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Messiah of Savants
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Re: What are your methods? [Re: Atticus9]
#26997456 - 10/22/20 07:46 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I took 10g 3-4 times a month for a few years straight years ago alone. Then I took a couple years of no tripping. This last year I have been tripping 14g 2-3 times a month with my girlfriend and we have no intention to stop doing it together any time in the next year probably. I've always tended to always stay home on these doses. My last trip was 15g, 10g after 3 hours, and the extra 5g my gf didn't want another 30 mins after that. That was the most I've done to date and it was really awesome.
I've tried dosing 7-10g twice a week for a few months and I have no real desire to do it that often anymore. It can get exhausting.
Even after breaking for years, when I went back my tolerance still seemed to be greater than the average person. I never get much visuals at all either. Certainly no colors, halos, and movement like my girlfriend. :\
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Atticus9 said: Curious to hear more about possibly inducing schizophrenia in gene traits? I have a sister that is schizophrenic and I’m pretty sure too much LSD/Ecstasy combo unlocked her genetic affinity for that. I really want to microdose for spiritual, migraines and tobacco addiction but now I’m a little nervous. I don’t have any mental disorders or take meds, but there may be a genetic marker in me. Any advice or know research on the subject?
I bet you could pay to have a genetic test done on you to see if you have the gene.
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Atticus9



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Yeah, it sounds like your one of those that certain chemicals metabolize differently in your body therefore it’s harder to get the desired effect. I’m in the health field and I’ve seen a lot of that. There are other things that you can take along with it to provide a synergistic affect to enhance it though. maybe that’s something to research? After all, all of us are part alien right? Ha. Thanks for advice on genetic testing, going to look into that.
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Re: What are your methods? [Re: jay.ach]
#27075533 - 12/06/20 03:34 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I like that dosing sched Definitely when the veil is lowered more!
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rickomalley238
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Messiah of Savants said: I took 10g 3-4 times a month for a few years straight years ago alone. Then I took a couple years of no tripping. This last year I have been tripping 14g 2-3 times a month with my girlfriend and we have no intention to stop doing it together any time in the next year probably. I've always tended to always stay home on these doses. My last trip was 15g, 10g after 3 hours, and the extra 5g my gf didn't want another 30 mins after that. That was the most I've done to date and it was really awesome.
I've tried dosing 7-10g twice a week for a few months and I have no real desire to do it that often anymore. It can get exhausting.
Even after breaking for years, when I went back my tolerance still seemed to be greater than the average person. I never get much visuals at all either. Certainly no colors, halos, and movement like my girlfriend. :\
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Atticus9 said: Curious to hear more about possibly inducing schizophrenia in gene traits? I have a sister that is schizophrenic and I’m pretty sure too much LSD/Ecstasy combo unlocked her genetic affinity for that. I really want to microdose for spiritual, migraines and tobacco addiction but now I’m a little nervous. I don’t have any mental disorders or take meds, but there may be a genetic marker in me. Any advice or know research on the subject?
I bet you could pay to have a genetic test done on you to see if you have the gene.
Just curious but how did you find a girlfriend who is willing to trip such amounts with you? I find that finding a girl with similar interests is so remote let alone with being able to find a girl to go all in like that w you.. sounds like 1 in a million ya know?
How old are you btw? Just curious for reference, if you're uncomfortable maybe you could give me a range?
Cool stuff though
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Messiah of Savants
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rickomalley238 said: Just curious but how did you find a girlfriend who is willing to trip such amounts with you? I find that finding a girl with similar interests is so remote let alone with being able to find a girl to go all in like that w you.. sounds like 1 in a million ya know?
How old are you btw? Just curious for reference, if you're uncomfortable maybe you could give me a range?
Cool stuff though
More like one in a lifetime!
I'm mid 30's. I got extremely lucky to find my girlfriend. We've been together over 5 years now. I hate to be cliche, but I really feel fate brought us together and I'm slightly embarrassed to admit that I actually prayed a lot to meet someone like her after having been in a few relationships with people that were not right for me.
I just so happened to message her on a local people app I had on my phone and about two weeks later we met. She is amazing and we will be together for the rest of our lives. We have very similar interests and ways of thinking about everything. There are so many times when she knows exactly what I'm thinking and vice versa. So much so that it's eerie like we have telepathy together or something. We have a very deep connection and I'm so grateful for her! I've always felt very different from most people and thought I'd never find someone like me, for me. I honestly can't explain how I got so lucky.
She is a trip head too and had her first trip years before me when she was around 17. I had tried growing mushrooms when I was still in high school and failed miserably. It wasn't until years later in college that I actually got to try some. I guess the mushrooms spoke to her like they spoke to me.
