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The Ecstatic
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence]
#26917677 - 09/04/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Communists aren’t demanding entire ethnicities be wiped from the planet so yeah I’d say there’s a moral distinction there.
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Billy Ray
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: The Ecstatic] 2
#26917724 - 09/04/20 04:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Communists aren’t demanding entire ethnicities be wiped from the planet so yeah I’d say there’s a moral distinction there.
You just said a person who was murdered wasn’t a person and now you’re talking about moral distinctions.
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The Influence
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#26917744 - 09/04/20 04:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Communists aren’t demanding entire ethnicities be wiped from the planet so yeah I’d say there’s a moral distinction there.
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Eminence



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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#26917757 - 09/04/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Communists aren’t demanding entire ethnicities be wiped from the planet so yeah I’d say there’s a moral distinction there.
You're fucking delusional, just like Michael Do you think all the non "white" republicans or libertarians or even democrats voting for Trump are also planning on helping exterminate entire races of people? You're completely insane. And obviously you know it wasn't self defense so you dehumanize and make absurd claims to justify him just walking up to and murdering a guy who was right outside his own home.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence] 1
#26917810 - 09/04/20 04:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: The Influence]
#26917882 - 09/04/20 05:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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looks like a pretty small county
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: The Influence]
#26917987 - 09/04/20 06:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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For the record, dehumanization of humans is never appropriate. You can believe that direct violence is necessary to confront fascists, but they're still human and we do ourselves a disservice if we ever let ourselves forget that.
But I have more to say,
It looks like, after years of hearing about bike locks and milkshakes, the USA has it's first homicide by an antifascist in at least a couple decades. Despite the fact that, while waiting for this homicide to finally occur, we've seen numerous far-right attacks occur - including the Portland train attack, the Charlottesville car attack, the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting, and the El Paso shooing (not an exhaustive list) - you should expect this instance to be used as an excuse to further accelerate things. Just look at this shift in rhetoric:
August 2016, when a fascist drove their vehicle into a crowd of protesters, we got this: "We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides." Four years later, when an antifascist shot an armed member of Patriot Prayer in far murkier circumstances, we get this: "Rest In Peace Jay!" and "GREAT PATRIOTS!"
That's a long fall in a short time.
In Michael Reinoehl's Vice interview, he stated that he had not turned himself in because he believed right-wing protesters were collaborating with police, who will not protect him or his family. There is significant evidence to support this claim based on the history of Patriot Prayer and Proud Boy agitation in the Portland area (exhibit 1, exhibit 2, exhibit 3). Hours later, he would be shot dead by police - conveniently, police are unaware of there being any body camera recordings. I would say that something like this would erode public trust in the police, but I doubt much of that remains anymore.
From police all the way up to your president, the message has been sent loud and clear in the past couple weeks: fascist street violence will be tolerated and even celebrated - antifascist street violence will be met with overpowering force. I don't see how this can possibly end well heading into what will undoubtedly be a turbulent election.
Worth the watch - I'm glad he got to state his side before the police assassination -
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MadMuncher]
#26917998 - 09/04/20 06:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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MadMuncher said: looks like a pretty small county

And are they all necessarily racial and police justice protesters? Here's at least two from Missouri who aren't: Blue Lives Matter supporters arrested with slew of firearms outside Kenosha after police received tip about possible shooting, DOJ says
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: shivas.wisdom] 1
#26918025 - 09/04/20 07:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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How many fucking times do you need to be shown the murder victims directly related to "anti fascists"? Do they not count because they're not talked about for weeks or months by MSM? You can't say there has only been one murder because this guy was filmed blatantly murdering a guy with no chance of passing for self defense. Did you see my long post the other day about all the people who've been killed due to the shit Antifa and blm are pulling? Is your definition of Antifa highly different from everyone else's? Also, what determines who should be targeted for violence? A MAGA hat?
And police assassination? Haha. The dude opened fire and people in the area were saying they heard dozens of rounds coming from HIM. His own sister even said he was always violent and impulsive. He also said in that interview something like "when I see people waving american flags, I think they're out to get me." The dudes a paranoid delusional idiot. Of course he said the police were working with them. Even though right wing extremists have also been killed by police.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence] 1
#26918032 - 09/04/20 07:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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We need more violent and impulsive leftists to keep the cops and the MAGAs in line.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Kryptos]
#26918033 - 09/04/20 07:10 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good luck with that then. Look how it turned out for this idiot. Gonna need some violent and impulsive anti-communists to help the innocent people targeted by them as well I suppose.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence]
#26918035 - 09/04/20 07:12 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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My definition of "Antifa" is antifascist. I saw your post - the only accusation that holds any water is Michael Reinoehl. Conversely, are you bothered by the (non-exhaustive) list of murder victims directly related to fascists?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: shivas.wisdom] 3
#26918039 - 09/04/20 07:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Explain how none of the other mentions hold any water. And you're assuming I'm okay with innocent people being targeted by far right anyone. You on the other hand, can't even admit that innocent people are targeted by nut job communists.
God damn, the more I talk to you people the more thankful I am for Rittenhouse.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence]
#26918050 - 09/04/20 07:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eminence said: God damn, the more I talk to you people the more thankful I am for Rittenhouse.
If he gets off and is assassinated, I'd buy the shooter a beer.
We need more left wing vigilante violence to balance it out.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Kryptos] 1
#26918059 - 09/04/20 07:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You'd buy the Antifa shooter a beer just for targeting a Trump supporter. You're not saying anything I don't already know about you people.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence] 2
#26918061 - 09/04/20 07:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes. I'd buy an antifa shooter a beer for murdering trump supporters. This is the conclusion I have come to after watching MAGA hats murder innocent people over the years.
The way I see it, killing MAGA hats isn't murder, it's pest control. Just like putting out poison for cockroaches. Something you just gotta do when the infestation starts to spread.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence]
#26918066 - 09/04/20 07:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eminence said: Explain how none of the other mentions hold any water. And you're assuming I'm okay with innocent people being targeted by far right anyone. You on the other hand, can't even admit that innocent people are targeted by nut job communists.
God damn, the more I talk to you people the more thankful I am for Rittenhouse.
You’re thankful for a guy who murdered two people in cold blood. No shame.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Kryptos]
#26918068 - 09/04/20 07:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Glad you're honest now. I was getting tired if the bullshit mental gymnastics and gaslighting and wordplay. Why don't you do it yourself though?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
#26918075 - 09/04/20 07:30 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Haha. Look at the comments I replied to. It's taken this long, but I'm finally going to have to put you on ignore. And no, I'm thankful for Rittenhouse for taking out the trash that was lighting the town on fire and attacking innocent people, and then him simply for putting out a fire near a gas station. He maybe should've let them blow themselves up, in hindsight. Goodbye forever Koods. This site is going to be much better without seeing your posts anymore.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence]
#26918085 - 09/04/20 07:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eminence said: Explain how none of the other mentions hold any water. And you're assuming I'm okay with innocent people being targeted by far right anyone. You on the other hand, can't even admit that innocent people are targeted by nut job communists.
God damn, the more I talk to you people the more thankful I am for Rittenhouse.
A lot people are not there. They're taken over by an ideology and can't think for themselves anymore. A person familiar with the ideology can predict where these people stand on issues and that person will be correct most every time because these people don't think for themselves. They're predictable.
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