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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Kryptos]
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That's what's frustrating about these movements. They're making a mess for the peasants while the aristocrats cheer them on from ivory towers. It seems like protesters in Chicago had a thought similar to qman's point and began protesting on Lori Lightfoot's street, but she insulated her block with police presence and that was the end of that.
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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: qman]
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qman said: Yeah, they need Trump in office to stay rich. Those boats never existed before Trump won the election. Are we being serious here?
What the hell do you think Reagan, Clinton, Bush and Obama were doing before Trump? Getting the rich even richer at the expense of the working class. Guess what's going to happened under Biden? It gets even worse.
How exactly does taxing people that make over 300k make the rich getting richer worse?
Because people that make 300k are still high class peasants and nothing more. I'm not saying hiking taxes on people making 300k is a bad idea, but it doesn't address the wealthy people.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/08/27/amazon-ceo-jeff-bezos-now-worth-more-than-200-billion/5647366002/ This is just one example of the real wealth and ain't nobody gonna touch it, and that includes bought and paid for Biden.
exploration Because bezos is worth 200 billion 300k is "peasant" status? Not having money for food or rent is peasant status
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Didn't trump spend 66 million of his own money on his presidential campaign? Are you saying he spent all of that money and turned half the country against him just to be controlled and lose everything? He's rich and no one is controlling that guy trust me.
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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Shenmue] 1
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Shenmue said: Didn't trump spend 66 million of his own money on his presidential campaign? Are you saying he spent all of that money and turned half the country against him just to be controlled and lose everything? He's rich and no one is controlling that guy trust me.
I don't know if many people remember or not, but about a week after Trump was elected a reporter interviewed Mitch McConnell and asked him how he felt about all of Trump's campaign proposals such as tariffs, infrastructure and immigration. And you know what his response was? It's never going to happen. Why didn't Trump call him out?
Trump run on economic nationalism, that's how he got elected. He didn't do a dam thing for the working class. No trade fix, no jobs returning back to the US, no infrastructure investment, no economic growth. Trump did ONE thing the whole time- massive corporate tax cuts for the wealthiest companies in the world owned by the wealthiest people in the world. Trump is a little bitch.
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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Billy Ray] 2
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Billy Ray said: That's what's frustrating about these movements. They're making a mess for the peasants while the aristocrats cheer them on from ivory towers. It seems like protesters in Chicago had a thought similar to qman's point and began protesting on Lori Lightfoot's street, but she insulated her block with police presence and that was the end of that.
That's by design.
You ever watch Star Trek DS9? There's a scene at one point where they're putting together a Cardassian insurgency against the Dominion, and the cardassian guy doesn't want to kill his own people. The Bajoran former terrorist/freedom fighter lady basically gives a speech about collaborators, which kind of boils down to breaking a few eggs to make an omelet. She had, after all, killed many innocent people during her own insurgency, because they got in the way.
Nazis did this as well in Vichy France. They put their HQs in populated areas, and made sure senior SS leadership was always surrounded by French civilians that made effective human shields. They took it a step further by openly murdering innocent civilians as "punishment" whenever the allies sent in commandos to assassinate leadership.
That's an effective defense mechanism against actual change in society. The people who are willing to take actual steps must, almost by definition, do monstrous things. Everyone knows that Stalin killed millions of soviet citizens in the process of turning the USSR from a largely agrarian society into an industrial powerhouse capable of rivaling first the Wehrmacht, then the US. If Stalin didn't do that, then the USSR would not have been able to stand against the Nazi war machine. In all honesty, we'd all probably be speaking Nazi, because as soon as Hitler captured the Baltic oil fields, the only major logistical challenge the Germans had, their lack of oil, would have been solved. They wouldn't have had to rely on significantly less efficient coal gasification processes or literal, actual, booze to fuel their military machines.
Fact is, if there was ever a major revolution against capitalism, I'd probably not survive it. I'm not wealthy, but I am (relatively) well off. I live in a big house in a nice (expensive) community, I have a relatively cushy engineering job. I am, unfortunately, part of the population of skilled professionals that the truly super-rich hide behind. At a certain point, around six figures, you become functionally indistinguishable from the billionaire on the outside. I live in the same type of house in the same neighborhoods that someone with a spare yacht lives. I just don't have a spare yacht. Or a second house.
