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Re: Capital punishment, where do you stand? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26938074 - 09/15/20 09:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You might not be cut out for civilization.


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Re: Capital punishment, where do you stand? [Re: Enlil]
    #26938077 - 09/15/20 09:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I am not and I have ranted about it at length. Civilization destroyed us as humans, bro. One big game just a ltittle art project that we are all trapped in the canvas of


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Re: Capital punishment, where do you stand? [Re: Kryptos]
    #26938081 - 09/15/20 09:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Its all by drone and flat-screens, thats ok, but form a conventional line of warfare, well thats ridiculous!


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Re: Capital punishment, where do you stand? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26938103 - 09/15/20 09:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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When it's done to right people.



Killing is easy. The tricky part is deciding who are "the right people".


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Re: Capital punishment, where do you stand? [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
    #26938111 - 09/15/20 10:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Nah both are pretty hard. Lots of things in life are hard.


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Re: Capital punishment, where do you stand? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26938115 - 09/15/20 10:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Killing a person is easier than frying an egg, dude.


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Re: Capital punishment, where do you stand? [Re: Enlil]
    #26938116 - 09/15/20 10:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe for a psycho like you, bruh :nonono:


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Re: Capital punishment, where do you stand? [Re: Near Dylan] * 2
    #26938225 - 09/15/20 11:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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All of us would want someone dead in the right circumstances and imo a lot of those times it is a reasonable response. The concept that no human ever deserves to get killed is just dumb to me. Some people shouldnt be here :shrug: and I dont feel like feeding and housing those people so that they can just chill and I dont have to deal with them. I would rather just have god sort them out and everyone move on




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Nah both are pretty hard. Lots of things in life are hard.




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Maybe for a psycho like you, bruh :nonono:




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Why dont we just fucking shoot people? Like wtf man? Just soviet style execute people. Pop in the back of the head, extra pop when they hit the ground just to be sure. Would cost 2 bullets. That's how i would wanna be executed. Fuck some big ridiculous scientific set-up with gas and electricity and chemical pumps and whatever absurd bullshit. It's so retarded and unnecessary, i swear these prisons are just bored and looking to kil people in the most convuluded way possible. How bout we build a rube goldberg machine that wraps around the prison and ends in a bowling ball dropping on the prisoners head? Lmao just fucking kill them like god damn.




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Re: Capital punishment, where do you stand? [Re: Yeetusdeetus] * 1
    #26938412 - 09/16/20 05:26 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I never got how conservatives wqant to shrink the government yet cheer power abuse by the cops and capital punishment.

"we want as little as possible government with the power to kill without accountability."

Is there any greater infringement on a person's life than ending it?


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Re: Capital punishment, where do you stand? [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #26938605 - 09/16/20 08:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Just because killing someone is not something that is easy for the average human to catch their bearings after doing, doesnt mean it isnt justified in some circumstances. Theres no way youre rlly that confused about that


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Re: Capital punishment, where do you stand? [Re: Near Dylan] * 1
    #26938888 - 09/16/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I don’t understand why you keep insisting that the judicial system is horrible and that too many innocent people are jailed but then turn around and say that we should we stop spending so much on trying to find out if someone is actually guilty. That 4% figure is just gonna rise if you just start splitting people’s heads without a drawn out judicial process.


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Re: Capital punishment, where do you stand? [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #26938906 - 09/16/20 12:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I said neither of those things. I dont care about whatever stupid '4%' statistic youre referring to. Paperwork and bureaucracy. Lame lame lame. Society is bloated, judicial system is example of that. We should fight our own battles period. I dont want a government making any decisions for anybody, dont want lives to be decided by the skill of lawyers at the discretion of judges and a jury. It's dystopian af sci-fi bullshit. Someone fucks with me i should just retaliate but no i have to call a number a uniformed squad of killers to come and kidnap the guy and put us both through this pain in the ass paper-pushing process. Infuriates me lmao.


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Re: Capital punishment, where do you stand? [Re: Yeetusdeetus] * 1
    #26939182 - 09/16/20 02:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I don’t understand why you keep insisting that the judicial system is horrible and that too many innocent people are jailed but then turn around and say that we should we stop spending so much on trying to find out if someone is actually guilty. That 4% figure is just gonna rise if you just start splitting people’s heads without a drawn out judicial process.



This is precisely what I meant when I said earlier that figuring out who "the right people are" is the tricky part. The most difficult part of running a capital punishment system isn't actually doing the executions: it's figuring out who to execute.


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Re: Capital punishment, where do you stand? [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
    #26939406 - 09/16/20 04:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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We should fight our own battles period




Most laymen aren’t qualified enough to correctly identify and confront someone who fucks with them or their family. Say someone’s wife is raped and she points out a similar looking but different guy to her husband, is he just supposed to shoot him? What about the people who don’t have anybody to fight for them?

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I dont want a government making any decisions for anybody, dont want lives to be decided by the skill of lawyers at the discretion of judges and a jury. It's dystopian af sci-fi bullshit.




Would you rather live in a place where murder is sanctioned as long as someone can explain why they had a violent hissy fit?

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Someone fucks with me i should just retaliate but no i have to call a number a uniformed squad of killers to come and kidnap the guy and put us both through this pain in the ass paper-pushing process.




You can retaliate in castle doctrine and stand your ground states. I think every state should have those protections but unfortunately they don’t. That said I’d still rather have cops than undertrained vigilante gangs. Like it or not weaker people will tend to bend the knee to more powerful/violent people. It’s how things have happened all throughout history on every habitable continent. I’m not defending police at all but I’d much rather the goon squads wear body cameras. The system we have sucks but it’s way better than what we’ve had up until this point

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I dont care about whatever stupid '4%' statistic youre referring to.




I guess that’s a fine opinion to have if you don’t mind being included in that statistic:shrug:.


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Re: Capital punishment, where do you stand? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26939752 - 09/16/20 08:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I dont want a government making any decisions for anybody, dont want lives to be decided by the skill of lawyers at the discretion of judges and a jury.




Would you rather lives (including your own) be decided by some random asshole with a gun at the discretion of their own personal brain cockroaches?


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Re: Capital punishment, where do you stand? [Re: Kryptos]
    #26939953 - 09/17/20 12:18 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I would rather it be the discretion of each individual like it's supposed to be. Bloated society and its stupid organization. All of us having to submit to an ultimate power. So fucking lame. Too many people too much paperwork too much bullshit.


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Re: Capital punishment, where do you stand? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26939981 - 09/17/20 01:03 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Killing people? No! Just look at this fucking nut case. Christ sake.


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Re: Capital punishment, where do you stand? [Re: Stable Genius]
    #26940055 - 09/17/20 03:19 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah I would rather it be the discretion of each individual like it's supposed to be. Bloated society and its stupid organization. All of us having to submit to an ultimate power. So fucking lame. Too many people too much paperwork too much bullshit.




Fuck paperwork let’s just abandon all societal developments. I’m gonna start a new gang and we’re gonna rape and pillage every settlement we cross as we roam the states in RVs and dune buggies mad max style :lol:. I’m sure plenty of sick fucks and ex cops will join at their own discretion. Anyone that gets in the way should’ve spent less time worrying about paperwork and more time assembling a militia in the event a bunch of douchebags with automatic weapons rolled through their neck of the woods.


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Re: Capital punishment, where do you stand? [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #26940558 - 09/17/20 11:40 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Now youre getting it.


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Re: Capital punishment, where do you stand? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26940703 - 09/17/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

:rofl:


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