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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: christopera] * 1
    #26921986 - 09/06/20 08:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: christopera]
    #26921990 - 09/06/20 08:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Murder still happens robberies still happen




So what good are they?



Im sorry but who do you want investigating your loved ones murder? Who do you want negotiating in a hostage situation, school shootings,mass murderers, rapist, the list doesn't end in the things that we can't or won't stop. Why are crimes committed when you have police? Free will we have ALWAYS had law and criminals for thousands of years in the form that resembles us most. Also police do stop a lot of crimes, they stop a lot of robberies,rapes,active shooters. A good percentage are the cops you hate for a good reason but the majority you hate for no reason and that won't stand up to logic or be seen as working together. It's not as easy as reinvesting money in the communities unfortunately.


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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: qman]
    #26921994 - 09/06/20 08:57 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah, Biden has a wonderful track https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_Crime_Control_and_Law_Enforcement_Actrecord with the police.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/20/18677998/joe-biden-1994-crime-bill-law-mass-incarceration

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You should know people voting against this or for that often means there was shit in the bill drop in the text that would be insane to pass so unless you know the cases well legally it's hard to make that case


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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 1
    #26922055 - 09/06/20 09:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah, Biden has a wonderful track https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_Crime_Control_and_Law_Enforcement_Actrecord with the police.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/20/18677998/joe-biden-1994-crime-bill-law-mass-incarceration

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You should know people voting against this or for that often means there was shit in the bill drop in the text that would be insane to pass so unless you know the cases well legally it's hard to make that case




Make what case exactly?  Biden drafted the crime bill which ultimately turned into a massive disaster. Are you disputing this assessment? Did you read the links?  https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/20/18677998/joe-biden-1994-crime-bill-law-mass-incarceration

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_Crime_Control_and_Law_Enforcement_Act


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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26922057 - 09/06/20 09:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Seriously_trippin said:
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christopera said:
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Murder still happens robberies still happen




So what good are they?



Im sorry but who do you want investigating your loved ones murder? Who do you want negotiating in a hostage situation, school shootings,mass murderers, rapist, the list doesn't end in the things that we can't or won't stop. Why are crimes committed when you have police? Free will we have ALWAYS had law and criminals for thousands of years in the form that resembles us most. Also police do stop a lot of crimes, they stop a lot of robberies,rapes,active shooters. A good percentage are the cops you hate for a good reason but the majority you hate for no reason and that won't stand up to logic or be seen as working together. It's not as easy as reinvesting money in the communities unfortunately.




What percentage of those crimes you listed do the police stop?


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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26922063 - 09/06/20 09:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Seriously_trippin said:
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christopera said:
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Murder still happens robberies still happen




So what good are they?



Im sorry but who do you want investigating your loved ones murder? Who do you want negotiating in a hostage situation, school shootings,mass murderers, rapist, the list doesn't end in the things that we can't or won't stop. Why are crimes committed when you have police? Free will we have ALWAYS had law and criminals for thousands of years in the form that resembles us most. Also police do stop a lot of crimes, they stop a lot of robberies,rapes,active shooters. A good percentage are the cops you hate for a good reason but the majority you hate for no reason and that won't stand up to logic or be seen as working together. It's not as easy as reinvesting money in the communities unfortunately.




Why are you sorry?

Maybe we could have investigators that aren't allowed to murder you without consequence? It takes imagination, I know.

You should address qman, because i don't think there's much evidence for them stopping much anything. Unless of course it's a traffic stop.


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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: christopera]
    #26922107 - 09/06/20 10:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah alot of traffic stops are bullshit mostly but even a broken clock is right 2 times a day. The fact that they stop crime in many ways from just having police presence to retire, going to domestic violence calls often ends in saving a life by stopping the crime before it starts.  Traffic stops do target people for money and occasionally find real bad people about to kill or do something horrible. One way or another this comes down to political ammo against a greater opportunity to change it. My father is ex LAPD after he got outta Vietnam and my step dad was in a combined 45 years years and both of them stopped a lot of bad shit. My dad and my family was threatened by officers after trying to expose injustice. I just think swing voters will not take any defunding of police right now.


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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: qman]
    #26922667 - 09/07/20 08:58 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Obama and Biden doing a terrible job is what got trump elected. What did Obama accomplish? Not a damn thing. At least trump isn't going after my rights like Biden is. Im not ok with the possibility of a 2nd shut down and I'm not ok with him banning rifles. So fuck Biden.. A second shut down would literally destroy the country! Him even mentioning a second shut down makes him the enemy. I bet if he was the president we would still be shut down and you far lefty's would be praising him for it. You guys don't care about the country and these riots are proof of that.




