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Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. 1
#26916499 - 09/03/20 09:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Suspect in Fatal Portland Shooting Is Killed by Officers During Arrest Michael Forest Reinoehl, an antifa supporter, died when law enforcement went to arrest him, four officials said. He was being investigated in the fatal shooting of a member of a far-right group.
SEATTLE — A man being investigated in the fatal shooting of a right-wing activist who was part of a pro-Trump caravan in Portland, Ore., was killed on Thursday night when authorities moved to arrest him, according to three law enforcement officials familiar with the investigation.
The officials said the suspect, Michael Forest Reinoehl, 48, was killed during the encounter in Lacey, Wash., southwest of Seattle, when a federal fugitive task force moved to apprehend him.
An arrest warrant had been issued by the Portland police earlier Thursday, on the same day that Vice News published an interview with Mr. Reinoehl in which he appeared to admit to the shooting, saying, “I had no choice.”
The Portland police had been investigating Saturday’s shooting death of Aaron J. Danielson, one of the supporters of President Trump who came into downtown Portland and clashed with protesters demonstrating against racial injustice and police brutality.
Mr. Reinoehl had been a persistent presence at the demonstrations in Portland over recent weeks, helping the protesters with security and suggesting on social media that the struggle was becoming a war where “there will be casualties.”
“I am 100% ANTIFA all the way!” he posted on Instagram in June, referring to a loose collection of activists that have mobilized to oppose groups they see as fascist or racist. “I am willing to fight for my brothers and sisters! Even if some of them are too ignorant to realize what antifa truly stands for. We do not want violence but we will not run from it either!”
In the Vice interview, Mr. Reinoehl said he acted in self-defense, believing that he and a friend were about to be stabbed. “I could have sat there and watched them kill a friend of mine of color, but I wasn’t going to do that,” he said.
On July 5 during the protests, Mr. Reinoehl was charged with resisting arrest and possession of a loaded firearm, but the case was later dropped. At the end of July, he showed a bloodied arm to a journalist with Bloomberg QuickTake News and said he had been shot while intervening in a fight.
Reese Monson, a leader in the local protest movement who also helps organize security, said all the people who helped with security in Portland, including Mr. Reinoehl, were trained on de-escalation.
“He was excellent at that,” Mr. Monson said.
Mr. Monson said the security designees have been trained to approach potential agitators and politely ask them to leave. They have also been trained on how to conduct physical removals but are cautioned to try to avoid such measures because they can cause things to escalate. Mr. Monson said Mr. Reinoehl would often come over to discuss how to appropriately handle potential agitators.
The night of the shooting began with a large crowd of supporters of Mr. Trump gathering in the suburbs. They planned to drive hundreds of vehicles carrying flags around the highways of Portland, but many of them eventually drove downtown, where protesters have been congregating regularly. Once there, some Trump supporters shot paintballs into the crowd, while people on the streets threw objects back at them. Some fistfights broke out.
As evening turned into night, video appears to show Mr. Danielson, who was wearing a hat with the insignia of the far-right group Patriot Prayer, and Mr. Reinoehl on a street along with a few other people. One person was shouting, “We’ve got a couple right here.”
The man who captured video of the shooting, Justin Dunlap, said it appeared that Mr. Danielson reached to his hip.
“He pulled from his side, just like he was pulling a gun,” Mr. Dunlap said.
But in other video shot during the encounter, someone can be heard flagging that Mr. Danielson was pulling out a can of mace. “He’s macing you, he’s pulling it out,” the person warned.
It appeared from the video that Mr. Danielson sprayed mace just as two gunshots could be heard, and Mr. Danielson went down.
Portland has seen escalating conflicts involving guns over the past few weeks. On Aug. 15, a person allied with right-wing demonstrators fired two shots from his vehicle, the authorities said. A week later, during open clashes on the streets, another right-wing demonstrator pulled out a gun.
Mr. Reinoehl said in his social media posts that he was once in the Army, and hated it, although an Army official said no record of service could be found under his name. In the Bloomberg interview, Mr. Reinoehl described himself as a professional snowboarder and a contractor.
His daughter was on scene during the July interview, and he said she had also been present during the encounter that left his arm bloodied.
“The fact is that she is going to be contributing to running this new country that we’re fighting for,” Mr. Reinoehl said. “And she’s going to learn everything on the street, not by what people have said.”
Mr. Reinoehl’s sister, who asked to remain anonymous because the family has received numerous threatening phone calls in recent days, said police officers asked if screenshots from videos from the night of the shooting looked like her brother. She said they did, but she said she has not seen him since three years ago, when she said family members broke off contact with Mr. Reinoehl after escalating conflicts.
At the beginning of June, in the days after the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis triggered nationwide protests, Mr. Reinoehl began posting about the need for change.
“Things are bad right now and they can only get worse,” he posted on June 3. “But that is how a radical change comes about.”
A few days later, authorities in eastern Oregon reported that Mr. Reinoehl was apparently racing his 17-year-old son as the two were driving in separate vehicles at over 100 miles per hour. Among other violations, authorities cited Mr. Reinoehl with driving under the influence, unlawful possession of a firearm and driving while uninsured.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/03/us/michael-reinoehl-arrest-portland-shooting.html?fbclid=IwAR12d2npcy9t1iL4AoTf6SBPs0ZbhtUPl57BQ_XycaXuzwvmVk0Lp2kwsn8
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: budmanman] 2
#26916568 - 09/03/20 10:56 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The cops should have done everything possible to not kill this guy. The details are not going to matter. This is going to be perceived as a revenge killing. And it probably is.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: budmanman] 1
#26916577 - 09/03/20 11:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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One less extremist.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: koods]
#26916581 - 09/03/20 11:05 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bet he pulled a gun or something else during the arrest. Let's see. But you're probably right, the details probably won't matter.
