ACO-DMT, but if you mix it with MAO-A inhibition for example, like using Harmalas/Syrian Rue/Caapi, or Moclobemide, you will definitely feel the Psilocin, guaranteed.
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Re: [Re: drr]
#26923856 - 09/07/20 09:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You make valid points...
Fine print = they don’t ship to the USA.
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