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Quick help needed with monotub
    #26921942 - 09/06/20 08:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

My first grow and has been going well so far (I think) This is a monotub (bulk substrate composted manure/straw, verm, coir, gypsum) spawned 1:5. It has been incubating for 9 days and has made incredible progress over the past 3 days. I just wish to know, what stage is this tub at and what is the significance of all this fluffy mycelium. Is everything looking ok? Thank you in advance for help.





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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: mescalinechemist]
    #26922050 - 09/06/20 09:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You do have FAE happening correct? If those holes are still closed you should move the tub into fruiting.


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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: BBH224]
    #26922060 - 09/06/20 09:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

All the holes are open now. Do you think this tub is ready for a casing? Do you know what those fuzzy mycelium signify?


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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: mescalinechemist]
    #26922072 - 09/06/20 09:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Open before the taking of this picture or after? I am not 100% sure, I imagine a trusted cultivator will be in here shortly, but my guess is hyphal knots in a cluster / the tub needing FAE. I do not think it is bacterial.


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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: BBH224]
    #26922078 - 09/06/20 09:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Right after taking this photo. All holes were opened and a layer of micropore tape put over them. A fan is in the room running most of the time.


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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: mescalinechemist]
    #26922086 - 09/06/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

What tub tek is this.. the specific tub you have created there?


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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: BBH224]
    #26922097 - 09/06/20 09:54 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

This is pasturized coir/verm/composted manure spawned at a 1:5 ratio with colonized wheat grains with mazatapec. I don't know the specific tek, I sort of read the Mushroom Cultivator and bits and pieces from shroomery.


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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: BBH224]
    #26922100 - 09/06/20 09:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: mescalinechemist]
    #26922137 - 09/06/20 10:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I am at a similar time frame as you. I have three tubs all spawned within days of each other. 1 GT and 2 B+. GT was first to spawn on 8/24.

GT after 8 to 10 days colonizing:


B+ after 8 to 9 days:


Tub set up:


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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: BBH224]
    #26922142 - 09/06/20 10:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Very nice!


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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: mescalinechemist]
    #26922156 - 09/06/20 10:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Well hopefully the thread was bumped enough that you'll get an exact trusted answer.  Good luck!


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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: mescalinechemist]
    #26922166 - 09/06/20 10:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Looks like it's about to get the green-meanie. Sorry man. Next time try coir verm, or straight coir even. Of course h-poo is workable but it is much less forgiving. Also maybe up your spawn ratio, but regardless of ratio it has to be clean to start. :goodluck:


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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26922171 - 09/06/20 10:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not sure it's contamination, my photo isn't good I know but all the hairs are continuous with the mycelium below.


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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26922180 - 09/06/20 10:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

This is a good view, it shows the mycelial roots projecting into many very fine hairs upwards, giving this fluffy appearance. There is no slime or no trich present in this tub. They are just such fine hairs and moist that with my bad camera they appear like slime. I can assure they are not.



Here is another tub:


Edited by mescalinechemist (09/06/20 10:59 PM)


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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: mescalinechemist]
    #26922184 - 09/06/20 11:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Glad to hear it.


Edited by Funky Monkey (09/06/20 11:13 PM)


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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: mescalinechemist]
    #26922186 - 09/06/20 11:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The best I could describe would be like a head of cauliflower with very very fine tips.

It wouldn't be an error to case and set to fruiting now?


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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: mescalinechemist]
    #26922205 - 09/06/20 11:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I looked again, I was talking about in the middle of the first picture. The fluffy stuff in the middle where at one spot it even has a light forest green edge creeping in. Could be me, could be my monitor, could be the spirit-blood of the copious amounts of dead babies sacrificed on my altar to the mighty she-man-God attempting to cloud my internal eye of the warrior from the other side of the veil...

But if you say it's all good, I'm happy to take your word for it. :cheers:


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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26922209 - 09/06/20 11:18 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I gave it another look over (always good to check :wink: ) but everything is pearly white. I did discover something though, the medical tape I am using is waaay less breathable than micropore tape I was using for my grain spawn, going to the store to buy some nexcare tape. You recon these are ready for casing? I know cubensis don't 'need' a case, but I am trying to learn as many skills and maximize my grow. Thank you for everything!


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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: mescalinechemist]
    #26922246 - 09/06/20 11:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Geeze. First of all, the sacrificing babies comment gave me the willies. I hate that shit. Secondly, Holy fuck knuckles. I've never had a tub do that so intensely. My guess is that you're experiencing a combination of bacterial spawn and low FAE. You could absolutely case that now but there's no guarantee that it'll maximize anything. Definitely start giving her more air though.


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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26922262 - 09/07/20 12:19 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I think it is lack of FAE, I was using the wrong type of tape it was barely breathable. I have rectified that issue now and am freshening the air up nicely.


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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: mescalinechemist]
    #26922266 - 09/07/20 12:25 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

agreed. things don't generally reach out like that unless they are suffocating or running from something. I think you may be experiencing both. Good move on upping the fae just don't let her dry out now.


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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26922278 - 09/07/20 12:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

verum subsequentis said:
Geeze. First of all, the sacrificing babies comment gave me the willies. I hate that shit. Secondly, Holy fuck knuckles. I've never had a tub do that so intensely. My guess is that you're experiencing a combination of bacterial spawn and low FAE. You could absolutely case that now but there's no guarantee that it'll maximize anything. Definitely start giving her more air though.





First of all, sorry :laugh2:

I have an excuse though: You see, the blood moon is in half retrograde, and the mystical slippery salamander slithered through the sizzling skillet of zesty innards bubbling in my sorcerer's stew. SO as you see my friend, the time was ripe to come out as full whacko and salute the prim-rose monkey-devil beguiling us all. BAD MONKEY!

Or it could just be late and I'm hysterically typing things... Not sure which one it is. :shrug:

Secondly, I agree. Bacterial super spawn with a hint of something to be determined at a later date, or perhaps nothing at all if OP brings me three suckling pigs and a chubby cherub for the chopping block all while chanting: The Monkey made me do it, THE MONKEY MADE ME DO IT, THE MONKEY MADE ME DO IT!



Edit: *Ominous voice speaks to you from the depths of your own mind*

"...Your tubs still yet may be saved my Son... Come to Me. YIELD to Me.... In the blood of the innocent we will find what you seek."






BTW, Mr. Rogers is my idol.
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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26922316 - 09/07/20 02:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It's all good and appreciate the humor. I just have a interesting history with folks who practice what you joke about. It's very personal to me. Most don't realize that this shit actually goes down.


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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26922414 - 09/07/20 04:48 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The tub was cased in a verm/peat/coir casing. I'll keep you updated how it goes. All airholes have been opened and tape replaced with 1 layer of breathable micropore tape. A fan is running in the room.


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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: mescalinechemist]
    #26922666 - 09/07/20 08:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You'd be better served to either go no casing for cubes (with the exception of PE) as they don't need it anyways, or to go with either a true jiffy style casing or a simple coir top layer. Peat verm and coir are meant to do different things and function a bit differently and have different nutrient profiles so in a way one thing is at odds with the other and mixing them together won't provide much if any benefit in terms of effort to yield.


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Re: Quick help needed with monotub [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26923587 - 09/07/20 06:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'll do the other tubs with a 50/50 + casing. Thank you all for the advice. Giving them plenty of air but making sure they are moist.


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