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#26916644 - 09/04/20 12:25 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: mndfreeze] 1
#26916649 - 09/04/20 12:31 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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mndfreeze said: One less extremist.
Every time the cops kill someone, you’re creating more extremists.
I haven’t seen anything about an arrest warrant, and what the charges are.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Eminence] 2
#26916664 - 09/04/20 12:54 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-alleged-portland-shooter-shot-by-law-enforcement "The suspect reportedly exited his car and fired what was believed to be an assault rifle at the SUVs. Bystanders noted hearing 40 or 50 shots, then officers returned fire, hitting Reinoehl."
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: MadMuncher]
#26916672 - 09/04/20 01:02 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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if he even shot. i doubt he got 40 or 50 shots off at the cops before they shot back
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: koods] 2
#26916674 - 09/04/20 01:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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mndfreeze said: One less extremist.
Every time the cops kill someone, you’re creating more extremists.
I haven’t seen anything about an arrest warrant, and what the charges are.
My statement still stands. Personally I feel extremists on both ends of the spectrum are the problem. Trying to blame only one as the source just ends in a circular argument of finger pointing.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: MadMuncher]
#26916676 - 09/04/20 01:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wait, are you saying "he missed" to imply that he shouldn't be shot if he was shooting like that, only because he missed? That's what it looks like, but I gotta make sure because it's hard to believe that's what you actually mean.
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#26916678 - 09/04/20 01:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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no. maybe he wanted to go out in a blaze of glory. im too high to be posting anymore tonight sorry
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: MadMuncher]
#26916693 - 09/04/20 01:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oregon State Police (OSP) troopers assigned to help the Portland Police Bureau with its response to the city's nightly protests have been cross-deputized by the federal government.
The move actually happened earlier this summer, when state troopers were brought in to help facilitate the departure of federal officers from downtown Portland, according to Gov. Kate Brown's deputy communications director. But the cross-deputization of OSP troopers could allow state police to bypass the Multnomah County District Attorney's Office entirely when it comes to charges against arrested protesters.
On Sunday, Oregon Gov. Kate Brown called on state police and nearby law enforcement departments to assist Portland police with the nightly protests. While OSP has said it will answer the call, the sheriff's offices in Clackamas County and Washington County and the Gresham Police Department have all said they won't send their deputies to help, citing Schmidt's prosecution policies as one of the reasons.
Last night on The Story with Dan Haggerty, KGW's Pat Dooris explained what the move to have the federal government deputize state troopers means for the protests in Portland going forward:
Dooris: This is basically the ground changing under the feet of the protesters.
Haggerty: I'm getting a different vibe from the governor's plan. Yesterday it seemed like a more passive approach.
https://www.kgw.com/mobile/article/news/local/protests/oregon-state-police-troopers-deputized-by-federal-government/283-37a20404-cb6e-4502-9dde-441bff3347a9
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: MadMuncher] 1
#26916734 - 09/04/20 03:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I heard someone make an interesting point about the Portland shooter that I didn't think about because I didn't see the entirety of the video, just the moment right before the shooting and right after since I didn't hear anything about any extra footage outside those times that would change the narrative. But it does seem like the person filming may have known it was going to happen. Cameraman is subtly following the shooter, turns away the camera when the shooter gets near as if to keep his face more hidden, stops on the other side of the street to keep filming as he walks up to the victim and he doesn't even flinch or run away or anything when the shots went off. I could be wrong but the guy is claiming self defense when he walks right up to the guy after hearing "we got a trumper here!" And the man didn't even have a weapon on him, just mace.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Eminence]
#26916895 - 09/04/20 07:22 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Whos claiming self defense? Dudes dead shot by police
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#26916904 - 09/04/20 07:31 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The perp was claiming self-defense. This shit is why I’m worried about the fall/winter. First there’s the Trump supporter shooting the BLM protesters. Now antifa shooting a trump supporter. Seems to me that extremists on both sides are gonna make this country bleed in the coming months.....
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Dark_Star]
#26916933 - 09/04/20 07:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well if he knew it was self defense why didn't he just go peacefully to jail.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: koods]
#26916966 - 09/04/20 08:14 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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#26917071 - 09/04/20 09:31 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Eminence said: Bet he pulled a gun or something else during the arrest. Let's see. But you're probably right, the details probably won't matter.
He did. The NYT is yellow jounalism.
Vice never interviewed him on the shooting. The video they’re referencing is quick time a bloomberg video. It was over a month ago. The NYT didn’t bother to fact check.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Dark_Star]
#26917074 - 09/04/20 09:32 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: The perp was claiming self-defense. This shit is why I’m worried about the fall/winter. First there’s the Trump supporter shooting the BLM protesters. Now antifa shooting a trump supporter. Seems to me that extremists on both sides are gonna make this country bleed in the coming months..... 
The kenosha shooting was self defense, this was murder.
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I stand corrected. Vice colluded with a known fugitive in the United States. They should face charges.
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I stand corrected. Vice colluded with a known fugitive in the United States. They should face charges.
Oh, yeah? Which law did they break?
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Michael Forest Reinoehl Sister says him being shot by police isn't bad news lol
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Colluding with a fugitive, harboring a fugitive.