That's really the funny part. To me, at least. If there was a peasant revolt, I'm wealthy enough to live in the type of neighborhoods that aristocrats live in, but I'm not wealthy enough to hire private security, or to hop on a private plane, or to go on my private yacht and ride it out. I am wealthy enough to be a target, but I am not wealthy enough to escape.
I guess if you wanna make an omelette, you gotta break a few eggs. The trick is to not stop in horror after you've broken the eggs. You gotta put them in the frying pan and turn up the heat. If you don't follow through, then all you did was smash some perfectly good eggs. Good thing they're a dollar a dozen.
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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Kryptos]
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Going to be a mass exodus from major cities. At least thats what I am banking on with my country property and acerage. No homeowners association. Cant imagine paying some HA dues, so they can tell you how to live... in your own home. Or having Mrs .Pritchett filing complaint on your over height hedges Lol
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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: SirTripAlot]
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Where I live property values are going through the roof from all the second homes and air bnbs going in. Cant go to any of the swimming holes, theyve been shut down due to over crowding and pollution. Traffic up 80% it was a stay atbhome order...not go out of the epicenter into the least infected places to spread the disease around order.
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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: qman]
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Obama and Biden doing a terrible job is what got trump elected. What did Obama accomplish? Not a damn thing. At least trump isn't going after my rights like Biden is. Im not ok with the possibility of a 2nd shut down and I'm not ok with him banning rifles. So fuck Biden.. A second shut down would literally destroy the country! Him even mentioning a second shut down makes him the enemy. I bet if he was the president we would still be shut down and you far lefty's would be praising him for it. You guys don't care about the country and these riots are proof of that.
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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Kryptos]
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Billy Ray said: That's what's frustrating about these movements. They're making a mess for the peasants while the aristocrats cheer them on from ivory towers. It seems like protesters in Chicago had a thought similar to qman's point and began protesting on Lori Lightfoot's street, but she insulated her block with police presence and that was the end of that.
That's by design.
You ever watch Star Trek DS9? There's a scene at one point where they're putting together a Cardassian insurgency against the Dominion, and the cardassian guy doesn't want to kill his own people. The Bajoran former terrorist/freedom fighter lady basically gives a speech about collaborators, which kind of boils down to breaking a few eggs to make an omelet. She had, after all, killed many innocent people during her own insurgency, because they got in the way.
Nazis did this as well in Vichy France. They put their HQs in populated areas, and made sure senior SS leadership was always surrounded by French civilians that made effective human shields. They took it a step further by openly murdering innocent civilians as "punishment" whenever the allies sent in commandos to assassinate leadership.
That's an effective defense mechanism against actual change in society. The people who are willing to take actual steps must, almost by definition, do monstrous things. Everyone knows that Stalin killed millions of soviet citizens in the process of turning the USSR from a largely agrarian society into an industrial powerhouse capable of rivaling first the Wehrmacht, then the US. If Stalin didn't do that, then the USSR would not have been able to stand against the Nazi war machine. In all honesty, we'd all probably be speaking Nazi, because as soon as Hitler captured the Baltic oil fields, the only major logistical challenge the Germans had, their lack of oil, would have been solved. They wouldn't have had to rely on significantly less efficient coal gasification processes or literal, actual, booze to fuel their military machines.
Fact is, if there was ever a major revolution against capitalism, I'd probably not survive it. I'm not wealthy, but I am (relatively) well off. I live in a big house in a nice (expensive) community, I have a relatively cushy engineering job. I am, unfortunately, part of the population of skilled professionals that the truly super-rich hide behind. At a certain point, around six figures, you become functionally indistinguishable from the billionaire on the outside. I live in the same type of house in the same neighborhoods that someone with a spare yacht lives. I just don't have a spare yacht. Or a second house.
That's really the funny part. To me, at least. If there was a peasant revolt, I'm wealthy enough to live in the type of neighborhoods that aristocrats live in, but I'm not wealthy enough to hire private security, or to hop on a private plane, or to go on my private yacht and ride it out. I am wealthy enough to be a target, but I am not wealthy enough to escape.
