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Confession: I cheat at card games
#26921727 - 09/06/20 06:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I roll with a crew of 5 people, we switch out on the reg, and we cheat at private poker clubs. 2 of my compatriots are so goods leger-de-main with cards, they could go on that show with Penn and Teller and fool em, the rest of us an extremely elaborate set-up to collude while playing together. Now most of the other people are also using what tricks they have, including collusion, but usually keep it in bounds to being gabby and looking for tells that way, or being silent and looking for tells, as well as varying their play stiles from aggressive, to passive according to predetermined events (thus making it random to other player). AM I a bad person for this behavior, or is it survival of the fittest. I should note this comes with serious risks to me and my partners, which for me is what makes it fun, knowing if I get caught an ass whooping is probability the least of my worries as the traditional treatment of cheaters of my particular vain is to smash their right hand with hammer. This was brought up in another thread, and thought I would just make whole thread about it. Also when covid goes away, how about a NE gathering of shroomers for poker?
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: Ice9]
#26921734 - 09/06/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I’ve cheated once or twice when playing EDH.

Poker sucks though, play a card game that takes skill and thinking.
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: SARAtonin]
#26921741 - 09/06/20 06:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I cheat at couples Pinochle all the time... I mean in that game if you ain't cheating you ain't trying.
Also EDH?
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: Ice9] 1
#26921744 - 09/06/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Elder Dragon Highlander.
100 card singleton multiplayer eternal format Magic the Gathering.
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: SARAtonin]
#26921751 - 09/06/20 06:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Way to do it then! Trick shuffle, ole cards in sleeve or other innocuous space to swap out so you don't get mana fucked.
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: Ice9]
#26921766 - 09/06/20 06:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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And you help make vaccine adjuvants?
Seems legit, and trustworthy.
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: HamHead]
#26921777 - 09/06/20 07:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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People can have many sides to their personality, I doubt you would understand, being as challenged as you are. Also, it would be impossible to manipulate numbers given the safe guards in place at my work. You can thank you're tax dollars and the FDA for that.
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: Ice9]
#26921781 - 09/06/20 07:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I dont most of what you are talking about in the OP, but if two of your Poker friends can fool Penn and Teller on their TV show, that would the most epic! :eek!
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26921784 - 09/06/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: I dont most of what you are talking about in the OP, but if two of your Poker friends can fool Penn and Teller on their TV show, that would the most epic! :eek!
A lot of these private clubs let players deal, switching off each hand, thus they pay people who are experts on trick shuffles and bottom dealing and what not, and over 10 years we have never even been suspected.
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: Ice9]
#26921809 - 09/06/20 07:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Watch rounders and see what happens to card cheats..
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: Ice9] 1
#26921813 - 09/06/20 07:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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i've got a confession to make too yall i'm madly in love with yall 4 real yo shout out to boomer da great welcome back big dawg!!!
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: Crazy_Horse]
#26921828 - 09/06/20 07:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Crazy_Horse said: Watch rounders and see what happens to card cheats..
I seen it, and it's true, especially fang run/mafia run card houses.
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: zZZz]
#26921832 - 09/06/20 07:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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zZZz said: i've got a confession to make too yall i'm madly in love with yall 4 real yo shout out to boomer da great welcome back big dawg!!!
I got big zZZz protection, I fear not the dark of night
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: Ice9] 2
#26921835 - 09/06/20 07:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ice9 said: and over 10 years we have never even been suspected.
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Ice9 said: He probably practice for 2000 hours to deal off the top of the deck to the other players and the bottom of the deck to me, which requires really skill not to get caught cause these private games are always on the lookout for pairs like us. We've been suspected and had to not only lose our original buy ins,but our winnings, and further lose more buy ins cause we "would win it all back" And I'm not talking a couple hundred bucks but usually in the thousands.
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: 1234go]
#26921839 - 09/06/20 07:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ice9 said: and over 10 years we have never even been suspected.
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Ice9 said: He probably practice for 2000 hours to deal off the top of the deck to the other players and the bottom of the deck to me, which requires really skill not to get caught cause these private games are always on the lookout for pairs like us. We've been suspected and had to not only lose our original buy ins,but our winnings, and further lose more buy ins cause we "would win it all back" And I'm not talking a couple hundred bucks but usually in the thousands.
I was hoping you bring that up. That's early days, over 10 years ago, with a slightly different crew. One guy fucked up, we got the sign to lose all our money, and we did and walked out hale and healthy.
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: Ice9] 3
#26921868 - 09/06/20 07:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I guess I'll just have to take a liar's word for it.
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: Ice9]
#26921870 - 09/06/20 07:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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in•teg•ri•ty ĭn-tĕg′rĭ-tē► n. Steadfast adherence to a strict moral or ethical code. n. The state of being unimpaired; soundness. n. The quality or condition of being whole or undivided; completeness.