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The kenosha shooting was self defense, this was murder.
Yeah that’s bullshit. You’re a prime example of someone that’s caught up in partisan bullshit, and will never be able to see through it. Just as bad as the same type of folks on the left. This is obvious to those of us who aren’t fooled by the partisan bullshit
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#26917195 - 09/04/20 10:32 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It’s all on video. Kenosha. Clearly self-defense.
Portland, not so much...
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If a black guy ran around a trump rally parking lot with an assault rifle and then shot people because he thought he was going to get beat up I'm sure you'd be saying the same thing
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An arrest warrant had been issued by the Portland police earlier Thursday, on the same day that Vice News published an interview with Mr. Reinoehl in which he appeared to admit to the shooting, saying, “I had no choice.”
He DID have a choice. He chose, poorly.
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I saw the video, not clearly self-defense. Kid was being chased by a another kid with a skateboard & some others trying to detain him, fell, and chose to shoot. He’s a fucking pussy. Kid chose to go to another state & parade around with a gun like some wannabe Chuck Norris. As for the law & order bullshit he missed the memo that it’s a misdemeanor in Wisconsin for someone under 18 to go armed with a deadly weapon. He was also breaking the curfew just as the protesters were.
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Yup, exactly. These hardcore right-wingers will do all kinds of mental gymnastics to try to justify their bullshit. Same with the hardcore left-wingers that are defending the Portland shooter. Same shit, different side. Neither of those groups are possible to take seriously.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Dark_Star]
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“I am willing to fight for my brothers and sisters! Even if some of them are too ignorant to realize what antifa truly stands for. We do not want violence but we will not run from it either!”
Ummm, yes you did, or you wouldn't be packing a fucking gun at a rally, idiot knucklehead psycho self righteous fucker!
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: tyrannicalrex] 2
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And he did run take the guns away & all the sudden they’re not so brave.....and dude still had his gun, ran anyway. This is a problem that’s everywhere in this country. People are afraid of an ass-beating & jump right to guns. See this every day here in the city. Instead of fighting shit out with their fists, the kids are shooting at each other in the streets. It’s a problem....a huge one.
I’ve never had a problem getting along with people that believe different things. Having different political beliefs doesn’t make someone a bad person. Doesn’t mean there isn’t common ground that can be found. My question is, when is the vitriol going to stop, and when will people sit down & talk shit out instead? It’s not that hard.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Dark_Star]
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Dark_Star said: And he did run take the guns away & all the sudden they’re not so brave.....and dude still had his gun, ran anyway. This is a problem that’s everywhere in this country. People are afraid of an ass-beating & jump right to guns. See this every day here in the city. Instead of fighting shit out with their fists, the kids are shooting at each other in the streets. It’s a problem....a huge one.
I’ve never had a problem getting along with people that believe different things. Having different political beliefs doesn’t make someone a bad person. Doesn’t mean there isn’t common ground that can be found. My question is, when is the vitriol stop, and people sit down & talk shit out instead? It’s not that hard.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: feevers] 1
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feevers said: If a black guy ran around a trump rally parking lot with an assault rifle and then shot people because he thought he was going to get beat up I'm sure you'd be saying the same thing
That’s a fanciful interpretation of events that never happened. Are you taking lessons from koods?
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: lowbrow]
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(Not at you lowbrow, I just like the lyrics with this thread)
The percentage you're paying is too high a price While you're living beyond all your means And the man in the suit has just bought a new car From the profit he's made on your dreams But today you just read that the man was shot dead By a gun that didn't make any noise But it wasn't the bullet that laid him to rest was The low spark of high-heeled boys
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Dark_Star]
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Yup, exactly. These hardcore right-wingers will do all kinds of mental gymnastics to try to justify their bullshit.
It’s on video, he’s clearly defending himself.
Kyle puts out fires
Rosenbaum chases Kyle
Kyle shoots Rosenbaum
Kyle alerts people to fact he shot someone
He starts exiting a hostile situation
Rioters give chase
Kyle falls
Kyle is attacked
man attacking Kyle with deadly object(skateboard) gets shot.
man attempting to shoot kyle gets bicep blown off
Kyle gets up and surrenders to police
Self defense.
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Same with the hardcore left-wingers that are defending the Portland shooter. Same shit, different side.
That’s on video too, it appears to be a clear cut case of murder.
Conflating the two is in error.
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So a kid role-playing militia vigilante, breaking a gun law and a curfew, accused of assaulting others earlier in the night by pointing a weapon at them, murders someone because they made him uncomfortable and threw a plastic bag in his direction, and it's perfectly fine for him to shoot the people who are trying to disarm him and keep him from murdering others, while illegally walking through a crowd with his weapon, after having just murdered someone?

The mental gymnastics are clear: he's on what you perceive to be "your side", so you'll defend him regardless.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: feevers]
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You’ve done no research into this case at all.
The kid was asked by the owner to run security.
Plastic bag guy(Rosenbaum) assaulted him after chasing him down. Probably because he was helping put out fires(pure conjecture on my part). No murder what so ever.
The rioters were trying to kill him, not disarm him. In fact one of the rioters attacking him had a gun in the hand he was shot in.
What kind of special individuals attack a guy with a gun?
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: lowbrow]
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lowbrow said: You’ve done no research into this case at all.
The kid was asked by the owner to run security.
Plastic bag guy(Rosenbaum) assaulted him after chasing him down. Probably because he was helping put out fires(pure conjecture on my part). No murder what so ever.