I guess if you wanna make an omelette, you gotta break a few eggs. The trick is to not stop in horror after you've broken the eggs. You gotta put them in the frying pan and turn up the heat. If you don't follow through, then all you did was smash some perfectly good eggs. Good thing they're a dollar a dozen.
What you're saying sounds like it makes sense, but I can't get behind killing people. Is the United States really that bad that we need a revolution? I can't get behind abolishing the police and prison system, critical race theory and disrupting the nuclear family. These are some of the fundamental ideas these groups are working from and I do not see how this stuff leads to a better world. It would be great if we didn't need police or prisons, but that's not logical. People are going to do things that makes them a threat to others and that's why prison is needed. If we abolish the police, who takes over on the streets? It would seem like the people that can't afford private security will be the the ones who suffer from abolishing the police.
I think police and prison reform could go a long way.
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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Shenmue] 1
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Shenmue said: Obama and Biden doing a terrible job is what got trump elected. What did Obama accomplish? Not a damn thing. At least trump isn't going after my rights like Biden is. Im not ok with the possibility of a 2nd shut down and I'm not ok with him banning rifles. So fuck Biden.. A second shut down would literally destroy the country! Him even mentioning a second shut down makes him the enemy. I bet if he was the president we would still be shut down and you far lefty's would be praising him for it. You guys don't care about the country and these riots are proof of that.
The US mismanaged this pandemic from day one, if another shut down is needed under Trump or Biden that's not the end of the world. In fact, if the government provides the proper reliefs programs it's not even a big deal.
The riots are symbolic that The Elite and our elected officials don't care about the nation, not the other way around. Who shipped tens of millions of high pay jobs out of the US? Yeah, the rich did. Who allowed tens of millions of illegals into the US labor market? Yeah, the rich did. Who destroyed the US middle class? Yeah, the rich did. But let's now blame the ramifications of those policies on the peasants when they start protesting the injustices.
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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Billy Ray]
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Billy Ray said: What you're saying sounds like it makes sense, but I can't get behind killing people. Is the United States really that bad that we need a revolution? I can't get behind abolishing the police and prison system, critical race theory and disrupting the nuclear family. These are some of the fundamental ideas these groups are working from and I do not see how this stuff leads to a better world. It would be great if we didn't need police or prisons, but that's not logical. People are going to do things that makes them a threat to others and that's why prison is needed. If we abolish the police, who takes over on the streets? It would seem like the people that can't afford private security will be the the ones who suffer from abolishing the police.
I think police and prison reform could go a long way.
Nobody is talking about abolishing the police. Only defunding the police, because right now the police is a bloated and corrupt institution that collects money that should be going to regular social services. Who gets called when someone has a mental breakdown? Police. Who gets called when someone can't afford to eat? Police. Police are not equipped to deal with mental health crises, nor are they equipped to deal with poverty. They're trained to shoot and then let the courts figure it out. What if instead of police, we had social workers that dealt with mental health crises? Let the police deal with violent crime, and take everything else off their plate. Same with prisons. Prisons are a place for violent criminals that need to be removed from society. Putting an addict in prison to "clean them up" does nothing but promote societal misery.
Of course, I think it's interesting that since the police was established as something other than slave catchers in the mid-19th century, the criminal code became more complicated. Used to be, everyone knew what a crime was, because everyone agreed that stealing and killing was wrong. Now walking in the wrong part of a public road is a crime. You probably commit multiple crimes every day without even realizing it. I'm guessing at least one felony every few days, technically.
What's wrong with critical race theory? Do you disagree that crime, poverty, and other social ills are a result of social choices? That's basically the foundation of CRT: the idea that social problems are caused by social structures and cultural assumptions. It's clearest in the form of racism, but it applies to everything else as well.
I don;t know where you got "disrupting the nuclear family" from, I'm guessing that's a Fox News slogan. Nobody wants to destroy the nuclear family. I just believe that people should be able to fuck whoever they want to fuck as consenting adults. Someone being gay, or trans, or poly doesn't "disrupt the nuclear family", unless the thought that some dude might like dicks in his ass somewhere has caused problems in your marriage. Which seems more like a personal issue, from my perspective. I don't know, I don't spend my time worrying about other dude's dicks.
