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people taking 4g everyday for months
    #26921714 - 09/06/20 06:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I heard a couple people say they've been on mushrooms for months at a time every single days. Is that making you smarter? I have a feeling someone smart told them to take good doses of mushrooms everyday for a longterm to have an effect on brain growth or something of the kind. Could that be something?

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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: chemically changed]
    #26922532 - 09/07/20 07:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

There is such a thing as too much of a good thing. First of all, when you take mushrooms everyday you need to double the previous dose just to reach threshold effects. Taking such a large dose on a daily basis would probably lower it's effectiveness to that of even less than a standard micro dose regimen of every 4th day using 0.1-0.5 grams.

Id expect to see diminishing returns very quickly, while those who space it out with lower doses probably receive greater benefits over a long period of time.


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: daemora]
    #26922545 - 09/07/20 07:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Taking 4g every day might lead to almost no effects after two weeks or so. From then on it will only feel like a slightly above threshold dose, every day.

You can take a microdose (or a very low dose like <0.5g) every day to get exactly the same results. :smirk:
Saves shrooms, time, and money. Eating 4g daily to make them feel like 0.3g is 3.7g of shrooms wasted, every day. :rolleyes:

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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: chemically changed]
    #26922563 - 09/07/20 07:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yes and no. 

IME there's a maximum level for tolerance that's reached in about a week (figuring 5 days in a week with weekends off, I've done this quite a few times, sometimes for several months). 

It takes 50% more each successive day for a full-on trip (not twice as much), skipping a day or two leaves you at the same dosage.  The max dosage where tolerance stops increasing is about 5 times the normal dose, around 250 g fresh (as tea) for ordinary cubes or around 125-150 g fresh for PE.  At that extreme level (and yeah it is extreme) you better have a really good reason to want to do this :laugh2: and a mother fucking shit ton of stash as well. 

I have tripped repeatedly each and every day doing this.  It is however tiring to do it, hence the weekends off.

YMMV, different people who've done this kind of thing have reported different tolerance caps, some are luckier than others in terms of how far they have to push it.

Here's part of my trip journal from one of those sessions, while writing every day:



As to the question "does it make you smarter?" I guess you'd have to try it and find out.  I don't think that's really one of the main effects though I could have missed it. :snoopyes:


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: PrimalSoup] * 1
    #26922960 - 09/07/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

regardless of tolerance, by ingesting 4g of shrooms a day (assuming it’s an isolate) you’re still ingesting the same same large dose of actives on the daily. It may not cause you to trip due to tolerance, but you’re still consuming the actives that supposedly have properties that can effect neuroplasticity.

Whether daily dosage would be the optimal route is debatable. I’d lean towards a once a week dose so your brain has some time to chill and learn to work with the new neuropathways.

Side note: there’s no science behind me that I’ve looked into, this is hypothetical


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: Gayfish]
    #26923029 - 09/07/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Possibly, but it depends on whether the neuroplasticity and/or neurogenesis (demonstrated in studies on rats) comes from the absolute dose (independent of the trip) or from the trip effects.  I don't know of any studies that look at this - how would you know how hard the rats are tripping?  It could be done though.

Personal experience suggests it's the trip effects not the absolute dose but that could be wrong. :shrug:


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26923226 - 09/07/20 02:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: chemically changed] * 1
    #26927500 - 09/10/20 02:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

i do not know about 4g but i been taking 2g every day for past one year and this is second year going, it takes one week for all the magic to disappear and you get this high in clouds like feeling in second week and after that NOTHING, becomes routine like any other SSRI but with shrooms its much different, your depression remains in control so does your anger and ocd and mother fucking pain relief a hell lot of pain relief no clusters, split head middle head pain and it works better than codeine. i take a full trip every week on 4g and @primalsoup is right you need to have stash or few monos running all seasons.