The rioters were trying to kill him, not disarm him. In fact one of the rioters attacking him had a gun in the hand he was shot in.
What kind of special individuals attack a guy with a gun?
So where was his license to work as an armed security guard in that state? Or do we agree that he was a vigilante?
Where was his free pass to break the open-carry under 18 law? Or do we agree that he is a criminal?
Where is the proof that the guy who threw a plastic bag at him was putting his life in such danger that deadly force was warranted?
Why is the rioter deemed to be an attacker by coming at him with a gun, but you don't deem him an attacker when he's reported to have pointed his gun at people earlier in the night, and had just murdered someone?
Aren't right wingers all for people having guns so that they can take down active shooters like Rittenhouse?
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: feevers]
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lowbrow said: You’ve done no research into this case at all.
The kid was asked by the owner to run security.
Plastic bag guy(Rosenbaum) assaulted him after chasing him down. Probably because he was helping put out fires(pure conjecture on my part). No murder what so ever.
The rioters were trying to kill him, not disarm him. In fact one of the rioters attacking him had a gun in the hand he was shot in.
What kind of special individuals attack a guy with a gun?
So where was his license to work as an armed security guard in that state? Or do we agree that he was a vigilante?
Where was his free pass to break the open-carry under 18 law? Or do we agree that he is a criminal?
Where is the proof that the guy who threw a plastic bag at him was putting his life in such danger that deadly force was warranted?
Why is the rioter deemed to be an attacker by coming at him with a gun, but you don't deem him an attacker when he's reported to have pointed his gun at people earlier in the night, and had just murdered someone?
Aren't right wingers all for people having guns so that they can take down active shooters like Rittenhouse?
Dude its right there in the documents, that the guy tried to grab for his gun and then he shot him 4 times. Go on ahead and read for yourself, obviously watching it on video just wasn't enough for you.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m9sDjYr1Nj_fpFr9bTycWPG8tS2aPDeL/view?fbclid=IwAR3VgSJyMbqjUuMQ6pE_RffmF-gd2qkE6UVWRnXFx97BgDltIYEuJMchHsY
"McGinnis stated that the first round went into the ground and when the second shot went off, the defendant actually had the gun aimed at Rosenbaum. McGinnis stated he did not hear the two exchange any words. McGinnis said that the unarmed guy (Rosenbaum) was trying to get the defendant’s gun. McGinnis demonstrated by extending both of his hands in a quick grabbing motion and did that as a visual on how Rosenbaum tried to reach for the defendant’s gun. Detective Cepress indicates that he asked McGinnis if Rosenbaum had his hands on the gun when the defendant shot. McGinnis said that he definitely made a motion that he was trying to grab the barrel of the gun. McGinnis stated that the defendant pulled it away and then raised it. McGinnis stated that right as they came together, the defendant fired. McGinnis said that when Rosenbaum was shot, he had leaned in (towards the defendant)."
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And was that gun ever aimed at him? In that case it's literally no different than grabbing a knife someone has to your throat, one finger twitch and you'd be dead.
Either way, good luck to a defense attorney arguing that a "motion" to disarm someone of the weapon they were carrying illegally, and are said to have been pointing at others earlier in the night, was worthy of deadly force.
Kid wanted to play superman, now he'll get to play someone's wife in jail. Looks like his family will be millionaires though.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: feevers]
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If you're chasing after someone trying to attack them and you wind up with a knife at your throat that is your own fault.
You don't have to just let people attack you lol
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Dark_Star]
#26917512 - 09/04/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: I saw the video, not clearly self-defense. Kid was being chased by a another kid with a skateboard & some others trying to detain him, fell, and chose to shoot. He’s a fucking pussy. Kid chose to go to another state & parade around with a gun like some wannabe Chuck Norris. As for the law & order bullshit he missed the memo that it’s a misdemeanor in Wisconsin for someone under 18 to go armed with a deadly weapon. He was also breaking the curfew just as the protesters were.
How is it not clear self-defense? The kid was running away from a mob. If they didn't chase him, nobody else gets shot. The mob didn't need to "detain" him. That's not their job, and do you think that's all they would have done if they managed to get a hold of him? Have you seen what happened in Portland when a mob detained someone?
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: feevers]
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He wasn’t a vigilante because he was offering security with the owner’s consent.
Whether he was breaking the open carry law is subject to debate.
Can somebody explain how you throw a plastic bag? The law of physics doesn’t allow it.
Rosenbaum was actively participating in a riot and is therefore a hostile.
The rioter/fake medic is considered an attacker because he is persueing AND attacking.
Calling Rittenhouse an active shooter is an act of disinformation.
Especially considering he attempted to surrender and was in the act of surrendering(supposedly) when he was attacked.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: feevers]
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feevers said: If a black guy ran around a trump rally parking lot with an assault rifle and then shot people because he thought he was going to get beat up I'm sure you'd be saying the same thing
But he never had an assault rifle. He first got attacked because he put out a dumpster fire that Antifa/blm were pushing towards a gas station. This pissed them off and they started chasing and attacking him while one person fired as he had his back turned. Then, the only people he shot were ones attacking him, he ignored the people who were about to attack once they backed away. You can say he messed up by being there with the rifle but if his intent was killing people, he could have killed many more,and he wouldn't have been running away before he shot anyone. And I don't know why "black man" is even a factor in your hypothetical, all the people involved were white lol. There were also multiple witnesses saying it was clearly self defense.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Eminence]
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A black liberal with a gun at a Trump rally just walking around would probably be welcomed and he'd see that maybe they're not so bad and probably join their rally anyway lol.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: budmanman]
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And it isn't even hypothetical its literally happened.
