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Re: Why do people act like growing pot is rocket science [Re: ArthurFungarelli]
#26917603 - 09/04/20 02:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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ArthurFungarelli said: Same goes for making wine. I don't know what all these people are doing with their fancy carboys and specific gravity measurements. Just shove some prunes in a bag with a piece of bread, jam it down the toilet for a couple weeks, and boom: wine.
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ArthurFungarelli said: It's a completely apt comparison. You might get perfectly smokable weed by just chucking some seeds in the ground just as you can have perfectly drinkable wine by just letting fruit rot and filtering out the solids (doesn't necessarily have to be in a toilet).
There are varying degrees of quality in either. I'm not against ditch weed or toilet wine, but I'd rather smoke something that looks like someone shook it up in a bag full of sugar.

With solid genetics, tossing a seed into some dirt and just giving it water will do the trick to an extent. It's super easy to just grow the plant, producing high quality flowers/resin is a dif story.
Just like farming entails more than just putting some seed in the ground. Sure it can be done as simply as that, but if one strives for quality flower/smoke there's more to it than that for sure.
It's not rocket science.....it's plant science, soil science, microbiology, chemistry, etc etc etc.
One can go into it as deep as they want. One can just use synthetic/salt based nutes in a bottle and follow the instructions printed on the label and never go into things any deeper than that...Or one can go into organic "living soil" using organic materials and microbes/bacteria/fungi to create a soil that is rich with life that can be used year after year. Compost teas, botanical teas, fermented plant extracts, using things like lactic acid bacteria, etc etc. Understanding what plants need, NPK and micro-nutes...Understanding how plants acquire what they need to grow. Etc etc...one doesn't need to know all of that for the plant to grow, but if one has knowledge of such I feel they can potentially grow better flower than one who just puts seeds in soil and gives it nothing but water and/or some salts.
Knowing how to listen to & read what a plant is saying/showing. Knowing how to identify excesses or deficiencies, knowing how to identify issues with ph. Knowing what different components of nutrition & micro nutes a plant uses at different stages of it's life/development. Knowing what to feed the soil/plant and when.
Then there's pest management and knowing how to deal with all sorts of various issues that might come about. Knowing what is safe and isn't safe to use on the plants.
There's pruning & training/bending/shaping a plant to grow to it's fullest potential. (not difficult, but def is an element to growing a plant to it's highest potential)
Drying and curing is absolutely an art/science and will take a bit to dial in....A proper dry/cure will make a huge difference in the overall quality of the flower & smoke.
Sure almost anyone can just plop a seed into some dirt and give it water and the plant will grow. Growing the plant itself is super simple, cannabis seeds germinate rapidly and grow up quickly with a lot of vigor, it doesn't take much at all to grow a big plant....but growing a plant so that it is producing high quality flowers/resin will take some effort & knowledge (having good genetics goes a long way)....There is certainly an art & science to growing and ending up with the most aromatic, most flavorful, smoothest smoke that has a solid rich high.
The plant will practically grow on its own so as long as it has its roots in a medium and some light & water to work with....but the plant isn't striving to produce the most resinous, most aromatic, most flavorful, most potent dank buds possible, that's where the hand of the grower comes in.
After growing this plant the past few years (outdoors)...I'd say it is a relatively easy & vigorous plant to grow, but there is also an element of science & art and it takes the hand of the grower to dial in and squeeze out the true potential of the plant.
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Re: Why do people act like growing pot is rocket science [Re: openmind] 1
#26917627 - 09/04/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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icetech said: If you want to grow backyard shit weed that's fine... yes the plants will grow..
Some of the best herb I've had has come from my backyard .
Nothing wrong with outdoor/homegrown herb...I find it's some of the best if one knows what they're doing and resides in a good climate.



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Re: Why do people act like growing pot is rocket science [Re: openmind] 1
#26917649 - 09/04/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You have to know how to work with your climate too. I have to specifically pick strains that are done no later than the beginning of October because it gets cold and wet and windy. Without covering them every night, which I have done, there's a lot of potential for mold or frost damage. So most of my plants need to come off in September ideally, really short flower plants. If someone didn't know that and just grabbed whatever seed thinking growing weed is idiot-proof.. they'd be fucked. I'd be crying if I realized I had plants to come off in November. God forbid later.
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Re: Why do people act like growing pot is rocket science [Re: 1314697]
#26917655 - 09/04/20 03:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Man, I was looking at seeds recently. I can't imagine why anyone sells bud. Seeds are apparently where the money is. Those prices are insane.
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Re: Why do people act like growing pot is rocket science [Re: blewmeanie]
#26917656 - 09/04/20 03:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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No doubt. Ive seen some seeds go for $30+ for a single seed! Now thats some high-quality genetics!
