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Lsd duration
    #26916897 - 09/04/20 07:22 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hi folks.

I read on net from people complaining about duration of the lsd. They complain coz is 2 long so they prefer other psy coz they are shorter.

I like lsd coz duration of trip is long and even this is sometimes 2 short for me. 

I dont know why they even do psy experince if they want to get 2 baseline as fast as possible.

I dont understand dmt trip even. In this 10 min i think you cant normally process what you saw. Even terence mckenna said that he couldnt describe dmt trip just from one experience so he gathered all his dmt trip to describe just one. I think in this case is better to do ayahuasca coz in this 4-6 hours you can easy process what you saw in comparison of 10 min.


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Re: Lsd duration [Re: wikeland] * 1
    #26916934 - 09/04/20 07:56 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I like the duration of the peak of an LSD trip, it is several hours long which is enough that I can explore a variety of things very nicely but the rest which isn't all that interesting lingers around for some 10 hours and it gets in the way of sleep also for me and that's the part that I don't appreciate much. My longest LSD trip was 25 hours, I must have got a really potent tab from the corner of a sheet that me and friends got, they didn't trip nearly as hard as I did lol (but I liked it very much for the most part).

I do like the effects of mushrooms more but sadly the peak is perhaps an hour when the effects are most nicest and then things taper off pretty quickly and gradually. I very much appreciate that you're back to normal in the 6 hour span or so, with everything nicely fitting into a day, leaving time for a proper rest also, while with LSD I am not gonna be able to get any proper sleep and the next day will be sort of rough from tiredness.


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Re: Lsd duration [Re: MindMeower] * 2
    #26916956 - 09/04/20 08:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

it's perfect!

each substance is perfect as what it is.

as a neophyte, while exploring the impact of dose, set and setting, you learn also which ones need more time to wind down and that becomes part of your plan.

for short there is salvia or dmt.
for medium there is pot and shrooms.
for intensity (expect to vomit) there are the whole class of psychedelic phenethylamines - eg peyote, and ayahuascas.
for longer duration there are the lysergamides and some other substances which may not be easy to find or worth the trouble (heed warnings about deliriants - devil's trumpet etc.)

LSD and the lysergamides have a very low physical toxicity, although the universal confusion during come up can be accompanied with nausea and or cramps, and this may be noticed with all the psychedelics.

anyway, they are what they are and not other than they are. These days you can order what you want on line for the most part so you should be able to find your way and not be troubled by substances that do not do what you want. In all cases, plan safely, and expect that the tripper who may seem enlightened or in purgatory, is actually subject to sensory overload and mental confusion, it just is that way.


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Re: Lsd duration [Re: MindMeower]
    #26917057 - 09/04/20 09:24 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yea thats why i love lsd. After the peak i usually have movie marathon and i always took it at weekends so not sleeping is not really problem for me.

I agree with you about mushies. I always redose them so i get longer peak and trip (5g + 5g after 30 - 60 min).

Anyone tried bromo-dragonFLY? I read the trip can last 4 days with peak 6-12 hours.


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Re: Lsd duration [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26917069 - 09/04/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I agree that each substance is perfect but i just don't see the point in smoking dmt/salvia coz the trip is so short.

Maybe is great but for this reason i dont see the point in them. Are those folks using this substances just to get fucked up not learning anything from the trip?

I read that with salvia you can get 1 hour trip by chewing leaves and dmt/changa also so this 2 option sounds better for me.


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Re: Lsd duration [Re: wikeland] * 1
    #26917131 - 09/04/20 09:56 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

LSD duration is perfect. Several hours pure psychedelia, and several hours more to reflect and think with still this nice advanced headspace.

Only the restlessness /wakefullness in the end bothers me sometimes. Whenever I dose 150mics or above I'm up for at least 15 more hours, no matter when I dose (I like to dose acid in the morning though).

Mushrooms last as long as acid when combined with syrian rue. Like 4 to 5 hours constant peak effects and another 3 to 4 hours of a slow comedown.
All you need is syrian rue, or isolated harmala alkaloids (it's all legal, and cheap).

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Re: Lsd duration [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26917150 - 09/04/20 10:05 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

didnt u learn anything from your trips? time is RELATIVE...


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Re: Lsd duration [Re: the man]
    #26917181 - 09/04/20 10:25 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Tmie can be relative but there never is enough time during the trip, even when I time travel LOL


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Re: Lsd duration [Re: MindMeower]
    #26917288 - 09/04/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I heard of psylohuasca but never really tried it.. Can get isolate harmalas for cheap so maybe one day i'll try that 2.

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Tmie can be relative but there never is enough time during the trip, even when I time travel LOL




True that xd


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Re: Lsd duration [Re: wikeland]
    #26917408 - 09/04/20 12:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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wikeland said:
I agree that each substance is perfect but i just don't see the point in smoking dmt/salvia coz the trip is so short.

Maybe is great but for this reason i dont see the point in them. Are those folks using this substances just to get fucked up not learning anything from the trip?

I read that with salvia you can get 1 hour trip by chewing leaves and dmt/changa also so this 2 option sounds better for me.



Quite a few of us enjoy salvia as a way to get suddenly reacquainted with the incredible psychedelic world that is always just thinly veiled from ordinary consciousness.
like tuning into a favorite radio station for just a few minutes to hear the voice of a wonderful DJ.
after a salvia session, the psyche feels fantastic.
Maybe not to be trifled with, but short lasting psychedelics like this are wonderful to have around - to use from time to time.


