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Cactus tar pellets TEK. No taste, minimal nausea 11
#26913079 - 09/02/20 02:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hi there,
this is a quick pictorial on how to process cactus to create small tar balls /pellets, ready to swallow and easy to store.
The procedure is the following:
- Chop up and boil your cactus for several hours. Add some vinegar or citric acid, to make the solution acidic (optional). - Using multiple different cuttings will homogenize the potency to an average ammount and create a bunch of equal doses. It is a lot of work, so you might want to do this procedure with multipe cuttings, to get several doses in one go. - Repeat boiling a few times, like three times for two hours each minimum, with fresh water each time.
- Filter out the cactus chunks with a common coarse kitchen colander. - Collect the liquids from each boil and reduce to a smaller ammount. - Filter once again with a finer colander.
- Let the brew stand overnight in a big jar. Plantmaterial will settle down to the bottom of the jar. - Carefully decant the clear liquid from above the setteled mud into another jar /pot. - Pour the setteled mud into a smaller jar, add some water and let stand again for a few hours, to repeat decanting the upper liquid to the rest of the brew.
- Reduce the brew to a very small ammount. - Once it gets a slimey sirup -like consistency stop reducing and pour the liquid into a flat dish. - Put the dish into a warm oven to further dry it down to tar. Not too hot, maximum is 180°F / 80°C !
- Take out of the oven before it gets too hard. It is easier to scrape up while it's still hot and soft. Once it cools down it gets rock hard and a mess to scrape. You can re-heat and /or re-hydrate it anytime to make it soft again, though. - Scrape it all up and unite it to one big chunk of tar.
- Powdered sugar helps a lot with the stickiness.
- Weigh your tar to get an impression of dosage. - One foot of cactus is considered a mild to medium dose. Divide your tar-weight by the ammount of cuttings /feet you used to get the weight of a dose worth one foot. - Split the tar in small pellets, a size that is easy to swallow just like a small pill, and roll these in powdered sugar to prevent sticking to the table /plate.
Done.
Here's a picture of a (medium to full -) dose. A small handfull of pellets, tasteless as you wash it down with water.

Enjoy. These tar balls /pellets are ready to swallow as they are. Just down them in a gulp with some water or fruit juice.
Don't take a whole dose all at once, but spread dosing over half an hour to an hour. If you want to dose 15 tar pellets, take three of them every ten minutes. This helps a lot with possible nausea.
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Here are a few pictures.
Ten feet of cactus, a mix of bridgesii and pachanoi, multiple phenotypes. Despine the long spined cacti, pachanoi doesn't need to be despined but bridgesii should.

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All put in a big crockpot. Add some citric acid, only a tiny ammount. Full boil and filtering with a colander.
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Filtering with a finer colander and reducing to an ammount that fits into a big jar.
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Let the brew stand overnight to make the remaining plantmaterial settle down.
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Finally reduce to a sirup -like consistency.
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Pour the sirup into flat evaping dish(es) and put these in warm oven.
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The resulting tar.
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One dose of pellets worth 1.3 feet, ended up beeing visually as strong as ~125mics of LSD.


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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon]
#26913092 - 09/02/20 02:36 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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it's first time that I heard that but it sound cool so I'll give it a try.
can I ask you why don't you put the cactus chopped Pisces in to a blander ?
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: mr. whothehell] 1
#26913096 - 09/02/20 02:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you blend cactus it will create a slimey goo that is hard to filter. Big chunks can be filtered out easily with a common colander. A blender creates microparticles that you don't want nor need to ingest.
Mescaline and the other alkaloids are completly water soluble, so boiling bigger chunks gets all the alkaloids without having too much plantparticles in the brew.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon]
#26913233 - 09/02/20 06:38 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just harvested a 48 cm piece that weights 680 grams. I intend to let it remain lying in the dark for about 3 months. Meanwhile I break my head on how to consume it.