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budmanman said: And it isn't even hypothetical its literally happened.

Hi.
That picture is from a pro-gun rally in virginia in january 2020
See for yourself
And why should a black proponent of responsible firearms ownership not be welcome at a pro-gun rally?
Hes not "a black liberal with a gun at a trump rally" its a pro gunner at a pro gun rally.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Asante]
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Yes it sure was, right at the same time at the same place as a Trump rally.
I didn't hear any Trumpets being upset a black guy with a gun was near them.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: budmanman]
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You all might want to consider that just because someone supports Trump doesn't mean they're against black people, or racist lol.
Like there are a lot of black Trump supporters.
You got caught up in a narrative, sure there are gonna be racist Trump supporters, there are also racist Democrat supporters.
The media controls the narrative.
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Rosenbaum was actively participating in a riot and is therefore a hostile.
So was Rittenhouse
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: koods]
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He was present during the rioting, he wasn't participating. He was the one putting out fires, not starting them. You could say he was breaking curfew but not rioting.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Eminence]
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I don't even know if it's accurate to say he was breaking curfew, given that he was protecting property at the request of the business owners. I don't know much about the law though, so maybe that means you need to be indoors. Not sure. Either way, natural law trumps the laws of men.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: blewmeanie]
#26917857 - 09/04/20 05:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: I saw the video, not clearly self-defense. Kid was being chased by a another kid with a skateboard & some others trying to detain him, fell, and chose to shoot. He’s a fucking pussy. Kid chose to go to another state & parade around with a gun like some wannabe Chuck Norris. As for the law & order bullshit he missed the memo that it’s a misdemeanor in Wisconsin for someone under 18 to go armed with a deadly weapon. He was also breaking the curfew just as the protesters were.
He was already in WI working as a lifeguard that day. The rifle was always in WI as well. But he was gonna get stomped not detained, and the guy who had his bicep shot was in the middle of pulling his pistol too, and apparently expressed regret that he didn't kill him from a distance instead of running up to him. I've been in plenty of fist fights growing up where I did and have no problem either taking or giving an ass beating if it can avoid any deadly weapons. But who knows what will happen when you got multiple people with a mob mentality coming at you.
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He didn't "go to another state" as in traveling to some place he has no connection to. It was 15 minutes away, and his family lives there. He was guarding the place AT THE REQUEST OF THE BUSINESS OWNER.
It's 16 and up to carry a rifle or shotgun. The 18 yo limit is for handguns.
Not only did he not do anything wrong, it was fucking admirable. He won't be convicted of anything, and I hope he sues the shit out of every media company that called him a terrorist and a mass shooter.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: koods]
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Dude goddamn give me a fucking break. How much logic will you throw out the window just to look this fucking ‘holier than thou’?
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: SporeJunkie]
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He was charged with carrying a dangerous weapon as a minor because it’s against the law. You think you know Wisconsin law better than a Wisconsin DA? Anyways the law is very clear. The person who gave him the gun should be charged in accordance with this law too
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: koods]
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Ok? So charge him with a misdemeanor. I saw something the other day stating that under certain conditions that law can basically be bent. However, I can’t remember where I saw that so screw it. In the end though, the kid was protecting himself. Idc how old he is. He may’ve broken that one law. Doesn’t mean he should be charged with murder.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: SporeJunkie]
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The Mayor of Portland is also the police commissioner.
6:10
This interview with Andy Ngo was recorded a year ago..
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Atreyu]
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SporeJunkie said: Ok? So charge him with a misdemeanor. I saw something the other day stating that under certain conditions that law can basically be bent. However, I can’t remember where I saw that so screw it. In the end though, the kid was protecting himself. Idc how old he is. He may’ve broken that one law. Doesn’t mean he should be charged with murder.
He’s was a gun and violence obsessed ticking time bomb. Nearly every picture on his Facebook page he was holding a gun. There’s something wrong with people like that. It’s not that surprising that he turns out to be a violent killer.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: koods]
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Dude so what if people are holding guns in pictures or are even obsessed with guns? I’ll wholeheartedly agree that he shouldn’t have been there. None of these people should have. However, the point still stands that he was defending himself. That’s what matters in this instance.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: SporeJunkie]
#26918071 - 09/04/20 07:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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People who are obsessed with guns are not mentally stable.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: koods]
#26918081 - 09/04/20 07:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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That’s not inherently true and you know it.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Atreyu] 1
#26918086 - 09/04/20 07:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Mayor of Portland is also the police commissioner.
6:10
This interview with Andy Ngo was recorded a year ago..
The part about masks is pretty funny given the current context
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#26918092 - 09/04/20 07:39 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Kryptos and Ecstatic were just supporting the murder of anyone wearing a MAGA hat in another thread, and Koods singled me out directly after those posts for saying the more I hear from people like that the more thankful I am for people like Rittenhouse. I wouldn't bother trying to get Koods to see any kind of reason. He actually got me to ignore him for that, first person in my 10 years here
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#26918150 - 09/04/20 08:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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He's the first person I have ever ignored lol
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: budmanman]
#26918167 - 09/04/20 08:21 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm already liking it better here now. And I'll take that back. I had sheekle on ignore for like three weeks a long time ago
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#26918176 - 09/04/20 08:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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He was another terrible user, glad he is banned.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Eminence]
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Eminence said: Kryptos and Ecstatic were just supporting the murder of anyone wearing a MAGA hat in another thread,
Links please.