The thing is, these are all steps that must be taken explicitly to prevent a revolution. Revolution is the language of the voiceless and oppressed. If you ignore people's valid complaints about society, then you open the door to them ignoring your valid complaints about their actions. If a school shooter snaps after four months of bullying, what do you think happens after 40 (for white working class) or 400 (for black people) years of oppression?
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The boats sank because there were too many driving too close together ... fucking morons .
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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Psilynut2]
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Billy Ray said: What you're saying sounds like it makes sense, but I can't get behind killing people. Is the United States really that bad that we need a revolution? I can't get behind abolishing the police and prison system, critical race theory and disrupting the nuclear family. These are some of the fundamental ideas these groups are working from and I do not see how this stuff leads to a better world. It would be great if we didn't need police or prisons, but that's not logical. People are going to do things that makes them a threat to others and that's why prison is needed. If we abolish the police, who takes over on the streets? It would seem like the people that can't afford private security will be the the ones who suffer from abolishing the police.
I think police and prison reform could go a long way.
Nobody is talking about abolishing the police. Only defunding the police, because right now the police is a bloated and corrupt institution that collects money that should be going to regular social services. Who gets called when someone has a mental breakdown? Police. Who gets called when someone can't afford to eat? Police. Police are not equipped to deal with mental health crises, nor are they equipped to deal with poverty. They're trained to shoot and then let the courts figure it out. What if instead of police, we had social workers that dealt with mental health crises? Let the police deal with violent crime, and take everything else off their plate. Same with prisons. Prisons are a place for violent criminals that need to be removed from society. Putting an addict in prison to "clean them up" does nothing but promote societal misery.
Of course, I think it's interesting that since the police was established as something other than slave catchers in the mid-19th century, the criminal code became more complicated. Used to be, everyone knew what a crime was, because everyone agreed that stealing and killing was wrong. Now walking in the wrong part of a public road is a crime. You probably commit multiple crimes every day without even realizing it. I'm guessing at least one felony every few days, technically.
What's wrong with critical race theory? Do you disagree that crime, poverty, and other social ills are a result of social choices? That's basically the foundation of CRT: the idea that social problems are caused by social structures and cultural assumptions. It's clearest in the form of racism, but it applies to everything else as well.
I don;t know where you got "disrupting the nuclear family" from, I'm guessing that's a Fox News slogan. Nobody wants to destroy the nuclear family. I just believe that people should be able to fuck whoever they want to fuck as consenting adults. Someone being gay, or trans, or poly doesn't "disrupt the nuclear family", unless the thought that some dude might like dicks in his ass somewhere has caused problems in your marriage. Which seems more like a personal issue, from my perspective. I don't know, I don't spend my time worrying about other dude's dicks.
The thing is, these are all steps that must be taken explicitly to prevent a revolution. Revolution is the language of the voiceless and oppressed. If you ignore people's valid complaints about society, then you open the door to them ignoring your valid complaints about their actions. If a school shooter snaps after four months of bullying, what do you think happens after 40 (for white working class) or 400 (for black people) years of oppression?
People are talking about abolishing the police. Here's a NY Times article with the title, Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish The Police. Here's an article of a BLM Philadelphia organizer proposing a 5 year plan to abolish the police. I agree with a lot of what you say and that's why I think police reform can work.
In regards to disrupting the nuclear family, those are the exact words on blacklivesmatter.com I do not care what people are doing sexually. I think it's easy to observe that generally speaking, two parents are better than one, yet black children are much more likely to be raised by a single parent than any other race. https://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/tables/107-children-in-single-parent-families-by-race?loc=1&loct=2#ranking/2/any/true/37/10/431.
I disagree with anything that discriminates someone based on the color of their skin, therefore critical race theory is bogus to me.
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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Billy Ray]
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If you reject anything that discriminates based on skin color you'd consider the data showing black children being more likely to be raised by single parents bogus too.
"Discriminate" doesn't always carry a negative connotation. Discrimination is in fact used all of the time in numerous legitimate ways. That said, a denial of the less fortunate reality of black people in this country is discrimination (the negative connotation) in its own right.
