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Trippydippydoo
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Coco coir with added nutrients ok?
#26917295 - 09/04/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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So, for some reason finding coir in my country without added trichoderma or mycorizza is a huge pain.
Now i finally found some, but also this one has something added. This time nutrients, Nitrogen, Phosphate and Potassium.
Will this cause any problems for me? My instant thought is no, the more nutes the better right?
My plan is to mix it with verm and do some shoeboxes using some BRF cakes as spawn.
It's my first time doing something other then cakes. But i feel like im ready for it, i got 5 successful grows behind me with contam rates on less then 10%. So i feel like my sterile technique is decent.
Thanks
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xspak
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Personally I would not use the stuff with added nutrients. But maybe wait what a TC has to say about it.
Have you checked places where they sell terrarium coir, for use with tropical terrariums. ? That is usually without additives. The stuff that they sell for plants is often with stuff added.
Edited by xspak (09/04/20 12:09 PM)
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Trippydippydoo
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Re: Coco coir with added nutrients ok? [Re: xspak]
#26917362 - 09/04/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, you are probably right. But as you suggest i think im gonna hope a TC sees this post
I've been everywhere dude. Even on the internet. Sure, i could order some from Amazon, but shipping it and taxing it in my country would make it cost a small fortune. I would be better off sneaking into some farm late night and stealing some horse shit. But tbh i don't want to deal with manure base substrates. Don't wanna stink up my entire appartment pasturizing that crap. Also my landlords would wonder wtf is going on.
Thanks for the answer
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Martinsapin
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Are those chemical nutrients? And do youbknow the concentration? Y
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maxmush
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Re: Coco coir with added nutrients ok? [Re: Martinsapin]
#26917489 - 09/04/20 01:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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You dont want added nutrients in your coir if possible. Im not a TC but my experience has shown that added nutrients can invite contamination.
As Xspak mentioned, you might want to look a pet stores or online pet stores that sell the coco for lizard terrariums if you are having difficulty sourcing the agricultural coco.
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Re: Coco coir with added nutrients ok? [Re: maxmush]
#26917505 - 09/04/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Depends how aseptic you are, by default coir can germinate mold, this is due to its carbon composition (contains phenols such as lignin). Mold can germinate on phenols. So adding nutrients does benefit mycelium (I can guarantee it, depending on amounts added), but will also increase chances of mold-other.
It's the same as adding wheat bran to wood, both wheat bran and wood can germinate mold, hence grow bags for wood-lovers. The starch in wheat bran (and grain), will pretty much germinate anything: plants, bacteria, fungi, so on.
Mostly with coir, or wood, you will see mold, not often bacteria and no yeast (no starch).
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