I did alcohol extractions in the past but have serious doubts whether alcohol is a good solvent. Anyway the remaining tar was only a few grams and could easily be swallowed. Nevertheless I always had strong nausea and stomach pains.
I also made tar, grounded it into small pieces and swallowed it. The problem was that I needed a lot of liquid to get it down. Since it was significantly more tar than with the alcohol extractions. The result was a stomach full of water, water that somehow remained in my stomach and didn't pass through. I could feel the water swinging around in my stomach when walking. Eventually I had to vomit and puked out most of the tar. Resulting in only a mild effect.
The best idea I came up with so far is separating the green layer from the light green/white inner flesh, boiling both separately and than drink the tea from the green tissue first. Drinking the rest later on, if I can pull it off. This way I at least have the best parts in my system.
But since I only have 680 grams, and reading your post, I wonder if I should give the tar another try. Don't you have the problem with needing too much liquid to get it down your throat?
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: szubsa]
#26915453 - 09/03/20 11:40 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's like small pills.. you can down it with a sip or a gulp of water, whatever you need..
I always swallow two or three of these pellets an oce with a big gulp of water. So I never needed more than two or three cups of water in total to down a full dose of tar. 
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon]
#26915634 - 09/03/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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2-3 cups still seems quite a lot to me. If 1 cup is 200-250 ml. I hope the tea from the green tissue isn't more than 100-150 ml and I can drink it in 1 gulp so that I have everything in me before becoming fully aware of the horrible taste.
You mentioned not swallowing all tar at once. But knowing myself I think that may be a problem for me. My stomach may not be as strong as yours. After getting nauseous from the first pellets only thinking about swallowing more may make me want to vomit. The tar dissolves slowly in the stomach and once my brain knows I took something poisonous it may block further absorption of the stomach content. I believe that to be the reason why I had a bad experience with the tar and is the reason why I prefer to get it all down at once.
But I still have about 3 more months to think about what I will do. Thanks for your reply.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: szubsa]
#26915646 - 09/03/20 12:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, the more you take at once the more nauseous reacts the stomache.
And two cups (0.5L) is not much if spread over one hour.
A cactus tea can be any ammount. The more you boil it down, the smaller the ammount. You can reduce five doses to a small shotglass if you like, so one dose per gulp is no problem. But the more concentrated it is the worse the taste and the slimyer the texture. It's like slimey sirup.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon] 2
#26915712 - 09/03/20 01:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wanna hug you so bad rn thx for the thorough tek*
Edit: tek, not tea lol
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Psicomb]
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: szubsa] 3
#26916363 - 09/03/20 08:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you are getting too nauseous what you need is therapeutic grade lemon essential oil. Just 5 drops into lemonade sipped will prevent nausea very effectively.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: flickedbic]
#26935321 - 09/14/20 02:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks very much for the Tek! After -
'Let the brew stand overnight to make the remaining plant-material settle down.'
. . . > > > Do you decant the liquid and discard the settled plant matter in the bottom of the glass? cheers,
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: bob5]
#26935391 - 09/14/20 03:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes.
I fill the settled plantmatter again into a smaller jar, add some fresh water and let it again stand for a couple of hours. Then decant again. Just to get the last bit of water out, to minimize the loss.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon]
#26936262 - 09/15/20 01:26 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Great information. I have a couple of questions:
1. I have some cactus stored in jars that were dehydrated and ground into a fine powder for long-term storage. I think I'm finally ready to try it. Would I be able to start with boiling this powder and still get the same results, or would you recommend a different tek at this point?
2. Weighing your dosage on a scale seems like a remarkably convenient way to know exactly how much you're taking. I see that 10 feet produced about 90 grams of tar in your results. As you mentioned, one foot of cactus is considered a common mild dosage. So, for your tar, you would take about 9 grams of tar for a common mild dosage. Is that pretty consistent, or does the mass of the tar vary widely every time you do the tek?
Thanks again for sharing this. Looks like just what I need (hopefully).