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: pesa] * 1
    #26928463 - 09/10/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Good to hear this sort of result. :snoopyes:


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: pesa]
    #26930405 - 09/11/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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i do not know about 4g but i been taking 2g every day for past one year and this is second year going, it takes one week for all the magic to disappear and you get this high in clouds like feeling in second week and after that NOTHING, becomes routine like any other SSRI but with shrooms its much different, your depression remains in control so does your anger and ocd and mother fucking pain relief a hell lot of pain relief no clusters, split head middle head pain and it works better than codeine. i take a full trip every week on 4g and @primalsoup is right you need to have stash or few monos running all seasons.





then why do you take 2g of mushrooms everyday then still?  wouldn't that just be pushing your brain into a warped homeostasis and stress receptor sites and break protein ligands down over time?


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: Typerwritermonky] * 1
    #26930727 - 09/11/20 08:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Nothing like that happens with extended use, even with much higher doses. :nojustno:


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: Typerwritermonky] * 2
    #26930918 - 09/11/20 10:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

minus the magic, mushrooms are great pain killer and better SSRI than zoloft, prozac, if you been on SSRI you get a buzz, high or the fucked up feeling of being dizzy and cluster head pain from meds. but mushrooms do not do that, over
longer period of time it gets better, and like primalsoup said nothing like that happen, even if you take higher dosage.
i take 2g every day for two reasons one pain(i got four slip discs and codeine does not work anymore immune to pain killers) and two it keeps depression, ocd in control and i can work around like a human and not a zombie of zoloft. mushrooms gave me tools what meds and psychologist sessions combine could not give me in 15 years. chronic pain and crippling depression is a bitch that needs to be address every day or you fell back to old ways so i keep taking like medicine. 


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: pesa]
    #26930979 - 09/11/20 11:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

And here you have the shit that researchers should REALLY be looking at - long term effective dosages. :snoopyes:


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: PrimalSoup] * 1
    #26931153 - 09/12/20 03:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

And it will also stop working on you and that's talking the experience here.

When I was younger right around 20 or so years ago I had so many of these fuckers and my mental state at the time was a wreck but they were helping me but the more I took the worse it got, manic depression and shit and then all the magic was gone. So I took a break 1 week, no effect well that shit turned into fucking years and to this day I don't think my tolerance has ever reached baseline.

But I'm about to find out here real soon because I'm finally breaking out the longest ever break 10+ years.

What changed my whole life was 2C-E but I'm damn sure that would not be the case if I treated like I did this beautiful fungus we have amongst us.

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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: Ganja420Boy]
    #26931160 - 09/12/20 03:32 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Forgot to mention I was taking them like everything 3 or 4 days, for how long I have no clue no remembrance was so ever.

But what I do remember was a fucked up feeling when I went to try them over a year later with a huge disapointment.


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: Ganja420Boy]
    #26931203 - 09/12/20 04:26 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

meds will fuck up your tolerance level, the first time very first time i took shroom was dry 30g, 3g no effect 8 g no effect and i kept going till i found myself in clouds and saw colors like never before and then fell in to deep darkness and after that i do not remember nothing but when i woke up i felt alive for the first time i felt i exist in this vessel of flesh,

after that never took zoloft or prozac been six years now and for past one and half year i keep increasing my stash. thing with meds it fucks up your tolerance level and your mind never gets a break with shrooms mind rests every 24 hours and i take every 26 hours giving 2 hour break. over the years i realize one you are out of trap of zolof/prozac/litium it takes a full year and your tolerance reach to normal and you can trip balls at 3g. i do not go beyond 2g i start to trip and combodian is one hell of pain killer.


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26931227 - 09/12/20 05:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

there is not a lot of money to be made off from shrooms or any other psychedelics. since its too cheap to produce and anyone can get shrooms following right teks, hope is some day people will get freedom from gaint pharma just like people got freedom from big tobacco also john hopkins is doing a lot of research on it.


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: pesa] * 1
    #26931888 - 09/12/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, but all the research projects are short-term although they do follow up.  None of them SFAIK look at the result of extended frequent usage.  If you want to know how that goes you have to just try it. :cookiemonster:


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26932415 - 09/12/20 07:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

This thread reminds me why I stopped coming here for a while


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: drr]
    #26932425 - 09/12/20 08:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Why's that?


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