I hope everyone gets a chance to experience this type of relationship with someone in their life. It's the most powerful thing I've experienced as a human being.
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rickomalley238 said: Just curious but how did you find a girlfriend who is willing to trip such amounts with you? I find that finding a girl with similar interests is so remote let alone with being able to find a girl to go all in like that w you.. sounds like 1 in a million ya know?
How old are you btw? Just curious for reference, if you're uncomfortable maybe you could give me a range?
Cool stuff though
More like one in a lifetime!
I'm mid 30's. I got extremely lucky to find my girlfriend. We've been together over 5 years now. I hate to be cliche, but I really feel fate brought us together and I'm slightly embarrassed to admit that I actually prayed a lot to meet someone like her after having been in a few relationships with people that were not right for me.
I just so happened to message her on a local people app I had on my phone and about two weeks later we met. She is amazing and we will be together for the rest of our lives. We have very similar interests and ways of thinking about everything. There are so many times when she knows exactly what I'm thinking and vice versa. So much so that it's eerie like we have telepathy together or something. We have a very deep connection and I'm so grateful for her! I've always felt very different from most people and thought I'd never find someone like me, for me. I honestly can't explain how I got so lucky.
She is a trip head too and had her first trip years before me when she was around 17. I had tried growing mushrooms when I was still in high school and failed miserably. It wasn't until years later in college that I actually got to try some. I guess the mushrooms spoke to her like they spoke to me.
I hope everyone gets a chance to experience this type of relationship with someone in their life. It's the most powerful thing I've experienced as a human being.
"Congrats" isn't really the right word, but that's fucking awesome man and I'm happy for you. I'm pretty envious.
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I'm pretty new at this, but I'm happy to share what I'm taking and how it's helping me.
I've had Lyme disease and chronically flaring Epstein Barr virus for over 40 years. About 10 years ago I experienced a major relapse and had to leave my career as a professor due to full disability
The mushrooms I have at present were purchased (dried) and I've ground them up using a coffee grinder.
I've been microdosing for about a year. I take between .6 to .7 grams twice a week (typically Wednesday and Sunday). This is a dose I don't feel, or sometimes feel just a bit. When I do feel it, what I notice is s change in the way my mouth feels. I've taken a gram a few times and that will give me 2-3 hours of a very pleasant, mild trippy feeling. The kind of feeling where I like to sit and watch the sunset and marvel at the world around me. I live in the foothills of the Wasatch Mountains in Utah, so sitting on my porch is a wonderful place to enjoy the shrooms while being close to nature
This microdosing has helped my adrenal function (of course I can't prove cause and effect, but I have been trying for years to improve my adrenal function and the first improvement happened at the same time I started microdosing). Nothing else my ND Lyme so had tried had worked. Thankfully, she's very supportive of psychedelics.
I'd also say I've experienced improvement in my affect. I'm less prone to depression and have an improved sense of well-being.
I did trip once using these same shrooms. I took two grams and spent the afternoon having a conversation with them. It was a great first trip. Low key and very enjoyable.
I don't know what variety they are, but I assume some kind of cube.
Overall, I can say microdosing in this way has been good for my physical, mental and spiritual health. My husband and I are looking forward to doing a nice grow and tripping more thus summer.
Thanks to the resources of this forum we are now empowered to do a grow and escape the clutches of Midwest Mold kits. He tried two grows using their supplies and neither worked out. I was always good in chemistry lab in college and I have faith that I can do a successful grow now that I have good instructions
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I played around with mushrooms a few times in my college days and then largely forgot about them until a couple years ago. Having dealt with depression on and off for most my life I started doing research on psilocybin as a treatment because none of the traditional meds ever did anything but make me feel worse.
With the help of the board I eventually grew my own and started experimenting, paying great attention to set and setting. I started at 1g plus a booster of .5 and then gradually worked my way up to 4g with a 1g booster about 45 min in, most recently. I take them as needed or when I get the itch, maybe every 6-8 weeks, but the frequency has gotten less and less. That said, I could tell my depression was getting better after only my second trip and now it's largely gone entirely. I feel incredibly grateful.
And, @Atticus9 - the medical experts in the psychedelic field are very cautious when there is an immediate family member with a diagnosed mental disorder. If memory serves, if you have a sibling with schizophrenia your chances of developing it are increased by 50%. I would def recommend extreme caution with any psychedelic, especially in large doses
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Re: What are your methods? [Re: silosound]
#27239262 - 03/05/21 06:43 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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PsySounds said: That said, I could tell my depression was getting better after only my second trip and now it's largely gone entirely. I feel incredibly grateful.