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Re: Why do people act like growing pot is rocket science [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
#26917725 - 09/04/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: If there was a strain that had almost no smell at all, I might try growing some outdoors. I don't want to spend a bunch of money on lights and odor control. Also, I just don't have room for even one plant inside.
Northern lights or cindy 99 both are very low odor. I grew a NLxC99 that barely smelled like more than tomatoes, certainly not the skunk bombs everything post-dawg/diesal has been. A true NL should always be low odor, it was bread before carbon filters were invented
Somebody gave me some seeds a few years back that were supposed to have come from some breeder. Supposedly it's some really good shit, but high odor. I don't have a safe address to send seeds, or I would probably be growing some low odor autoflowering strain by now.
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Re: Why do people act like growing pot is rocket science [Re: openmind] 1
#26917732 - 09/04/20 04:10 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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openmind said:
Some of the best herb I've had has come from my backyard .
Always makes me happy to hear a thing like this. Whether itys weed or cactus, salvia or shrooms or whatever, homegrown is well grown!
Its wonderful when people have the knack to grow, extract or synth psychoactives.
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Re: Why do people act like growing pot is rocket science [Re: blewmeanie]
#26917752 - 09/04/20 04:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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blewmeanie said: Man, I was looking at seeds recently. I can't imagine why anyone sells bud. Seeds are apparently where the money is. Those prices are insane. 
There was a time where people paid big bucks just for a proven clone. The rise of "selfing" eroded that as some clone lines came out as seeds diluting things in the process
$30 a seed is silly, that said I have always fantised about spending a grand on 100-150 seeds of something like skunk #1 or neville's haze to grow out and select a real nice specimen for cloning and a male for studding. Seeing dj short is producing seeds again i might fancy selecting a blue berry and a skunk #1 to mate and grow out and pick a winner. Or i can just find that skunkleberry cut was floating around the northeast for a minute
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Re: Why do people act like growing pot is rocket science [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
#26917781 - 09/04/20 04:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is the legality of seeds the same as with buds? I live next door to the DEA office, and I'd love to ride by and toss an handful of seeds into the little flowerbed they have out front.
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Re: Why do people act like growing pot is rocket science [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#26917798 - 09/04/20 04:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yep, the one plant I posted smelled pretty strong, it was glorious!
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Re: Why do people act like growing pot is rocket science [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26917802 - 09/04/20 04:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Check it out: https://www.quora.com/How-big-is-the-biggest-marijuana-plant-ever
This plant is genetically modified to stay young for decades by keeping it locked in the flowering stage. Allegedly “in warmer climatic regions of world where frost is rare, she’ll produce buds year round”.[1]
The original mother was planted in a green house in British Columbia in late spring of 2005, and is still producing buds. As of December 2017 she had produced 38.2 pounds, and as of 2018 she was 34’ 10” tall.[2]
34 feet tall.
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Re: Why do people act like growing pot is rocket science [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26917861 - 09/04/20 05:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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That is a damn tree. Had no clue they could get that big.
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Re: Why do people act like growing pot is rocket science [Re: Marmie] 1
#26917875 - 09/04/20 05:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Marmie said: Thats like saying why eat healthy when you can live off of fast food. I grow weed for a living and the strains defanitly make a huge dif, and ofcourse they can grow off a bare minimum food program, but if your gonna invest in growing weed ( not a cheap endeavour) do it right n get the biggest bang for ur buck instead of cuttin corners n gettin alright weed
Stupid fucking post op
I GrOW fOr A LiViNg, we're having a good discussion here and everyone is sharing their experiences and opinions. Just because you disagree doesn't make it "a stupid fucking post". Chill out
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Re: Why do people act like growing pot is rocket science [Re: 1314697]
#26917894 - 09/04/20 05:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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No fighting or arguing we all do how we like... nothing hard about any of it though, growing shrooms is much more like rocket science than weed... well.. steeper learning for sure at least.
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Re: Why do people act like growing pot is rocket science [Re: icetech]
#26919037 - 09/05/20 10:38 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah growing shrooms is not nearly as easy,I've tried once and failed. Need to give it another go
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Re: Why do people act like growing pot is rocket science [Re: 1314697]
#26919077 - 09/05/20 11:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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131 growing shrooms is WAY more fun than weed.. that's for sure:) just takes some practice and figuring which teks are crap.
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Re: Why do people act like growing pot is rocket science [Re: icetech]
#26919780 - 09/05/20 05:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I tried with a spawn bag once and it got about 3/4 colonized and then started to smell like straight death and I guess got contaminated or maybe too hot. I need to give it a shot this winter when temp inside is controllable
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