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Nisswa mayor's arrest for obstruction, disorderly conduct caught on video
    #26918660 - 09/05/20 05:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/nisswa-mayors-arrest-for-obstruction-disorderly-conduct-caught-on-video




The mayor was placed on the hood of a car, with video of the incident shared to TikTok.
BY ADAM UREN , UPDATED: AUG 31, 2020 | ORIGINAL: AUG 31, 2020

The mayor of Nisswa, Minnesota, was arrested over the weekend, with his apprehension by police caught on camera and shared on the popular video app TikTok.

Fred Heidmann was arrested for obstruction of a peace officer and disorderly conduct, following an incident in which he seems to have confronted officers carrying out a traffic stop on a vehicle that was not his own.

According to a report from Pequot Lakes PD sent to BMTN, Heidmann started recording officers carrying out a traffic stop as part of the department's work in the Toward Zero Deaths traffic safety program.

He then allegedly began to cross the highway towards the vehicle, with officers telling him he could record but must do so from a safe distance, at which point Heidmann allegedly "became belligerent and argued with the officers and then left the scene," only to return a short time later "with the same demeanor."

Video shared by the TikTok user Mill333 – who said Heidmann "tried to make sure we were okay" – catches a snippet of the conversation, with Heidmann saying: "You know what? And you know what? You're not qualified to do this kind of work, you should be patrolling the streets."

It's at this point that the officer arrests Heidmann, placing an arm around his neck as Heidmann tries to move away, before putting Heidmann's arm behind his back, and placing him face down on the hood of the car as another officer comes to help.

Heidmann was cited by the officers and released.

BMTN has reached out to the City of Nisswa and Heidmann for comment.

The mayor was most recently the subject of headlines in June, after he posted a comment to Facebook defending a Brainerd school teacher who posted racist comments online following the death of George Floyd and the subsequent protests and riots in the Twin Cities, blaming Black people for the unrest and saying you didn't see white people acting that way.

Heidmann wrote that what she said "is a pretty accurate account of what is happening," although he said that what happened to Floyd was "inexcusable" and the officers involved should "face the consequences to the full extent of the law."

Other posts from Heidmann's Facebook page, according to the Pine and Lakes Echo Journal, included an article about why gay marriage is harmful, a post claiming Muslims hate "Christians, Jews and atheists," and an article from an anti-Islam conspiracy site.

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I'm happy that dog didn't run out and get hit by a car. Wow.


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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Re: Nisswa mayor's arrest for obstruction, disorderly conduct caught on video [Re: HamHead]
    #26918732 - 09/05/20 07:01 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

So he did something worth a citation and that's a good reason to put your arm around someone's throat? Lol. For such physical people they sure are a bunch of pussies.


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Re: Nisswa mayor's arrest for obstruction, disorderly conduct caught on video [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26918744 - 09/05/20 07:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It's better than having him struggle. Or twisting his arm up behind his head, possibly breaking an arm.

Perhaps police should be enrolled in BJJ.

:shrug:

I hear a bunch of BJJ guys smoke pot. They say 'rolling stoned'.

Just because someone is in a 'choke hold', does not mean they are choking.

If you control a head, you control a body.

This is well known.

In my opinion, the short amount of time it took for him to be put in cuffs and be out of said choke hold says somethings. First, that cop knew how to control a human body. Second, there was little struggle. Leading to three, if there were a struggle, he would have been taken to the ground before reaching the hood.

He came back a second time, if he let it go the first time and took his dog home, perhaps he wouldn't have been put in cuffs for obstructing police business.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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Re: Nisswa mayor's arrest for obstruction, disorderly conduct caught on video [Re: HamHead]
    #26918750 - 09/05/20 07:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

He was cited. A traffic ticket is a citation. They're being pussies and you're trying to justify it by saying it's not protocol and he was in a bad mood. I really don't care about either of those things.


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Re: Nisswa mayor's arrest for obstruction, disorderly conduct caught on video [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26918759 - 09/05/20 07:21 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I was arrested in the lobby of my local PD two weeks ago for trying to get a complaint form by the officer I was there to file a complaint on.


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Re: Nisswa mayor's arrest for obstruction, disorderly conduct caught on video [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26918764 - 09/05/20 07:24 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

How dare you. You should get back and make sure they choke you out for disagreeing with them. The important part when you've hurt a cop's pride is to make sure they find ways to belittle you and exert their dominance.


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Re: Nisswa mayor's arrest for obstruction, disorderly conduct caught on video [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26918774 - 09/05/20 07:29 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

They kept trying but I kept hitting them with being nice and respectful and they didn't know how to even react. Very very bizarre incident.


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Re: Nisswa mayor's arrest for obstruction, disorderly conduct caught on video [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26918779 - 09/05/20 07:36 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

larry.fisherman said:
He was cited. A traffic ticket is a citation. They're being pussies and you're trying to justify it by saying it's not protocol and he was in a bad mood. I really don't care about either of those things.




I apologize, I don't understand.

I get that it's a citation and he was released.

I'm sorry for sharing my opinions.

If he would have backed off like those police asked or told or however they expressed him to back away, he came back and interrupted or interfered or whatever he was doing, with police business, whatever that may have been.

He has an opinion like you and I, what he was detained for was obstruction. He could have yelled and shouted as loud as he wanted from a distance deemed safe by those officers.

I don't know if common traffic stops are crime scenes or whatever, but it seems reasonable that police should have some sort of authority over how close people can be around.

There are many grey lines here. I welcome peaceful discussion.