It's hearing testimonials such as this that has led me to start investigating how to become a trained/certified psychedelic integration therapist. I have a very similar background to your story (although my first experience with psilocybin came after college as a very young adult) and I can testify to how tripping for healing is completely different from tripping for pleasure. Both sides of the coin are beautiful experiences, don't get me wrong, but to gain more acceptance we need more books like Pollan's "How to Change Your Mind," to help the ignorant and skeptical critics to realize there is genuine, clinically-proven benefit from a guided/assisted experience. Thank you for sharing your story.
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If memory serves, if you have a sibling with schizophrenia your chances of developing it are increased by 50%. I would def recommend extreme caution with any psychedelic, especially in large doses
This would be an immediate indicator for not being accepted into any of the current studies occurring in the US (I'm not sure about the Canadian and European studies). I was worried back in the day when I first started tripping with our mushy friends, that my anxiety disorder might be worsened; but thankfully it has proven quite the opposite.
Once again, thank you for sharing your story, it was very moving.
Peace & Light, S604
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Re: What are your methods? [Re: silosound]
#27239340 - 03/05/21 07:24 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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PsySounds said: I played around with mushrooms a few times in my college days and then largely forgot about them until a couple years ago. Having dealt with depression on and off for most my life I started doing research on psilocybin as a treatment because none of the traditional meds ever did anything but make me feel worse.
With the help of the board I eventually grew my own and started experimenting, paying great attention to set and setting. I started at 1g plus a booster of .5 and then gradually worked my way up to 4g with a 1g booster about 45 min in, most recently. I take them as needed or when I get the itch, maybe every 6-8 weeks, but the frequency has gotten less and less. That said, I could tell my depression was getting better after only my second trip and now it's largely gone entirely. I feel incredibly grateful.
And, @Atticus9 - the medical experts in the psychedelic field are very cautious when there is an immediate family member with a diagnosed mental disorder. If memory serves, if you have a sibling with schizophrenia your chances of developing it are increased by 50%. I would def recommend extreme caution with any psychedelic, especially in large doses
That's an incredible story. Do you mind me asking how long of a break you took after college?
I'm fairly discontent in life but hesitant to trip more than once/year or so due to fears of just, tripping myself out or something and ending up more lost than before. I'm wondering if it's possible I can rewire myself like you with more frequent trips.
Or perhaps my life as a young man in this pandemic with little connections must be addressed/solved before I can feel content.
I don't know.
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silosound


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Re: What are your methods? [Re: Seeker604]
#27239434 - 03/05/21 08:18 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seeker604 said: It's hearing testimonials such as this that has led me to start investigating how to become a trained/certified psychedelic integration therapist. I have a very similar background to your story (although my first experience with psilocybin came after college as a very young adult) and I can testify to how tripping for healing is completely different from tripping for pleasure. Both sides of the coin are beautiful experiences, don't get me wrong, but to gain more acceptance we need more books like Pollan's "How to Change Your Mind," to help the ignorant and skeptical critics to realize there is genuine, clinically-proven benefit from a guided/assisted experience. Thank you for sharing your story.
Thanks for your comments.
It's funny, I looked into certification through CIIS myself, but my background isn't at all related to anything medical and I ultimately decided my talents and efforts could be better put to use in the psychedelic community elsewhere. I did attend a webinar with Sara Gael of MAPS and the Zendo Project on tripsitting a couple weeks back and her words were very encouraging actually. She is of the opinion that in a few years there will be a big need for guides and therapists/integration specialists both with and without a medical background. And of course, there's many people doing the work underground as we speak. I think that that line of work would be very fulfilling. I hope you follow through with it if that's the direction you decide to go.
And, totally agree on Pollan. He's such a great writer and journalist his words are hard to ignore. I recommend his book to everyone.
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Re: What are your methods? [Re: silosound]
#27239441 - 03/05/21 08:23 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seeker604 said: It's hearing testimonials such as this that has led me to start investigating how to become a trained/certified psychedelic integration therapist. I have a very similar background to your story (although my first experience with psilocybin came after college as a very young adult) and I can testify to how tripping for healing is completely different from tripping for pleasure. Both sides of the coin are beautiful experiences, don't get me wrong, but to gain more acceptance we need more books like Pollan's "How to Change Your Mind," to help the ignorant and skeptical critics to realize there is genuine, clinically-proven benefit from a guided/assisted experience. Thank you for sharing your story.
Thanks for your comments.