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Nonagon Infinity] 1
#26936491 - 09/15/20 07:26 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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1) Sure you can use cactus powder. Just boil it like you would boil fresh cactus. Filtering the powder out is a bit more tricky, though. Gravity filtering, as mentioned above, is the best method to easily filter out everything.
2) No, the ammount of "tar per foot" varies from batch to batch. But not too much. Last time it was like 10.5g per foot, all batches made this way have ended up beeing around ~10g per "foot". (I use different cuttings all the time. Skinny, fat, different phenotypes.. it gets homogenized during the process but it might affect the resulting volume of the tar)
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon]
#26936797 - 09/15/20 10:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Awesome, thanks so much for the great info!
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
#26936859 - 09/15/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Great tek, awesome pictures. Just posting here for easy future reference.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon] 1
#26937079 - 09/15/20 01:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice write up/tek .
I've reduced my teas down into a tar/putty a few times over the years. Def is a lot easier to dose little bits/balls of tar/putty versus drinking the tea, as far as dealing with the taste.
The times I've dosed cactus with tar/putty I usually do so over a period of about 20 minutes or so (for about 1.5ft of cactus). I use a very small amount of water or juice to swallow & wash them down, I intentionally use as little liquid as needed to wash them down, just a little sip or two is all that's needed for me to swallow the little bits of tar/putty.
The only differences I've noticed between the tar/putty and the tea....The tea comes on a bit quicker and I feel it also has a bit more bio-availability, the tar comes on a bit more slowly and can still cause a stomach load during the first couple hours. No major differences between the two in my experience tho, besides the tar/putty being MUCH much easier to swallow lol. There is virtually no taste with the tar/putty if one swallows right lol, just a little bitter but no where near as bitter or pungent in flavor like the tea is.
The tar/putty is good for long term storage too. I've never held onto any for more than a year or so but I imagine it will stay active for a long time.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: openmind]
#26937649 - 09/15/20 05:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do you notice more/less nausea with the tar than with a tea? cheers, B
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: bob5]
#26939098 - 09/16/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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bob5 said: Do you notice more/less nausea with the tar than with a tea? cheers, B
I haven't dosed with the tar many times to give a solid answer on that, I don't have much experience with cactus/mescaline in general (maybe 10 sessions with it over the past 10+ years where the tea or tar was potent enough for a full on trip)....
....but I'll say that the times I've dosed the tar/putty I didn't have any more or less nausea than tea . I feel the potential for a load on the stomach/gut & nausea is similar between the two.
I've def had a bit of a "load" on my stomach one of the times I did the tar, not full on nausea but just where I could feel a "load" in my stomach/gut that was a bit uncomfortable. Made my stomach/gut feel "heavy" & loaded, kinda cramped & tight, like I could feel the tar just sitting in there lol. It wasn't anything severe tho. After 2 to 3 hours the stomach load usually starts to fade for me with tea & tar. The few times I've puked or come close to it, it's usually around 90 minutes or so after dosing. I think I've only puked once from cactus, I felt really really good as soon as I was done puking lol .
Tea comes on a bit quicker so that can contribute to the nausea. Since I feel a lot of the nausea is from the mescaline itself & other active components in the cactus, when the actives go into one's system more rapidly that might cause a bit more potential for nausea/puking. And there's also the "psychological" aspect of drinking something bitter & foul tasting, for some that might also contribute to more nausea.
From my experience tho, I can't say either is worse than the other in the area of nausea/stomach load.
Tar/putty is def much easier to get down though.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: openmind]
#26939599 - 09/16/20 06:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Great news. Thanks!
Maybe something could be drunk to help the tar dissolve easier..
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: bob5]
#26940273 - 09/17/20 07:55 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was thinking this as well. Maybe some hot tea of choice? Maybe ginger tea?
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26940625 - 09/17/20 12:25 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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bob5 said: Great news. Thanks!
Maybe something could be drunk to help the tar dissolve easier..
