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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: MadHatter333]
#26923891 - 09/07/20 09:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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MadHatter333 said: Looks like your surface got matted to me. Did you mist to heavy and then it dried out? When you mist do you just do a light misting over the top and let it fall on your surface? Are the shrooms still growing or did they stall?
I haven't been misting. I Only mist the corner that doesn't stay wet. All other surface stays covered in beads without me having to mist. They are still growing.
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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: BmShroom]
#26923936 - 09/07/20 10:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Should be fine than. Just keep doing what you’re doing. Mushrooms will grow how they please based on genetics and conditions of your tub. Think you’re on the right track
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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: MadHatter333]
#26924163 - 09/08/20 06:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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MadHatter333 said: Should be fine than. Just keep doing what you’re doing. Mushrooms will grow how they please based on genetics and conditions of your tub. Think you’re on the right track
What I don't get is why some of them are curving back onto themselves and also not growing straight up but parallel to the substrate.
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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: BmShroom]
#26924194 - 09/08/20 06:57 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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That sub looks funny to me. On the pics of the sides you can see how to myc didn’t jump off the grains very well, which usually happens with bacterial spawn. And that corner is bruising but maybe not from drying out, there might be something nasty taking shape there.
That could explain the unhappy looking mushrooms but maybe it is an air thing idk. People seem to do okay with unmodified tubs though and my shoe boxes work okay even with the lids latched.
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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: BmShroom]
#26924198 - 09/08/20 07:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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MadHatter333 said: Just be patient and let it evaporate by itself. Next time add a 1/4 inch top layer at spawn to cover your grains.
Well, I was following Bod's Tek where he doesn't cover his grains. Should I cover with coir or verm?
We all have our ways of doing things. Only, some ppls ways work a lot better than other ppls ways. 
I recommend using some substrate to case your grains.
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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: LotKid]
#26924298 - 09/08/20 08:40 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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ya for sure top layer is always a must for me also
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Roger Clemency said: That sub looks funny to me. On the pics of the sides you can see how to myc didn’t jump off the grains very well, which usually happens with bacterial spawn. And that corner is bruising but maybe not from drying out, there might be something nasty taking shape there.
That could explain the unhappy looking mushrooms but maybe it is an air thing idk. People seem to do okay with unmodified tubs though and my shoe boxes work okay even with the lids latched.
What would the side of the tub look like when myc has no issues with "jumping off"? Do you have a pic to share?
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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: BmShroom]
#26926016 - 09/09/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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is there any difference in meaning and use of:
"top layer" and "casing layer"
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In my experience shrooms that grow long and skinny are stretching for air.
On my monotubs I use one layer of MP tape on the bottom 4 holes and none on the top 2.
It seems to be working well so far.
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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: BLINKfan420]
#26926164 - 09/09/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don’t have many side pics I realized but this is a good one 
It’s the even whitening all around that I like to see.
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Roger Clemency said: I don’t have many side pics I realized but this is a good one 
It’s the even whitening all around that I like to see.
Yea here is the bottom of the tub. Doesn't look as white, but not too bad? Also I didn't have any metabolites show up, as I have before. I thought those definitely would show if myc was battling bacteria.
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smalltalk_canceled said: is there any difference in meaning and use of:
"top layer" and "casing layer"
Nah. It means the same thing.
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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: LotKid]
#26927706 - 09/10/20 06:46 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Aww shit. Now a days it does seem as if they’re totally interchangeable. Back in my day a top layer was when you added a layer of your same bulk sub on top at spawning. A casing is when you use a different material (usually peat based) and apply around 80-100%
I guess it still matters in a way because I think all tubs should have a top layer, but you don’t necessarily need to case. You don’t need the top layer either but it makes me feel grossed out when I see exposed grains. Not from a contaminant standpoint it just seems to make a less than ideal fruiting surface and doesn’t look good.
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Top layer is casing. Doesnt matter if you use "sub" or prep a casing of a different material. It's still doing the same job.
I wont speak for everyone but.... casing gets me much better pinsets.
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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: LotKid]
#26928007 - 09/10/20 10:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree. Ran my first shoeboxes without a top layer and mostly got side pins and sad top fruits. After I started using 1/4inch top layers at spawn I was getting wall to wall shoeboxes. Wish we could change BOD’s mind on them for his mono tub Tek so noobs don’t get the wrong idea about top layers. Who knows though? To each their own
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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: MadHatter333] 1
#26928801 - 09/10/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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2 guys disagree in the house of shroom; now to determinate who is the rightest the experienced guys clap their hands while the new blood pummel each other on the anus cutting each other bloody tiger stripes with their custom fitted scalpel blades,
its doom; its the 90s its deathmatch last man standing all over again
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Okay. You hear that noobs?! Get to pummeling each other in the anus!
Edited by LotKid (09/11/20 10:07 AM)
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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: LotKid]
#26929474 - 09/11/20 07:21 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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LotKid said: Okay. You here that noobs?! Get to pummeling each other in the anus! 
I've been to prison. I know how to party.
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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: Doctor Mario]
#26929641 - 09/11/20 09:46 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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So have I, unfortunelty.
Not sure what that has to do with partying, tho.

Way better parties on the outside.
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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: LotKid]
#26929663 - 09/11/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Depends what kind of parties you like I suppose. I prefer them on the outside myself.
Small talk ..you craze.
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