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and Koods singled me out directly after those posts for saying the more I hear from people like that the more thankful I am for people like Rittenhouse. I wouldn't bother trying to get Koods to see any kind of reason. He actually got me to ignore him for that, first person in my 10 years here
Welcome to the club. My experience has been a ton better since I ignored him.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: lowbrow]
#26918365 - 09/04/20 10:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Same lol
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: lowbrow]
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His first post in this thread, and continues with him and Kryptos into the next pages. Honestly it's kind of refreshing hearing them finally be clear about their intent. I was getting so bored of all the mind games and gas lighting.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Eminence]
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Eminence said: His first post in this thread, and continues with him and Kryptos into the next pages. Honestly it's kind of refreshing hearing them finally be clear about their intent. I was getting so bored of all the mind games and gas lighting.
You are defending a guy who shot a bunch of unarmed men because he got chased, but you’re upset because I asked if it’s ok to shoot someone if they point a paintball gun at you.
The only people allowed to defend themselves are right wingers. The double standard is clear.
Personally, I think If you kill someone because they scared you, you’re a fucking loser and should be prosecuted.
Would you show me an example of “my intent”
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: koods]
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If the roles were reversed and Kyle had run up on some left wingers hitting them in the head with a skateboard or pulling a pistol and pointing it at their face while other people are swarming them then yes, they’d have every right to defend themselves as he did. That wasn’t the case though. So now we’re here.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: SporeJunkie] 1
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If you bring a gun, illegally according to his age, and someone gets shot... doesn't matter if it was self-defense. You work from the first crime, carrying and brandishing a gun underage, everything from there falls under negligent homicide.
I.E he belongs in jail for a good long while.
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#26918862 - 09/05/20 08:55 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Kryptos said: Shittenhouse doesn't deserve to live.
I hope his whole family is executed for three generations.
Lol this made me laugh. Laugh at how stupid it is.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Ice9]
#26918867 - 09/05/20 08:57 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ice9 said: If you bring a gun, illegally according to his age, and someone gets shot... doesn't matter if it was self-defense. You work from the first crime, carrying and brandishing a gun underage, everything from there falls under negligent homicide.
I.E he belongs in jail for a good long while.
Wrong, and a real lawyer will explain to you why you are wrong.
And if a lawyer explaining it to you isn't enough then maybe a leftist who is butt hurt that he knows he is going to get off who wrote an article will be enough to enlighten you.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/eric-zorn/ct-column-rittenhouse-kenosha-self-defense-zorn-20200903-susvsg45yndn7pb67l42ywnzn4-story.html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true&s=04&fbclid=IwAR12IEuV6FgcRmpdEP7O3reUjDSR3tOGhUOnJWCENfDoDtTqQvbDK2CVyEI
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: budmanman]
#26918958 - 09/05/20 09:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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You people act like the prosecutor doesn’t know the law. Rittenhouse is a violent extremist. Dude wanted to be a cop.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Ice9]
#26918986 - 09/05/20 10:15 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ice9 said: If you bring a gun, illegally according to his age, and someone gets shot... doesn't matter if it was self-defense. You work from the first crime, carrying and brandishing a gun underage, everything from there falls under negligent homicide.
I.E he belongs in jail for a good long while.
Extenuating circumstances. He deserves freedom. But it’s nice of you to chime in with your opinion.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: lowbrow]
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What do we want to bet that somebody here knows the shooter? If he ain’t a member.
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mndfreeze said: My statement still stands. Personally I feel extremists on both ends of the spectrum are the problem. Trying to blame only one as the source just ends in a circular argument of finger pointing.
Yeah that's true but the extremists on the left are far worse. In the United States a hardcore republican is usually a Bible thumper, hates abortion, likes gun's and doesn't believe in free handouts. I would take that over an extreme lefty any day.
Even most Republicans are in favor of legal pot. I believe it's like 70% of the country that wants it legalized now, so yeah you can't even hold that against them anymore....
Have you ever noticed that it's always the younger generation that's on the left? In the 60s,70s,80s,90s and even now. Then once they get older they usually switch sides. It's because the Republicans are more realistic about the world we're living in. Sure they're wrong about religion, healthcare and climate change but other than that they're a lot more realistic than the left.
I was a hardcore Bernie Sanders supporter in my 20's and now I'm in favor of trump. Your political views dramatically change as you get older. If someone would have told me that I was going to be a trump supporter 4 years ago I would have laughed in their face..
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Shenmue]
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Eye for an eye tooth for a tooth.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Shenmue]
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Sorry but they’re right about healthcare too.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Ovoidhunter]
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Ovoidhunter said: Eye for an eye tooth for a tooth.
Sounds like sharia
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: koods]
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Even most Republicans are in favor of legal pot. I believe it's like 70% of the country that wants it legalized now, so yeah you can't even hold that against them anymore....
So why isn’t it?
republicans have blocked full implementation of DC ballot approved legalization for 5 years https://wamu.org/story/19/06/12/absence-of-harris-rider-could-put-d-c-one-step-closer-to-recreational-marijuana-dispensaries/
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When Republicans held the House of Representatives, Harris’ efforts were a huge part of why the District had a gray market for cannabis, despite a 2014 referendum that legalized recreational marijuana. Each year since then, Harris has proposed a rider to an appropriations bill that prevented D.C. from using its locally raised funds to create a tax-and-regulate system for weed. (This was also how he tried to block the implementation of the city’s marijuana decriminalization law, calling it “plain bad policy.”) This amendment has tied local officials’ hands when it came to creating a structure for the dispensaries that other jurisdictions now have in place, and made Harris a foe of local advocates.