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tyrannicalrex said: I was thinking this as well. Maybe some hot tea of choice? Maybe ginger tea?
Totally .
Yea that's something I was actually going to mention in my previous post but forgot too.
One of the times I dosed the tar I think that's exactly what I did IIRC, I think I had a cup of some sort of hot botanical/herbal tea as soon as all the tar was in my tummy...Figured it would help the tar to dissolve a bit while also calming the stomach.
Other times I've just ate a little something light & easy as soon as I've got the dose all down....some fruit or a couple slices of toast with honey/jam.
I feel that having little bit of food & roughage in the stomach shortly after dosing will do the most to help the tar to dissolve & digest quicker, and therefor help with the absorption of the actives. I feel that'll likely help with stomach load/nausea a little bit too (I know lots of folks feel differently on this, but for me personally a little bit of food in the stomach goes a long way to help lessen potential stomach load/nausea)......Even when I dose mushrooms, 1/2 the time I'll eat a light snack right after I dose em' (fruit or toast usually).
I do feel the tar dissolves in the stomach/gut kinda slowly (make the balls/pellets of tar small to increase surface area), and the actives are delivered into one's system slower than with tea....but the tar def still does the trick . With tea tho, there's been times I feel the "first alert" and first signs of lifting off baseline literally within less than a minute after I've taken the first gulp (but there is still a long slow drawn out climb into the peak/plateau of the trip).
I've got like 5 feet worth of thick old cactus reduced down into tar right now. I've been holding onto it until I have the chance to have a session with it while outdoors in nature/camping. Last time I dosed cactus/mescaline was indoors at home solo, and I told myself the next time I have a session with it that it will have to be outdoors in nature and with a good close friend or two.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#27073511 - 12/05/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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This looks like a tek worth trying. Was it hard to get it off the glass ?
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Dr. Delban]
#27075001 - 12/06/20 10:37 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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As I wrote above it's best to scape up while the dish is still warm and the tar still soft.
The colder it gets the harder it is to scrape up. 
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon]
#27131144 - 01/06/21 05:43 PM (3 years, 22 days ago) |
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Do you throw away the white core? Or does 100% of the cacti go into your pot in this tek?
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: bob5] 1
#27135513 - 01/08/21 03:18 PM (3 years, 20 days ago) |
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I only throw away the core when I eat cactus raw.
When doing a boil for tea or pellets I use the whole plant.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: bob5]
#27135551 - 01/08/21 03:35 PM (3 years, 20 days ago) |
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bob5 said: Great news. Thanks!
Maybe something could be drunk to help the tar dissolve easier..
You need to stimulate the production of digestive acids and enzymes to help break up the tar. Easiest bet would be freshly ground black pepper. I suggest researching in this direction.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Dr. Delban]
#27135949 - 01/08/21 06:08 PM (3 years, 20 days ago) |
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Hmm, what if one used a small amount of alcohol or water to re-hydrate the ta just a bit to facilitate digestion?
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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tyrannicalrex said: Hmm, what if one used a small amount of alcohol or water to re-hydrate the ta just a bit to facilitate digestion?
Definitely dissolving in water would hep. But then one would have to deal with the taste. Tar pellet method is all about avoiding the challenging taste, which can last for hours.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Dr. Delban]
#27138679 - 01/09/21 10:20 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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My thinking is that some of the tar doesn't dissolve and get processed so you lose some but I don't really know.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: tyrannicalrex] 3
#27138740 - 01/09/21 11:03 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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What if you made the tar balls as tiny as possible before tossing them back and washing them down?
I'm thinking the smaller they are, the more rapidly they can be broken down.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: flickedbic]
#27138847 - 01/10/21 12:35 AM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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I packed the tar into capsules. 55 grams in about 12 caps I think, I have to look again. And its 55 grams of tar.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#27139152 - 01/10/21 08:01 AM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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55g is a lot of tar. When I make tar like above, I end up with ~10g per foot. So a full dose is 15 to 20g.
And yes, very small tar pellets will dissolve faster than big pellets. 