Please, let's leave name calling out of this thread.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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Re: Nisswa mayor's arrest for obstruction, disorderly conduct caught on video [Re: HamHead]
    #26918785 - 09/05/20 07:40 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

They weren't trying to conduct the investigation they kept pressing him to leave and then just grabbed him. Let the guy run his mouth how does that impede your investigation?


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Re: Nisswa mayor's arrest for obstruction, disorderly conduct caught on video [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26918791 - 09/05/20 07:45 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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They weren't trying to conduct the investigation they kept pressing him to leave and then just grabbed him. Let the guy run his mouth how does that impede your investigation?




How did they know he wouldn't have become aggressive?

If someone is close enough to grab a baton or worse, a gun, what could happen?

Those unknowns cause me anxiety, when someone is agitated, I can only imagine what a police would feel, especially these days with many protests and stuff.



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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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Re: Nisswa mayor's arrest for obstruction, disorderly conduct caught on video [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26918792 - 09/05/20 07:45 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Also just looked it up obstruction in Minnesota is only for criminal offenses traffic violation i dont think qualifies as criminal


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Re: Nisswa mayor's arrest for obstruction, disorderly conduct caught on video [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26918793 - 09/05/20 07:48 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

https://ryangarry.com/minnesota-levels-of-offense/
What criminal offense was he obstructing?


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Re: Nisswa mayor's arrest for obstruction, disorderly conduct caught on video [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26918794 - 09/05/20 07:48 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Subdivision 1.Crime. Whoever intentionally does any of the following may be sentenced as provided in subdivision 2:
(1) obstructs, hinders, or prevents the lawful execution of any legal process, civil or criminal, or apprehension of another on a charge or conviction of a criminal offense;

(2) obstructs, resists, or interferes with a peace officer while the officer is engaged in the performance of official duties;

(3) interferes with or obstructs a firefighter while the firefighter is engaged in the performance of official duties;

(4) interferes with or obstructs a member of an ambulance service personnel crew, as defined in section 144E.001, subdivision 3a, who is providing, or attempting to provide, emergency care; or

(5) by force or threat of force endeavors to obstruct any employee of the Department of Revenue while the employee is lawfully engaged in the performance of official duties for the purpose of deterring or interfering with the performance of those duties.


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Re: Nisswa mayor's arrest for obstruction, disorderly conduct caught on video [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26918948 - 09/05/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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https://ryangarry.com/minnesota-levels-of-offense/
What criminal offense was he obstructing?




We would have to know what reasons the vehicle was pulled over for and what investigations were happening.

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Subdivision 1.Crime. Whoever intentionally does any of the following may be sentenced as provided in subdivision 2:
(1) obstructs, hinders, or prevents the lawful execution of any legal process, civil or criminal, or apprehension of another on a charge or conviction of a criminal offense;

(2) obstructs, resists, or interferes with a peace officer while the officer is engaged in the performance of official duties;

(3) interferes with or obstructs a firefighter while the firefighter is engaged in the performance of official duties;

(4) interferes with or obstructs a member of an ambulance service personnel crew, as defined in section 144E.001, subdivision 3a, who is providing, or attempting to provide, emergency care; or

(5) by force or threat of force endeavors to obstruct any employee of the Department of Revenue while the employee is lawfully engaged in the performance of official duties for the purpose of deterring or interfering with the performance of those duties.




:shrug:


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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Re: Nisswa mayor's arrest for obstruction, disorderly conduct caught on video [Re: HamHead]
    #26919064 - 09/05/20 10:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I've worked for a city before and the mayor of the city is the ultimate boss, he signs off on what the police make in his jurisdiction etc, he decides what the police do, like take Oregon for example, the mayor controlled when the police got to decide when the police got to decide at what moment the protest became a riot, which happened after the mayor got some shit thrown at him personally lol,

When I worked for a city I answered ultimately to the mayor, so did the police. Now since it is a highway from what I can tell, these police must have been highway patrol which I guess is federal or something?

Not quite sure but they're on his turf and they even knew he was the mayor based on some of the things they said so they didn't really respect the chain of command here so to speak, sure they may answer to a federal authority but if you are on the highway crossing through the mayors turf they should at least answer his questions.

Like this mayor seemed pretty legit and wanted to know what they're doing there in his city doing some bullshit.


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Everything I have ever said is total bogus bs I am full of crud therefore everything I say should never be taken literal.

And I am mentally unstable.


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Re: Nisswa mayor's arrest for obstruction, disorderly conduct caught on video [Re: budmanman]
    #26919132 - 09/05/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

And the cops could have just ignored him instead they chose to escalate. Highways are typically state police.


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Re: Nisswa mayor's arrest for obstruction, disorderly conduct caught on video [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26919669 - 09/05/20 04:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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And the cops could have just ignored him instead they chose to escalate. Highways are typically state police.




So, when I'm having a conversation with my friends and a belligerent person comes over and starts speaking foul language as this mayor did, we should just ignore him and continue on with our conversation?

What if we have to start talking louder to each other because the belligerent individual is speaking over us?

And it's a traffic stop, for whatever reason for being pulled over. It's not like they could walk away to conduct their police business, like my friends and I.

So, what should be done? Should time be wasted waiting for him to walk away, after multiple commands or request to do so?

And then he came back. And continued to interfere. Then what? More time wasted?

He came back and police escalated enough to put him in custody. Was there harm done? Was his arm broken? He appeared to be smiling in that tiktok video, looked alright to me, definitely not a George Floyd choking.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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