What's all that shit?
Somebody call Forbes.
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: 1234go]
#26921874 - 09/06/20 07:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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1234go said: I guess I'll just have to take a liar's word for it.
You got a lot of posts, you sure they all add up seamlessly?
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: HamHead]
#26921878 - 09/06/20 07:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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HamHead said: in•teg•ri•ty ĭn-tĕg′rĭ-tē► n. Steadfast adherence to a strict moral or ethical code. n. The state of being unimpaired; soundness. n. The quality or condition of being whole or undivided; completeness.

What's all that shit?
Somebody call Forbes.
I cheat people out of sometimes thousands of dollars, and your quoting a Merriam-Webster definition of Integrity me
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: Ice9]
#26921919 - 09/06/20 08:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ice9 said:
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HamHead said: in•teg•ri•ty
I cheat people out of sometimes thousands of dollars, and your quoting a Merriam-Webster definition of Integrity me 

Um, good job?
Edited by HamHead (09/06/20 08:16 PM)
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: 1234go] 2
#26921951 - 09/06/20 08:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ice9 said: and over 10 years we have never even been suspected.
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Ice9 said: He probably practice for 2000 hours to deal off the top of the deck to the other players and the bottom of the deck to me, which requires really skill not to get caught cause these private games are always on the lookout for pairs like us. We've been suspected and had to not only lose our original buy ins,but our winnings, and further lose more buy ins cause we "would win it all back" And I'm not talking a couple hundred bucks but usually in the thousands.
Fuckin sherlock Holmes up in this bitch lol
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: Ice9]
#26921954 - 09/06/20 08:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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lol, pretending they let you deal in private card games.
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: spirit_shadow]
#26921958 - 09/06/20 08:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Have you ever heard of cultural relativism. My only point of bringing this up is don't measure my wheat with your bushel.
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: blewmeanie]
#26921969 - 09/06/20 08:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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blewmeanie said: lol, pretending they let you deal in private card games.

Depends, is it a private club or a house game, who watchers over it, many of these clubs of have teams that play just as dirty as i do, but would receive no patronage if that didn't share deals. Bless my heart though, someone who thinks they know what these games are like. They play games with rules you've never heard of, as it's dealers choice, as long as it's fair to everyone its acceptable. Queens, baseball, big L etc.
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: Ice9]
#26921971 - 09/06/20 08:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ice9 said: Have you ever heard of cultural relativism. My only point of bringing this up is don't measure my wheat with your bushel.
Don't brag when you cheat to win.
It's not a good look for you, especially being a chemist.
But, that's my opinion.
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: HamHead]
#26921973 - 09/06/20 08:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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HamHead said:
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Ice9 said: Have you ever heard of cultural relativism. My only point of bringing this up is don't measure my wheat with your bushel.
Don't brag when you cheat to win.
It's not a good look for you, especially being a chemist.
But, that's my opinion.
That's not a brag, it's a statement that my perception of things is fundamentally different from yours, this is a truism and not disputable.
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: Ice9]
#26921976 - 09/06/20 08:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ice9 said:
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HamHead said: in•teg•ri•ty Somebody call Forbes.
I cheat people out of sometimes thousands of dollars, and your quoting a Merriam-Webster definition of Integrity me 
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Ice9 said:
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HamHead said:
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Ice9 said: Have you ever heard of cultural relativism. My only point of bringing this up is don't measure my wheat with your bushel.
Don't brag when you cheat to win.
It's not a good look for you, especially being a chemist.
But, that's my opinion.
That's not a brag, it's a statement that my perception of things is fundamentally different from yours, this is a truism and not disputable.
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: HamHead]
#26922322 - 09/07/20 02:33 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is dope I’ve been waiting for a underground poker story you should tell more. Im sure you guys suck at colluding though, aside from the deck handling. How much money in these games?
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: Led Zeppelin]
#26922423 - 09/07/20 04:57 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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From an ethical POV I have zero issues with it
I do think you will eventually mess with the wrong people and suffer severe consequences
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Re: Confession: I cheat at card games [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26922529 - 09/07/20 07:15 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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People don't get their hands smashed anymore. You just get banned and your pictures go into casino facial recognition. This is how potowatomi handles it.
If you're doing small time clubs your pots ain't big enough to make a thread about
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