The US mismanaged this pandemic from day one, if another shut down is needed under Trump or Biden that's not the end of the world. In fact, if the government provides the proper reliefs programs it's not even a big deal.

The riots are symbolic that The Elite and our elected officials don't care about the nation, not the other way around. Who shipped tens of millions of high pay jobs out of the US?  Yeah, the rich did. Who allowed tens of millions of illegals into the US labor market?  Yeah, the rich did. Who destroyed the US middle class?  Yeah, the rich did. But let's now blame the ramifications of those policies on the peasants when they start protesting the injustices.  :facepalm:




Are you fucking insane? This is exactly what I'm talking about! We can't do another shut down! It'll literally be another great depression and people will die! Do you think the money for the relief programs is falling off of trees? We're the ones paying for it!!! Do you think there's jobs waiting for these unemployed people? You have to be young as fuck. It's like you don't think with logic at all.


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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: qman]
    #26922676 - 09/07/20 09:07 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I bet you're one of those people that didn't make anything before the pandemic and you're wanting more free money. I would seriously bet my life on it.


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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Shenmue] * 1
    #26922841 - 09/07/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Do you think the money for the relief programs is falling off of trees? We're the ones paying for it!!!



Billionaires who are making record profits are the ones that should pay for it, not you and me.


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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26922858 - 09/07/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Do you think the money for the relief programs is falling off of trees? We're the ones paying for it!!!



Billionaires who are making record profits are the ones that should pay for it, not you and me.




He's completely ignorant to the fact that the banks have already been supplemented (by the Fed) for potential lack of payments from individuals and businesses. So it's nothing more than a choice at this point to foreclose on them. He has been suckered into The Elites scare tactics and that's why he's now resorting to personal insults when someone challenges his false narrative.


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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Shenmue] * 1
    #26922865 - 09/07/20 11:33 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Obama and Biden doing a terrible job is what got trump elected. What did Obama accomplish? Not a damn thing. At least trump isn't going after my rights like Biden is. Im not ok with the possibility of a 2nd shut down and I'm not ok with him banning rifles. So fuck Biden.. A second shut down would literally destroy the country! Him even mentioning a second shut down makes him the enemy. I bet if he was the president we would still be shut down and you far lefty's would be praising him for it. You guys don't care about the country and these riots are proof of that.




The US mismanaged this pandemic from day one, if another shut down is needed under Trump or Biden that's not the end of the world. In fact, if the government provides the proper reliefs programs it's not even a big deal.

The riots are symbolic that The Elite and our elected officials don't care about the nation, not the other way around. Who shipped tens of millions of high pay jobs out of the US?  Yeah, the rich did. Who allowed tens of millions of illegals into the US labor market?  Yeah, the rich did. Who destroyed the US middle class?  Yeah, the rich did. But let's now blame the ramifications of those policies on the peasants when they start protesting the injustices.  :facepalm:




Are you fucking insane? This is exactly what I'm talking about! We can't do another shut down! It'll literally be another great depression and people will die! Do you think the money for the relief programs is falling off of trees? We're the ones paying for it!!! Do you think there's jobs waiting for these unemployed people? You have to be young as fuck. It's like you don't think with logic at all.




I think you lack a basic understanding how the economics works. Most of the relief programs come in the form of mortgage and rent suspensions. The government already gave the banks the money to not suffer the loss from non-payment. The banks now need to pass on that relief, but guess what?  They don't want to, instead they want to take assets from people and businesses that are down and out.

Do you have any evidence that the government providing relief programs during a pandemic will cause a great depression, or did you just pull that out of your ass?


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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Shenmue] * 2
    #26922870 - 09/07/20 11:40 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I bet you're one of those people that didn't make anything before the pandemic and you're wanting more free money. I would seriously bet my life on it.




I was more than fine before this pandemic and I'm more than fine today. So instead of resorting to personal insults, why don't you address just the issues, or is that too difficult for you?

BTW, I am young as you guessed, I won't be 50 for another 6 months. :awedance:


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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: qman]
    #26922966 - 09/07/20 12:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Is there job's waiting for all of these unemployed people? Is the government going to pay for their rent, food, gas, car payments, clothes and everything else they need 12 months from now? Are these people going to have exactly what they had before the shutdown? The answer is NO! Destroying millions of lives to save thousands is fucking stupid! I seriously wish people like you would fall off the face of the earth. You're selfish, want to tell other people what to do and care nothing about freedom. Shutting down businesses and forcing people to stay home is fucked up! I wish we had some type of war against the radical left and destroyed you. God I hate you people :lol: ...