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I don't like health care being attached to my job. That is a really stupid system. I'd rather have the government fucking it all up than it being attached to my job, like u get super sick and lose your job so you lose your health care and have to get on government shit anyway.
Kinda broken.
Lets say you and your wife decide to have a baby and are both working full time, then she quits her job to focus on the pregnancy and baby so she loses her health insurance, well you can't just pop her onto yours no you have to wait for the annual enrollment period and if that shit doesn't sink up correctly bam you owe 12,000 or what ever it cost to have a baby even though you had insurance all that time right up until that brief period.
Makes no sense shit shouldn't be attached to your job.
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mndfreeze said: My statement still stands. Personally I feel extremists on both ends of the spectrum are the problem. Trying to blame only one as the source just ends in a circular argument of finger pointing.
But the left is the one rioting and burning shit down. The right is trying to stop it.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: SporeJunkie]
#26919032 - 09/05/20 10:36 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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SporeJunkie said: Sorry but they’re right about healthcare too.
Probably lol. The government would probably fuck up universal healthcare.... We do need to do something though. Health insurance is getting more expensive every year and it's seriously starting to get ridiculous.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: koods]
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koods said: People who are obsessed with guns are not mentally stable.
I guess in your eyes anyone who owns a gun is obsessed and you don't know anything about guns yourself so you jump to conclusions and demonize gun owners no matter the case because of your extreme biases.
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SporeJunkie said: Ok? So charge him with a misdemeanor. I saw something the other day stating that under certain conditions that law can basically be bent. However, I can’t remember where I saw that so screw it. In the end though, the kid was protecting himself. Idc how old he is. He may’ve broken that one law. Doesn’t mean he should be charged with murder.
He’s was a gun and violence obsessed ticking time bomb. Nearly every picture on his Facebook page he was holding a gun. There’s something wrong with people like that. It’s not that surprising that he turns out to be a violent killer.
They suicided themselves pretty much imo. Unlike the trump supporter who just got killed by antifa. Thats what murder looks like just so you understand the difference. Someone who murdered someone because of their political ideology and wasnt a threat vs someone who was forced to murder someone because he was being assaulted and in fear of his life. I'm sure if they had taken his gun and executed him in the street the left would praise them for their heroic actions.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Ovoidhunter]
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wasnt the caravan shooting at the 'antifa'
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They were spraying pepper spray at people and shooting them with frozen paintballs, and vehicular assault. So, yeah. A little more than throwing a plastic bag with a bottle in it.
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If you shoot at anyone that person is entirely justified in shooting you back. End of story.
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Dark_Star said: The perp was claiming self-defense. This shit is why I’m worried about the fall/winter. First there’s the Trump supporter shooting the BLM protesters. Now antifa shooting a trump supporter. Seems to me that extremists on both sides are gonna make this country bleed in the coming months..... 
That's my fear too.
For God's sake people stop making excuses and justifying violence. Lunatics and scumbags don't need your support.
And hey, here's a radical idea, you can oppose a side and some of the people opposing them at the same time.
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cannabinated said: wasnt the caravan shooting at the 'antifa'
no.
By the way, you owe me a five shroom rating.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: SporeJunkie]
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SporeJunkie said: If the roles were reversed and Kyle had run up on some left wingers hitting them in the head with a skateboard or pulling a pistol and pointing it at their face while other people are swarming them then yes, they’d have every right to defend themselves as he did. That wasn’t the case though. So now we’re here.
He went there with a gun to use. It's clear to people without an agenda in real life I know Trump supporters that defend him to the death and see Kyle for what he is, a vigilante murderer that went to what he saw as a threat with a gun to defend the area. He made it clear. He also beat the living daylights outta some young girl and had to be "attacked then too" this was taken before kenosha
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cannabinated said: wasnt the caravan shooting at the 'antifa'
They were spraying pepper spray at people and shooting them with frozen paintballs, and vehicular assault. So, yeah. A little more than throwing a plastic bag with a bottle in it.
They shouldn't have done that, but after a while you get what you give. These rioters have been burning down buildings, throwing molotov cocktails, attempting to maim cops, beating up civilians, and they attempted to burn down a police precinct while trapping police inside.
When you act like an asshole for 90 something straight days, don't be surprised when people respond.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Billy Ray]
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I haven't even been trying to keep score, but a lot of the rioters are right-wing accelerationists and apolitical cretins taking advantage of the chaos. Either way, I don't make much distinction between one group or the other or their motives. Throwing bricks through windows, driving down the street pepper spraying people or shooting them with frozen paintballs, it's all rioting.
Rioting, like war, is an extreme sport. They all just need to accept that what they're doing might get them hurt, and if they get hurt, it's their own dumbass fault.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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I don’t have an agenda. I’m just stating facts and what I see with my own two eyes. If you choose to ignore it then that’s your prerogative.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Baby_Hitler said: I haven't even been trying to keep score, but a lot of the rioters are right-wing accelerationists and apolitical cretins taking advantage of the chaos.
nope. It’s ANTIFA. Im surprised you’d even try to say this.
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Either way, I don't make much distinction between one group or the other or their motives.
sure you dont.
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Throwing bricks through windows,
left team
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driving down the street pepper spraying people or shooting them with frozen paintballs,
right team, though I don’t know about the frozen paintballs, sounds like propaganda.
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it's all rioting.
yes, by far left radicals.