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Re: Lsd duration [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26917456 - 09/04/20 01:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The duration of the experience doesn't really matter as it will quickly be viewed in the rear mirror. Having experience in your memory bank is extremely useful in every day life.

  Like almost getting hit by a car. You will have had an experience that lasted seconds but you will probably carry with you the rest of your life when around traffic.


If you enjoy the extended highs then that's it you enjoy the long duration highs.


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Re: Lsd duration [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26917488 - 09/04/20 01:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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  Like almost getting hit by a car. You will have had an experience that lasted seconds but you will probably carry with you the rest of your life when around traffic.






Here i must disagree. You gave example by getting hit by car but i'll give u my personal experience for example. In the past i was driving really fast and several times i almost crashed in other car or hit someone. It didn't learned me a thing i was driving like i was before until i crashed in some guy on the bike. Guy flied about 3m in the air i was driving almost 100km/h when i hit him. The man luckily survived and for 3 days i was like in nightmare hoping he'll not die coz of me and in this event i realized that driving like mad is not ok. Now i drive like grandpa. So "experience" lasted few days not few seconds like in past events.


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Re: Lsd duration [Re: the man]
    #26917499 - 09/04/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Ooh in time it could have been so much more
The time is precious I know
In time it could have been so much more
The time has nothing to show
because
Time won't give me time and
Time makes lovers feel like they've got something real
But you and me we know
they've got nothing but time
And time won't give me time,
won't give me time (time, time, time)


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Re: Lsd duration [Re: wikeland]
    #26917516 - 09/04/20 01:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

We are definitely talking about reasoning adults here. If you acted dumb in the past well you clearly learned from that but the lessons where there whether you paid attention or not. Just like a dmt flash.

  You are detailing two different experiences. One is you hit some one. That lasted seconds. Then the fear of killing someone is a second experience.

  To negate an experience because it's too short is not a good way of thinking about things. You won't have a bite of cake because you can't have it all?


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Re: Lsd duration [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26917644 - 09/04/20 03:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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  You are detailing two different experiences. One is you hit some one. That lasted seconds. Then the fear of killing someone is a second experience.





yes that lasted seconds but i weren't learn nothing from this crash if that fear of killing someone wasn't present which lasted days. Ok smoking dmt can maybe learn you something in those minutes (i read some think we're in simulation or this dmt world is afterlife where you meet entities (ancestors) or so can i explain from trip reports. Feeling of already been there and entities happy to see you from being away for long etc. But this is just useless. I prefer learning of useful things in this life which with dmt i didn't notice not one report unless is drank in ayahuasca which lasts 4-6 hours not minutes.

I just love learning and do psy for this and NEVER just to get high. So no from cake side i would not eat a BITE of cake just 2 have taste of it. It must fed me! Just like psys must feed my brain not just simply to get high.

See my point? I think those short trip just don't have time 2 learn you something useful for this life which i love.


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Re: Lsd duration [Re: wikeland]
    #26917687 - 09/04/20 03:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Do you not realize what you are saying?
If you had not placed someone's life in danger then you would have not learned anything. That's an issue with you not being aware enough and needing something grand to grab your attention. 

  One doesn't need to be in an accident to understand the dangers of driving fast in public. You are saying you needed to almost kill someone for you to fully understand. Empathy is an experience that last seconds.


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Re: Lsd duration [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26917721 - 09/04/20 04:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Do you not realize what you are saying?
If you had not placed someone's life in danger then you would have not learned anything. That's an issue with you not being aware enough and needing something grand to grab your attention. 

  One doesn't need to be in an accident to understand the dangers of driving fast in public. You are saying you needed to almost kill someone for you to fully understand. Empathy is an experience that last seconds.




No u dont understand me i was just giving example. Like you're saying i need something grand to teach me this is true now tell me isn't learning in psy experience grand 2? Some things you just cant learn on your own you need something GRAND.
Just like if you are a bad person and someone tells you that. You just don't listen or even try to fight with him but when you do psy it might show you you are a bad person (WHICH IS GRAND) and if you accept this you'll change. Just in my example people were telling me 2 slow down and didn't listen till LIFE SHOWED ME that this isn't good.
Psy learning is GRAND so yes i need GRAND stuff and i just don't find grand stuff in showing me we leave in simulation i just can't do anything about it.
I believe it's beautiful out there but i think that this is only what it is beautiful.


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Re: Lsd duration [Re: wikeland]
    #26918196 - 09/04/20 08:37 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Grandness can be found in the most seemingly mundane things of our life.

If you know how to use your Mind skillfully. 

Grand in a single grain of sand.

Grand in a single universe.

Grand in a single second.

Grand in a single lifetime.

Grand stupidity to realize that one needs not something of a grand event to know that which is obvious to those with a grand Mind.

I live up to my username - sometimes i also want a grand event to make the obvious...well....more obvious!  Because I’ve got a thick skull.  Though it appears to be softening with age! 

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Re: Lsd duration [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26924377 - 09/08/20 09:38 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

they are proper

salvia is so so fine

enhanced mind and visuals and another world

another mental world

like when batman says I am more

the mental state is more

dmt is much much better on other things

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Re: Lsd duration [Re: Ferdinando]
    #26924398 - 09/08/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

In the right hands they can be very helpful tools!


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