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#26918112 - 09/04/20 07:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Habitat. Se Kansas Wood chips on a dark trail in a park.
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Got a pic?
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Re: Mushroom id [Re: breeg89]
#26918571 - 09/05/20 03:06 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sorry about that
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You found those in Kansas?
Wait for a TI. Somebody is going to be interested in those.
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Re: Mushroom id [Re: lowbrow]
#26919097 - 09/05/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Can you post better pictures, maybe of the caps? The first photo is too shady to see any detail, and the second photo is too blurry to see any detail
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Looks like a woodloving psilocybe. Better pics and spore print would be nice to see.

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Re: Mushroom id [Re: breeg89]
#26919393 - 09/05/20 01:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Is there any dung in the woodchips? Almost look like Panaeolus cyanscens. But definitely get better pics and spore prints. Interesting find for sure
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Unfortunately by the time I made it home they were bent dried out I laid them out for a Spore print One Drop of distilled water on the caps and after about 3 hours I had a very light Spore print dark gray almost black but that very subtle hint of rust color but even the caps ended up bruising. I'll upload those pics tonight after work
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Those look ALOT like panaeolus cyanescens.
I agree with bloody, was there any dung in those wood chips? If those aren't cyans I'd be really surprised. Also....have pan cyans been reported in KS?
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Yea those look to be an interesting Panaeolus. Go back for some fresh ones in a few days and report back with some new photos.
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KentheGromp said: Unfortunately by the time I made it home they were bent dried out I laid them out for a Spore print One Drop of distilled water on the caps and after about 3 hours I had a very light Spore print dark gray almost black but that very subtle hint of rust color but even the caps ended up bruising. I'll upload those pics tonight after work

You need to let print atleast 12 hrs. 24hrs for a really good print
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Those are really cool. Please document these warlocks via digital photography
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Yeah, these are some absolute sorcerers.
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So to answer the dung question. There's a high probability that dung is mixed in with those wood chips. They were deposited after flash flooding. The area is surrounded by farmland cattle grazing land at the very bottom of the hill is where these were found about a hundred and fifty yards away is a highly fertilized ball field the other direction further down the hill about 30 maybe 40 ft is the creek that was flooded what's runs through about cost of 30 miles of wild grazing land. However I did not notice any dung, they were not growing off cow patty or anyting I left several pins that it started and went back today to check on their progress and did not see any at all however it did get a lot hotter this morning and afternoon I will definitely check out the patch again tomorrow and after the next rains.
Thank you guys for all your support and time I really do appreciate the kind and quick response I'll surely Bring the actual digital camera with me instead of this $30 4 megapixel smartphone just to make it a bit easier for you guys
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There's a good possibility it could be cyans but there's a good possibility of you discovering an unidentified species too! Take alot of in situ pics man! If you think you took too many....take some more. We'll all be here waiting to see what this becomes so pleeeaaaassseeee keep us updated dude!!!!
According to mushroom observer there's no currently documented finds of cyans in your area. Just wanted to add that
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Hopefully Alan will chime in on these finds. Definitely interested in seeing what these are.
Itd be a good idea to get some specimens dried, good spore prints, to send to someone who might be interested in scoping them out too.
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Yeah Ill definitely keep you informed I'm intending on stopping by this late afternoon . Fall is in the air I'm a bit frustrated with the fact that I've found something interesting and not much time left to explore . I don't think I've ever wished for rain before . ever. Now I can't wait Thanx again guys
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So does that mean I should be doubtful they are cyans? Or document them on mushroom observer as a possibility ?
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No, dont be doubtful. Document them on M.O for sure. You may get a faster i.d on them.
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yeah definitely a good idea to post on MO. If cyans, it's interesting. If not cyans, it's interesting.
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Re: Mushroom id [Re: breeg89]
#26921551 - 09/06/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I’ve been hunting for 10+ years and they’d leap to the front of my most interesting things ever found. Real fucking cool
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Stopped by the patch. Just way too dry now 🙁 I saw this same patch a month AGo walked right by it noticed it but there were too many people with me that were in a hurry to stop if I had to estimate I would say there were probably a good 70 to 100. For now I've got to wait for more rain. How long would something like this specific mushrooms lifespan be from pin, to mature , is it worth going and checking the patch first thing in the morning while there's still plenty of dew on the grass or should I wait a couple days and hope for rain?
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wait a day or 2 and pray for rain. Maybe send a PM to Allan and see if he would be interested in them or maybe give some insight on what they are. Just document as much as you can on them.