It's funny, I looked into certification through CIIS myself, but my background isn't at all related to anything medical and I ultimately decided my talents and efforts could be better put to use in the psychedelic community elsewhere. I did attend a webinar with Sara Gael of MAPS and the Zendo Project on tripsitting a couple weeks back and her words were very encouraging actually. She is of the opinion that in a few years there will be a big need for guides and therapists/integration specialists both with and without a medical background. And of course, there's many people doing the work underground as we speak. I think that that line of work would be very fulfilling. I hope you follow through with it if that's the direction you decide to go.
And, totally agree on Pollan. He's such a great writer and journalist his words are hard to ignore. I recommend his book to everyone.
How can one, having graduated college with an unrelated degree, begin to get into such tripsitting/guiding/integration work?
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rickomalley238 said: That's an incredible story. Do you mind me asking how long of a break you took after college?
I'm fairly discontent in life but hesitant to trip more than once/year or so due to fears of just, tripping myself out or something and ending up more lost than before. I'm wondering if it's possible I can rewire myself like you with more frequent trips.
Or perhaps my life as a young man in this pandemic with little connections must be addressed/solved before I can feel content.
I don't know.
The last time I did mushrooms purely for recreation (and like Seeker604, I'm firmly in the camp of there is nothing wrong at all with the responsible use of mushrooms for fun and pleasure) was 2007. So, to answer your question, I guess that's about 13 years give or take. I didn't have a reason for not doing them during that time, and I certainly experimented with other things but for whatever reason they just never crossed my path and I never sought them out.
It was a few years ago that I started hearing more and more chatter about the therapeutic benefits of psilocybin but not until COVID took over that I decided to put all the free time I had to good use. One of those uses was to learn a bit about mycology, and well, here I am.
I know there are some in the medical community who say that as a therapy, psilocybin is more of an older person's drug as it's usually by mid-life that we start to really get stuck and engrained in our ways but I'm not sure I really buy into that. Everyone is different and every case is different.
Like any drug, I do strongly feel that psilocybin isn't a magic, immediate cure all for everyone, but it comes a hell of a lot closer than anything I know of. I don't doubt that part of your issue is situational. COVID sucks and the isolation so many of us are feeling right now sucks too. But that doesn't mean that there isn't more going on with you too. I'm just a rando off the internet so take all this with a grain of salt but I think there is much to be gained for many people through responsible use and unless you have an underlying condition, like a predisposition to a mental disorder, psychedelics are incredibly safe.
I would encourage you to look into some of the resources that are out there related to harm reduction techniques. MAPS is a great start, they can point you towards an integration therapist if you think you're having a hard time processing a difficult journey. Have you read Michael Pollan's book that Seeker604 talked about?
I think if you listen to yourself, and also the mushrooms, and use common sense and are responsible about it you'll be just fine. Don't try and force anything and learn as much as you can about what you are taking. Fortunately there is a ton of info out there today, which wasn't really the case 10 or even 5 years ago. Tripping is an incredibly personal thing and there's not one answer. Some people may do best tripping once a year, some may get more out of once a week.
Start slow, journal, start a daily meditation practice, even if it's only for 10 min in the morning.
Good luck man, and hang in there. You're not alone in how you are feeling right now.
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rickomalley238 said: How can one, having graduated college with an unrelated degree, begin to get into such tripsitting/guiding/integration work?
I could PM you some links later, but go to maps.org and head to their resources page. There’s tons of info there.
Sorry I can't provide more now but I have a 4g journey tonight I need to prepare for.
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Re: What are your methods? [Re: silosound]
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rickomalley238 said: How can one, having graduated college with an unrelated degree, begin to get into such tripsitting/guiding/integration work?
I could PM you some links later, but go to maps.org and head to their resources page. There’s tons of info there.
Sorry I can't provide more now but I have a 4g journey tonight I need to prepare for.
Thanks very much--after reading some MAPS info and researching some, I see some possibilities in my future. Have a great trip.
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Glad you found some helpful info. One thing I did want to pass along was a tip from Sara Gael from the Zendo Project. Her biggest piece of advice for someone wanting to get into the area of tripsitting and/or integration was to find a mentor... which is pretty standard business advice in any field but many people overlook it. At any rate, MAPS has a list of integration specialists all over the world on their website. There might be someone in your area who you could connect with. Also, psychedelic.support is a great site too. Don't forget to look for psychedelic support groups in your area. Most decent size cities have them.
It's obviously much easier to find people who do integration work as there is no direct involvement with any potential illegal substances or activities. Connecting with experienced tripsitters or guides is harder depending on where you live as most of those people are working underground and usually don't openly advertise their services. But in places like Denver or Santa Cruz or Oakland for instance, where mushrooms have been decriminalized it might be easier.
Also, signing up to be a volunteer with MAPS or Zendo Project is a no brainer, because if you get picked up by them you'll immediately get access to a huge community of professionals whose very job is to train others. Good luck!
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