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Leave the monotub lid latched?
    #26917660 - 09/04/20 03:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Noob question (I really tried different combinations of search words) I made a tub from Spitball's tek. I have about 10 pins showing now. Should I have the lid tightly latched since I have 6 holes covered with micropore tape?

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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: BmShroom]
    #26917678 - 09/04/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I’d gradually increase FAE by removing some MP tape from a couple of the holes. I don’t run monos so I’m not exactly sure if removing the top or bottom MP tape coverings is best at first. Search around some more and maybe someone else will know.


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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: MadHatter333]
    #26917705 - 09/04/20 03:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

what does the tek say to do🤷🏼 or dont it?


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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: jcm4620]
    #26917729 - 09/04/20 04:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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what does the tek say to do🤷🏼 or dont it?



There's no mention of how the lid should be.
Reason I went to drill holes is because I  followed Bod's unmodified tub tek, it colonized just fine but now the pins are falling over. The lid was flipped over of course, no holes. Reading the forum the pins are falling over due to insufficient FAE. So I drilled holes and covered with MP tape and latched the lid. As I understand that is the way to go, but wasn't 100% sure.


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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: BmShroom]
    #26917754 - 09/04/20 04:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

well again id say u need to post pics cuz bods unmodded tubs work just fine i have several of them and ive never had an issue. so im guessing u didnt follow the tek to a T then. but take some pics and post them so we can actually make sure its healthy in the first place cuz lack of fae in that tub isnt an issue at all if u follow the tek. there ahould be plenty of fae there with that lid flipped the way it says to do so


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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: jcm4620]
    #26917920 - 09/04/20 06:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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well again id say u need to post pics cuz bods unmodded tubs work just fine i have several of them and ive never had an issue. so im guessing u didnt follow the tek to a T then. but take some pics and post them so we can actually make sure its healthy in the first place cuz lack of fae in that tub isnt an issue at all if u follow the tek. there ahould be plenty of fae there with that lid flipped the way it says to do so




Here they are. Blueish is obviously because of drying out for some reason. May be sub wasn't wet enough in that area. You can also see pins curving. I barely had any metabolites, which was good.



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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: BmShroom]
    #26917942 - 09/04/20 06:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

This will give you a good idea when and how to increase FAE gradually. Your surface is looking a bit matted. Did you mist to heavy or mist at all yet? You want little beads of moisture on the surface so light misting over the top is best if you don’t have droplets. Also you need to give the surface time to evaporate in between misting. Looks like you got knots though so that’s something.


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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: jcm4620]
    #26917948 - 09/04/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

With the lids upside down, did it make an air gap at just the latches or all around the tub? If you weren't getting enough FAE you could have just offset the lid a bit to increase the FAE.


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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #26918019 - 09/04/20 07:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

ok well lets just pretend for a second that that all is fine and your claim was that your fruits were falling over due to lack of fae. but u claim its blue cuz its dry. do you see the conflicting information there? if it got dry u had more fae than u should have. know what i mean. but that dont look 100% colonized to me and it looks as if its trying to throw up fruits in a race to reproduce b4 it loses the  fight.

can u take clearer pics it looks like i see a few different colors in there but its not clear and it looks as if its more or less top myc and not a completely colonized block. just looks off. u have knots and should get at least a few fruits so im not sayim junk it yet or anything but more clear pics would really make it easier to c


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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: MadHatter333]
    #26918103 - 09/04/20 07:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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This will give you a good idea when and how to increase FAE gradually. Your surface is looking a bit matted. Did you mist to heavy or mist at all yet? You want little beads of moisture on the surface so light misting over the top is best if you don’t have droplets. Also you need to give the surface time to evaporate in between misting. Looks like you got knots though so that’s something.




I barely had to mist most of the tub. Water beads were on the whole time... Except that light brown patch in the corner. It just wouldn't stay moist. So are you saying I need to leave the lid off to let it all evaporate? And mist after? I thought it needs 90% RH AND FAE at the same time. That's why I latched the lid and made holes. But yes may be you can't see water beads but there are definitely there.


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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #26918104 - 09/04/20 07:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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With the lids upside down, did it make an air gap at just the latches or all around the tub? If you weren't getting enough FAE you could have just offset the lid a bit to increase the FAE.




It made a gap all the way around during colonization.


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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: jcm4620]
    #26918118 - 09/04/20 07:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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ok well lets just pretend for a second that that all is fine and your claim was that your fruits were falling over due to lack of fae. but u claim its blue cuz its dry. do you see the conflicting information there? if it got dry u had more fae than u should have. know what i mean. but that dont look 100% colonized to me and it looks as if its trying to throw up fruits in a race to reproduce b4 it loses the  fight.

can u take clearer pics it looks like i see a few different colors in there but its not clear and it looks as if its more or less top myc and not a completely colonized block. just looks off. u have knots and should get at least a few fruits so im not sayim junk it yet or anything but more clear pics would really make it easier to c




I see what you mean about dry patch and me saying "there's not enough FAE". But it was just one patch in the corner. The rest had water beads on the whole time. Sooo I don't know what to make of it.

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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: BmShroom]
    #26918843 - 09/05/20 08:44 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Lol no matter what I do - the beads of water won't go away. I just fanned, flipped the lid and I still have holes in the tub for increased airflow.


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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: BmShroom]
    #26918891 - 09/05/20 09:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Just be patient and let it evaporate by itself. Next time add a 1/4 inch top layer at spawn to cover your grains.


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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: MadHatter333]
    #26918980 - 09/05/20 10:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Just be patient and let it evaporate by itself. Next time add a 1/4 inch top layer at spawn to cover your grains.




Well, I was following Bod's Tek where he doesn't cover his grains. Should I cover with coir or verm?


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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: MadHatter333]
    #26918990 - 09/05/20 10:17 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Just be patient and let it evaporate by itself. Next time add a 1/4 inch top layer at spawn to cover your grains.




I just don't want them pins to abort! :frown:

Why are they curving back?



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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: BmShroom]
    #26918991 - 09/05/20 10:17 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

coir and verm same as the sub👍


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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: jcm4620]
    #26919584 - 09/05/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Not sure what you mean by “curving back” but it’s always good to cover your grains and tamp down your edges tight. Post more pics as they progress so we can critique you. Don’t add the layer now because it’s already colonized, just remember for next time.


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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: MadHatter333]
    #26922660 - 09/07/20 08:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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:whathesaid:

Not sure what you mean by “curving back” but it’s always good to cover your grains and tamp down your edges tight. Post more pics as they progress so we can critique you. Don’t add the layer now because it’s already colonized, just remember for next time.




More pics. I had the lid on. I see that FAE is happening, looking at moisture patterned below top holes. But some are almost falling down and some are curved back into the ground.



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Re: Leave the monotub lid latched? [Re: BmShroom]
    #26922677 - 09/07/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Looks like your surface got matted to me. Did you mist to heavy and then it dried out? When you mist do you just do a light misting over the top and let it fall on your surface? Are the shrooms still growing or did they stall?


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