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Rioting, like war, is an extreme sport.
I’d hardly call it a sport, but I did just assign teams to the political players so. But the only ones rioting are the left team. The only ones destroying statues are the left team, and the only ones trying to institute a communist government are the left team.
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They all just need to accept that what they're doing might get them hurt, and if they get hurt, it's their own dumbass fault.
I agree.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: lowbrow]
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It's both hilarious and pathetic how Trump has so many of his simp followers believing there's an A.N.T.I.F.A. behind every bush. There are at least as many Boogaloo Bois rioting, smashing windows and setting fires as there are A.I.N.T.I.F.U.H.S. It's just a matter of time before one of them winds up shooting another on their own team.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#26920104 - 09/05/20 08:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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>it doesn't fit my narrative, therefore it must be an elaborate conspiracy!
point 'em out 
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: blewmeanie]
#26920173 - 09/05/20 09:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've had to remove every ANTIFA member off my facebook feed. Just unfriended them, not blocked and my last DM with them was you are a terrorist lol
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: budmanman]
#26920176 - 09/05/20 09:18 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Jesus fucking Christ just saw 2 paraplegic protesters with shields you have got to be shitting me.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#26920188 - 09/05/20 09:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I guess if you want to play the passive aggressive name game you can, but it shows you’re being misdirective by saying you’re not a leftist when you made the the woke list a while back.
It also shows you’re not worth listening to.
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budmanman said: I've had to remove every ANTIFA member off my facebook feed. Just unfriended them, not blocked and my last DM with them was you are a terrorist lol
I hear ya, but have some patience if you can. I used to be one of those dumb fucking black block idiots back in the 90s, and still have an embarrassing socialist tattoo on my arm to show it.
I don't think it's a coincidence that they're pretty much all middle class (or better) white men. For their entire life society has told them that they're inherently privileged racists without a culture of their own who are from an evil ancestry. 100 percent of media has denigrated their existence for every day of their lives, leaving them without any sense of identity or hope for the future. They're rightfully angry, and looking for their place within society.
That's my perspective anyway. This critical theory shit where every truth is a social construct to be constantly redefined to deconstruct every hierarchy is the most purely evil trap that has ever existed, but I know how easy it is to fall for it, when all you want is a sense of belonging and you don't have the framework to understand what you're longing for.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: blewmeanie] 2
#26920196 - 09/05/20 09:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The shooter is now believed to have been stalking the victim for awhile before the shooting.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: lowbrow]
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It's a shame they weren't able to catch him alive to find out if it was part of an organized plan, or if he was just a psycho. We can only assume the latter for now, but it's hard not to watch all the footage and see an organized effort.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: blewmeanie] 1
#26920205 - 09/05/20 09:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Somebody else was helping him.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: lowbrow]
#26920207 - 09/05/20 09:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It seemed like it, but I don't think we'll know now.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: blewmeanie]
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blewmeanie said: It seemed like it, but I don't think we'll know now.
With the portland pd on the case, not a chance.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: lowbrow]
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: HamHead]
#26920224 - 09/05/20 09:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tim Pool is the man.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Shenmue]
#26920491 - 09/06/20 05:32 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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mndfreeze said: My statement still stands. Personally I feel extremists on both ends of the spectrum are the problem. Trying to blame only one as the source just ends in a circular argument of finger pointing.
Yeah that's true but the extremists on the left are far worse. In the United States a hardcore republican is usually a Bible thumper, hates abortion, likes gun's and doesn't believe in free handouts. I would take that over an extreme lefty any day.
Even most Republicans are in favor of legal pot. I believe it's like 70% of the country that wants it legalized now, so yeah you can't even hold that against them anymore....
Have you ever noticed that it's always the younger generation that's on the left? In the 60s,70s,80s,90s and even now. Then once they get older they usually switch sides. It's because the Republicans are more realistic about the world we're living in. Sure they're wrong about religion, healthcare and climate change but other than that they're a lot more realistic than the left.
I was a hardcore Bernie Sanders supporter in my 20's and now I'm in favor of trump. Your political views dramatically change as you get older. If someone would have told me that I was going to be a trump supporter 4 years ago I would have laughed in their face..
Like I said, circular finger pointing. Thanks for being the example this thread needed.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: lowbrow]
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lowbrow said: I guess if you want to play the passive aggressive name game you can, but it shows you’re being misdirective by saying you’re not a leftist when you made the the woke list a while back. .
WTF is a 'woke list'?
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No, U.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Baby_Hitler] 1
#26920591 - 09/06/20 07:31 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The woke list is a vetted list of woke members of the shroomery. You’re #32 in a list of 50.
You’ve been on it for a minute.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: lowbrow]
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Never heard of it. Sounds like something you made up.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#26920600 - 09/06/20 07:39 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It exists, number 32.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: lowbrow]
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It exists because, as I said, you made it up.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26596481#26596481
Don't expect me to pay rent for the space I'm occupying in your head, sweetcheeks.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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On topic, just checked out Unicorn Riot to see what they have to say on the subject, couldn’t find anything, doesn’t fit their agenda so it wasn’t reported.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: lowbrow]
#26920642 - 09/06/20 08:01 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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lowbrow said: Tim Pool is the man.
He’s a man
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Proud boy run over at vigil for victim. ANTIFA suspected but unconfirmed.
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Re: Suspect who shot Trump supporter in Portland shot dead by police. [Re: lowbrow]
#26920715 - 09/06/20 08:54 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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If he’s a felon, who cares.
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