Most people who are for major police reform are also aware that abolition of the police in total is silly. The better argument is that we pay for the police, and they aren't delivering the product we want, so we should shift our funding to services that are more worthwhile. There's hardly anything to argue about when it's phrased this way.
Finally, as far as disrupting the nuclear family, you are being a little dramatic (from the BLM site);
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Having a positive community sounds like a great thing to me. There's nothing destructive about it.
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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: christopera]
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How am I being dramatic? Those are the words on the website.
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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Billy Ray]
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Because disrupting the nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable is absolutely no threat to you or anybody else. You are literally saying that you are against these things, which is silly.
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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: christopera]
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Two parents caring for their child is better than a village caring for a child.
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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Billy Ray]
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You can't get behind community wanting to take care of and enrich the life of a child because two parents are better?
Okay.
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Re: Multiple boats sink during Trump parade [Re: Kryptos]
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Billy Ray said: What you're saying sounds like it makes sense, but I can't get behind killing people. Is the United States really that bad that we need a revolution? I can't get behind abolishing the police and prison system, critical race theory and disrupting the nuclear family. These are some of the fundamental ideas these groups are working from and I do not see how this stuff leads to a better world. It would be great if we didn't need police or prisons, but that's not logical. People are going to do things that makes them a threat to others and that's why prison is needed. If we abolish the police, who takes over on the streets? It would seem like the people that can't afford private security will be the the ones who suffer from abolishing the police.
I think police and prison reform could go a long way.
Nobody is talking about abolishing the police. Only defunding the police, because right now the police is a bloated and corrupt institution that collects money that should be going to regular social services. Who gets called when someone has a mental breakdown? Police. Who gets called when someone can't afford to eat? Police. Police are not equipped to deal with mental health crises, nor are they equipped to deal with poverty. They're trained to shoot and then let the courts figure it out. What if instead of police, we had social workers that dealt with mental health crises? Let the police deal with violent crime, and take everything else off their plate. Same with prisons. Prisons are a place for violent criminals that need to be removed from society. Putting an addict in prison to "clean them up" does nothing but promote societal misery.
Of course, I think it's interesting that since the police was established as something other than slave catchers in the mid-19th century, the criminal code became more complicated. Used to be, everyone knew what a crime was, because everyone agreed that stealing and killing was wrong. Now walking in the wrong part of a public road is a crime. You probably commit multiple crimes every day without even realizing it. I'm guessing at least one felony every few days, technically.
What's wrong with critical race theory? Do you disagree that crime, poverty, and other social ills are a result of social choices? That's basically the foundation of CRT: the idea that social problems are caused by social structures and cultural assumptions. It's clearest in the form of racism, but it applies to everything else as well.
I don;t know where you got "disrupting the nuclear family" from, I'm guessing that's a Fox News slogan. Nobody wants to destroy the nuclear family. I just believe that people should be able to fuck whoever they want to fuck as consenting adults. Someone being gay, or trans, or poly doesn't "disrupt the nuclear family", unless the thought that some dude might like dicks in his ass somewhere has caused problems in your marriage. Which seems more like a personal issue, from my perspective. I don't know, I don't spend my time worrying about other dude's dicks.
The thing is, these are all steps that must be taken explicitly to prevent a revolution. Revolution is the language of the voiceless and oppressed. If you ignore people's valid complaints about society, then you open the door to them ignoring your valid complaints about their actions. If a school shooter snaps after four months of bullying, what do you think happens after 40 (for white working class) or 400 (for black people) years of oppression?
I strongly disagree with defunding the police to see police brutality changed. So does Biden, he knows it would be a terrible idea to advocate Nationwide reallocation of police funding. Murder still happens robberies still happen, we need police to be on board for real change that means coming up with a plan that doesn't just fit your agenda but is realistic. If anything all police departments should be required to have body cams and funding for it. Also they need more psychological vetting and training is needed. I don't see any route of "relocating" police funds. Leads to more crime and undermines Biden's chances. Your feeding into what Trump want to see. What Republican voters will point as as ridiculous. That might not be the reality you want but it's a better reality then 4 more years of this.
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So what good are they?
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