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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26922969 - 09/07/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Billy Ray said:
Two parents caring for their child is better than a village caring for a child.




This here is why America is falling behind. Nobody gives a fuck what happens outside of their own house.

So, if you're clearly not interested in helping my family, why the fuck should I care what you think, or how your family lives?

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Shenmue said:
Obama and Biden doing a terrible job is what got trump elected. What did Obama accomplish? Not a damn thing. At least trump isn't going after my rights like Biden is. Im not ok with the possibility of a 2nd shut down and I'm not ok with him banning rifles. So fuck Biden.. A second shut down would literally destroy the country! Him even mentioning a second shut down makes him the enemy. I bet if he was the president we would still be shut down and you far lefty's would be praising him for it. You guys don't care about the country and these riots are proof of that.




The US mismanaged this pandemic from day one, if another shut down is needed under Trump or Biden that's not the end of the world. In fact, if the government provides the proper reliefs programs it's not even a big deal.

The riots are symbolic that The Elite and our elected officials don't care about the nation, not the other way around. Who shipped tens of millions of high pay jobs out of the US?  Yeah, the rich did. Who allowed tens of millions of illegals into the US labor market?  Yeah, the rich did. Who destroyed the US middle class?  Yeah, the rich did. But let's now blame the ramifications of those policies on the peasants when they start protesting the injustices.  :facepalm:




Are you fucking insane? This is exactly what I'm talking about! We can't do another shut down! It'll literally be another great depression and people will die! Do you think the money for the relief programs is falling off of trees? We're the ones paying for it!!! Do you think there's jobs waiting for these unemployed people? You have to be young as fuck. It's like you don't think with logic at all.




The economy will slide into a great depression anyway. I joked about it with boomermemes earlier, but the truth is that a consumer based economy doesn't function when there aren't, ya know, consumers. Now, third quarter GDP is probably going to be record high, because second quarter GDP was -32%, but fourth quarter GDP is probably going to be another drop as people run out of money to spend.

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The boats sank because there were too many driving too close together ... fucking morons .






That's not why the boats sank. Lots of similar sized boats driving close together don't sink. The reason the boats sank, and the reason this is such a perfect representation of American society, is that the huge boats drove through the little boats with no regard for their wake, and their wake swamped the little boats.


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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26922970 - 09/07/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-trump-boat-parade-the-wake-of-other-boats-caused-5-boats-to-sink-sheriff-s-office-says/ar-BB18N5nP?ocid=msedgdhp

Yeah, no one said they were the brightest of people.  This article made me laugh.  ABANDON SHIP!  Amazing video as well.  All those flags going to waste and people jumping off.  What is a wake?


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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Shenmue]
    #26922972 - 09/07/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Is there job's waiting for all of these unemployed people? Is the government going to pay for their rent, food, gas, car payments, clothes and everything else they need 12 months from now? Are these people going to have exactly what they had before the shutdown? The answer is NO! Destroying millions of lives to save thousands is fucking stupid! I seriously wish people like you would fall off the face of the earth. You're selfish, want to tell other people what to do and care nothing about freedom. Shutting down businesses and forcing people to stay home is fucked up! I wish we had some type of war against the radical left and destroyed you. God I hate you people :lol: ...




I know you're ignoring me, but...businesses are doing perfectly fine, just look at the stock market.

Oh, you mean the little businesses, and the individual families? Yeah, those guys are gone. If the government doesn't bail them out, they're fucked.


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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Barnaby]
    #26922976 - 09/07/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-trump-boat-parade-the-wake-of-other-boats-caused-5-boats-to-sink-sheriff-s-office-says/ar-BB18N5nP?ocid=msedgdhp

Yeah, no one said they were the brightest of people.  This article made me laugh.  ABANDON SHIP!  Amazing video as well.  All those flags going to waste and people jumping off.  What is a wake?




A wake is the waves caused by displacement of water by boats. You know that V-shaped wave coming from the back of every boats you've ever seen (that wasn;t up on a plane-when they skim above the water)? That's a wake.


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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Kryptos]
    #26922987 - 09/07/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I had no idea.  But thanks for telling me what I already know and use common sense for!  Some people actually do boating and sailing themselves with common sense.  But Trump people know more than anyone about everything. 

I forgot.  Thank you for that idiotic response.  Stop wasting my time.


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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Barnaby]
    #26923006 - 09/07/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I had no idea.  But thanks for telling me what I already know and use common sense for!

I forgot.  Thank you for that idiotic response.  Stop wasting my time.




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