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Cant get conditions right..
    #26912227 - 09/01/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)



Been stressing me out trying to get these shoeboxes to fruit and having 0 luck then this mono starts pinning only to have the pins start to abort ?

I am having so much difficulty right now...

Spawned 16 qts and nothing is producing or showing good signs. Just fucking failing on me.


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Re: Cant get conditions right.. [Re: Enkidu]
    #26912242 - 09/01/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I don't see much water. Droplets should be covering the surface. A dunk might help as well. How long since you began?


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Re: Cant get conditions right.. [Re: ChRnZN]
    #26912273 - 09/01/20 04:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I think my camera just sucks because people keep saying it looks dry but id anything i think its too wet.

Its covered in beads of water and i almost thought maybe the water is causing them to abort

I think its been about 2 weeks since spawn


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Re: Cant get conditions right.. [Re: Enkidu]
    #26912287 - 09/01/20 04:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe too much FAE/too little humidity?


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Re: Cant get conditions right.. [Re: Enkidu]
    #26912299 - 09/01/20 04:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)



I just took another photo trying to grt better quality

Idk im at a loss.

Idk wtf im doing wrong but i guess its a learning experience..

These tubs have been difficult as fuck for me to get to fruit


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Re: Cant get conditions right.. [Re: Hikeadellic]
    #26912306 - 09/01/20 04:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Hikeadellic said:
Maybe too much FAE/too little humidity?





I dont think thats it because the surface is staying wet without me misting

Seems to me like if anything theres not enough air..


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Re: Cant get conditions right.. [Re: Enkidu]
    #26912326 - 09/01/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Could be. How many grows have you finished before?


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    #26912328 - 09/01/20 04:37 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Cant get conditions right.. [Re: juvec]
    #26912332 - 09/01/20 04:40 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Try a 1/4inch casing at spawning.


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Re: Cant get conditions right.. [Re: Enkidu]
    #26912369 - 09/01/20 04:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm pretty sure the spawn was bacterial. All my bets on it.

Last week I had a tub that also was 2 weeks into birth and wasn't giving pins in spite of being 100% colonized for a good week, until it gave up on me turning green (I had a pretty big Trich contam 3 weeks ago that blew up my whole grow room and didn't know until then, when that tub turnt green and had to think why the fuck that was :sad::mad2:)
Maybe your tub won't turn green because your grow room maybe has little Trichoderma spores floating around, and if it's the case, chances are you will get at least some fruits; once, when I began growing, I had a tub that took 21 days from birth to pin. That clearly was when there wasn't the same quantity of Trich spores in my grow room like now, and the mycelium could grow. Took a blue moon but gave something.
By then I was also struggling with bacteria in the spawn but didn't know because I couldn't recognize the visual difference between the bacterial mycelium and the healthy mycelium. And I'm not talking about those black or colored nasty stuff that everyone can tell, but the type of bacteria that 'invades' or hitch-hikes into the mycelium and the only way to clean it is with antibiotic agar.
Let me illustrate what I'm talking about... Here it is a really good pic I took telling the difference. I took the nastiest jar for the photo. You can see some white 'branches' between the mycelium or even against the glass.  That's the bacteria I'm talking about and gotta pay close attention because it can go undercover, specially if you are managing lots of jars at the same time :rofl:. Sometimes it won't be as easy to spot, but hope it helps for the next runs!


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Re: Cant get conditions right.. [Re: gabbk]
    #26912490 - 09/01/20 05:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Ive grown lbs over a couple years.

Like 10-20 lbs

But i used the same variety the entire time and it performed great.

New variety for me

Its possible the spawn was bacterial but at least 6 were from agar and the rest g2g


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Re: Cant get conditions right.. [Re: Enkidu]
    #26912498 - 09/01/20 06:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

This was my spawn



This was my spawn. 1 pic was after a shale i think and the other was before full colonization

All smelled good

I put some straight verm over some tubs and watered it down, might try with the rest of the tubs

Any ideas on why the fruits i have are aborting ?


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Re: Cant get conditions right.. [Re: Enkidu]
    #26912557 - 09/01/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You sure they are aborting? Maybe they are just slow. What are the temps? How long have all them knots been there?


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Re: Cant get conditions right.. [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26912562 - 09/01/20 06:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Fucking days man. Probably lile 5 days.

Not sure they are aborting but the heads look like theyre turning blue and black..

The temps might be fluctuating a lot. They are not in an ideal location at all.

Im about to go smoke some weed. So much shit going on in my life stressing me the fuck out then having no mushrooms trying to get some in and people waiting and asking..

I shoulda just used some tissue from my old shit and took it to agar. Maybe ill go that route

Its fun to have a challenge but at the same time i would love to just have some fucking mushrooms


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Re: Cant get conditions right.. [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26912565 - 09/01/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

When did you spawn to bulk?  That looks like it's about to pin and take off like any day dude

Edit: ok 14 days I didn't see that part, I think you're gonna be good, fane it a few times a day of that makes you feel better but I think that thing is about to pop off


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Re: Cant get conditions right.. [Re: Enkidu]
    #26912568 - 09/01/20 06:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Give em a few more days. The best thing i have ever done for my conditions is make a proper mono and ditching unmodded ones.
Give em a little more air and make sure you keep an eye on the rh.
Have you ready comebackkid's surface condition write up?
It's gold


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Re: Cant get conditions right.. [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26912679 - 09/01/20 07:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Dude I see knots all over the place your gonna be fine. Lock your Temps down.  Cubes are easy your just running slow for so.e reason


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Re: Cant get conditions right.. [Re: Enkidu]
    #26912694 - 09/01/20 07:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

What temp is it running at? I think dropping it down to 70F would be helpful. And how's your air flow?  If the box is closed, could you have the lid rest on top of the closed latches so it creates a little gap?  Just make sure to keep the walls and lid well wetted with clean water.


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Re: Cant get conditions right.. [Re: Shroomboofer]
    #26916245 - 09/03/20 07:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)



Got some aborts and some pink sub and some tiny ass baby shrooms growin


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Re: Cant get conditions right.. [Re: Enkidu]
    #26916436 - 09/03/20 09:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Tiny ass baby shrooms are the first step to Big Ass super shrooms


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