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What makes this so interesting ? It's not the first mushroom I've overlooked of this type because alot of people have said they don't grow in Kansas what makes Kansas have the reputation of not having actives? Lack of documentation? Lack of research ?
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Please excuse my ignorance. Who is Allen?
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Alan Rockefeller is an esteemed mycologist and a member here on shroomery.
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KentheGromp said: What makes this so interesting ? It's not the first mushroom I've overlooked of this type because alot of people have said they don't grow in Kansas what makes Kansas have the reputation of not having actives? Lack of documentation? Lack of research ?
They are interesting because they are showing blue bruising very heavily. And the fact Pan. cyans havent been documented in your state. Or the fact it could be an undescribed spieces in the Psilocybe geneus. Its probably due to the lack of hunters and/or documentation of the spieces in the state
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This is one of the coolest things I’ve seen in a while. Commenting so I can keep track. I hope OP is able to find more specimens.
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This find is one hell of an anomaly.
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Re: Mushroom id [Re: lowbrow]
#26922460 - 09/07/20 05:58 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It definitely looks like a Panaeolus to me. Pan bisporus maybe?
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Only A Conduit said: It definitely looks like a Panaeolus to me. Pan bisporus maybe?
Its possible, yes. Only way to distinguish beyween the 2 would be microscopic differences in the basidia is 2 spored in bisporus. Hints the name
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I am currently studying the Genus Panaeolus, would you be willing to send me one or two for study? This is an interesting find for your location and should be documented.
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Re: Mushroom id [Re: Doc9151]
#26923599 - 09/07/20 06:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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*HAPPY As Hell He Just Happened To Click on This Post*
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Re: Mushroom id [Re: Doc9151]
#26923871 - 09/07/20 09:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Guys it occurs to me that I studied habitats familiarized myself with enough features, to look back on all the areas I've explored in the past 2 or 3 years and tell you there are definitely more . I do plan on getting these dried remains into the right hands I'm open to any suggestions on how to proceed . I'll keep wondering all the best habits I can find. Maybe science could have something to gain or least create more data to be studied. Can someone give me a brief description of how the process would go so I can prepare myself accordingly and maybe not f*** this up
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Hell yeah they're back!!!
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Those caps have a banding design, that might rule out panaeolus cyanascens.
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Re: Mushroom id [Re: lowbrow]
#26939838 - 09/16/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Those look a lot more like Pan Cincts now
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Spore print , the dark spot on the smaller cap is from the drop of water.
Edited by KentheGromp (09/16/20 10:27 PM)
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I agree those look like Pan Cincts, the spores are so black.
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I’m no Trusted Identifier, but I’d wager those to be Panaeolus cinctulus, or possibly Pan. bisporus
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Re: Mushroom id [Re: lowbrow]
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Same patch... two different fruit cycles why would the ring show more prominent in first pic ? Is it age
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The banding fades as they age.
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Re: Mushroom id [Re: lowbrow]
#26953541 - 09/24/20 09:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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these little boogers popped up in my pan patch no clue what they are. It's been pretty dry really didn't expect anything to be there
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The last pictures are of a different species--possibly Coprinellus.
But what of the original post? Is this no longer "interesting" due to the banding seen on later pics? The originals seemed to have excessive bluing on the caps for them to have been P. Cinctulus.
Just out of curiosity, did you try these out, Ken? Were they potent, as the orig bluing pics suggest?
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It’s the banding that makes them interesting.
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So I was exploring the immediate environment of the patches found earlier this summer..... Sclerotia? I'm almost embarrassed to even post these terrible photos.. sorry guys here is a post on mycotopia I found while researching my quandry https://mycotopia.net/topic/88988-cinctuluscapades/?fromsearch=1
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YES ! Did try them. The fruit. Not the second species of course. I chopped up 1. Gram Dried saturated with about 2 oz of lemon juice, strained into a 20 oz glass of my wife's sweet tea. Informed my wife of the experiment about to take place , and to my complete and utter amazement she asked if she could try it. She drank about a quarter of it I finished the other roughly 3/4. WOW! It came on in small waves feeling Identical to a panic attack. But when I realized I was feeling an effect from the concoction. A wave of pure bliss overtook me for the next 2 hours untill I realized I could fade in and out of some totally immersive .. other place at will. I had total control rode that pony straight into the morning hours had a cup of coffee,reflected, and continued on with my Sunday. My wife. Actually experienced what she called a completely managable threshold feeling with nice visuals and tons of euphoria. This was my first ever experience. I'm super greatfull to have had this amazing experience. My wife and I have never had so much fun. just experiencing life for those 6 hours was life changing.
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