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#27139539 - 01/10/21 11:14 AM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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Possibly. Especially if there is food left in the digestive tract. The tar I used to eat wasn't too hard though, in fact it was pretty gooey. I have seen pics of some tart pellets that were pretty hard and guess would take very long to absorb.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: flickedbic]
#27139541 - 01/10/21 11:16 AM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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flickedbic said: I'm thinking the smaller they are, the more rapidly they can be broken down.
A higher number of smaller pellets means more surface contact area.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Dr. Delban]
#27141936 - 01/11/21 12:25 PM (3 years, 17 days ago) |
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon]
#27144401 - 01/12/21 06:37 PM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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Pandemoon said: 55g is a lot of tar. When I make tar like above, I end up with ~10g per foot. So a full dose is 15 to 20g.
And yes, very small tar pellets will dissolve faster than big pellets. 
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I have done 35 grams of tar from this same plant and had a really nice light to medium trip, so I was thinking 55 grams would be a pretty nice solid trip without too much. I dried it further in the oven so it was almost powdery tar, kind of like the real road tar that can break like chips, but be waxy and soft if held. It seems to have liquefied in the capsules too. Maybe a warm cup of some nice ginger tea with it? I'm getting antsy as I made it xmas of 2018 so it's been over a year and I want to trip on this cactus a bit harder that the 35 grams. I have done mescaline only a hand full of times and 2 are from this cactus in the last 10 years. Numerous LSD and mushroom trips though. You got a 55 gram tar trip report for me from a Peruvian blue Torch (labeled) of the strength I describe? It was akin to I'd say 2 grams of mushrooms, maybe 1.5.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#27144949 - 01/13/21 01:36 AM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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No, you misunderstood.  I didn't want to say that 55g is too high of a dose. If 35g was a light to medium trip, then totally go for 55g. 
I just wonder why your yield is so high, compared to my tar. You did an everclear extraction, right? Alcohol is said to extract even less unwanted crap than water, that's why I think alcohol tar should lead to a smaller and or more potent yield.
Don't get me wrong, take the 55g.  It's just that if I would take 55g of the tar shown in the first post, this would be like taking a dose five and a half feet worth, and totally turn my universe upside down. 
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: laughingdog] 2
#27145212 - 01/13/21 07:08 AM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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Don’t worry about it dissolving in your stomach, if you hold it in your hand it’ll melt right away. You can roll them in flour just to make them handleable but once you swallow them they aren’t going to stay pellets. Plus with the long onset they have plenty of time to dissolve and get where it needs to be.
You’ll think it’s not working but it’ll work, and then you’ll do things like wonder how long that pattern you never noticed before has been on the floor.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Amanita86]
#27145273 - 01/13/21 07:51 AM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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I used to roll mine in cocoa powder.
It's interesting how it makes you start paying attention to things you never paid attention to. Patterns on the floor are just one example.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon]
#27146459 - 01/13/21 06:58 PM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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Ah ok, yeas I used 190 proof grain alcohol. I would say that I used maybe 4-5 feet of cactus to make four doses 50-55 grams of tar each. I probably soaked and strained it 4-5 times. I made them for the mate and another close friend couple who said they wanted to try it, but have backed out many times, lol. I'm just itching to do my part, I may have made theirs too high a dose for their 1st time, but they've done LSD with me a few times over the last few years.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#27147079 - 01/14/21 04:51 AM (3 years, 14 days ago) |
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190 proof means 92% which is too strong for extractions. You will get better results using 70%. I have previously extracted from the same batch of San Pedro powder using 95% and then 70%. There was a massive difference! I have kept the material from 95% extraction and have flushed it a few times a while later with a 70% to get everything out.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Dr. Delban]
#27147626 - 01/14/21 12:10 PM (3 years, 14 days ago) |
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Just wanted to stop by and say I love the photos in this post. Something about them appeals to me greatly!
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: coversall]
#27147721 - 01/14/21 01:02 PM (3 years, 14 days ago) |
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Thanks man!  I'm deep into digital photography for almost 20 years already. I work semi-professional as photographer as a side-job, even made photograslistic texture-/materialpacks for computergames (UnrealEngine) and such..
Glad you like them. 
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon]
#27149059 - 01/15/21 04:06 AM (3 years, 13 days ago) |
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I went over all your teks, just fantasic images!
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Re: Cactus tar pellets TEK. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon]
#27228092 - 02/26/21 06:19 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Now where to get the cactus
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Re: Cactus tar pellets TEK. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon]
#27241877 - 03/07/21 12:47 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cool TEK, thanks!
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Re: Cactus tar pellets TEK. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: MycFunk3D]
#27726254 - 04/08/22 08:59 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Yeeeeuuuup. This the way for me. Next time a cactus crosses my path I won’t let it slip through my fingers again. When the time is right. Thank you for the insight.
Sidebar question though…
I’ve read you can dry, powder and mix the dark green material in a smoking blend and get really good results. Any experiences out there?
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Re: Cactus tar pellets TEK. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Soloist]
#27730375 - 04/11/22 03:07 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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The heat would completely kill the actives. It's a myth. It's a placebo effect if stated as true. Maybe...
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Re: Cactus tar pellets TEK. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#27730696 - 04/11/22 07:35 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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so is it ok to use high heat? in my exp yes
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Re: Cactus tar pellets TEK. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#27730767 - 04/11/22 08:25 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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tyrannicalrex said: The heat would completely kill the actives. It's a myth. It's a placebo effect if stated as true. Maybe...
I got the feeling you’re wrong about the high heat killing the actives…
Check out some reports on erowid,
https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.cgi?S1=809&DoseMethodID=6&OldSort=RA_PDD&NewSort=&Start=0&ShowViews=0&Cellar=1
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Re: Cactus tar pellets TEK. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Soloist]
#27730906 - 04/11/22 11:20 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I have read that some native american tribes were reported to not only eat peyote but also smoke it to get high.
There seems to be something, but I don't know. 
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Re: Cactus tar pellets TEK. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Soloist]
#27730923 - 04/11/22 11:49 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Wow. I wonder if anyone's trying vaporizing freebased mescaline.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets TEK. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: flickedbic]
#27730997 - 04/12/22 02:49 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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flickedbic said: Wow. I wonder if anyone's trying vaporizing freebased mescaline.
Definitely are, saw on tek on here for making the HCI salt I think?
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Re: Cactus tar pellets TEK. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Soloist]
#27731010 - 04/12/22 03:49 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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tar is gross, get them fine mesc needles for the ultimate ride
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Re: Cactus tar pellets TEK. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Blazer420]
#27731026 - 04/12/22 04:50 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Tar is a full spectrum alkaloid extract without any nasty chemicals required.
Only water and heat is needed to get this almost tasteless and easy to dose form of cactus experience.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets TEK. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Soloist] 1
#27731557 - 04/12/22 03:18 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I have lived many years and seen and heard this tale many times in many different ways. Look up the chemical compound in the plant and why and how it becomes active and the heat point at which it kills it. One can not get a mescaline high off plant matter. Maybe a freebase form of the crystals but I'd want the full 15-18 hour trip personally. I'd smoke DMT to get that kind of trip. I'm also calling BS on all those erowid stories as they involve cannabis and/or a combo of many different other drugs. I'm not arguing or trying to start an argument either. It's completely obvious that smoking skins, tar, or dried tar dust whatever and getting a buzz from it is BS, period.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets TEK. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#27731686 - 04/12/22 05:11 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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tyrannicalrex said: I have lived many years and seen and heard this tale many times in many different ways. Look up the chemical compound in the plant and why and how it becomes active and the heat point at which it kills it. One can not get a mescaline high off plant matter. Maybe a freebase form of the crystals but I'd want the full 15-18 hour trip personally. I'd smoke DMT to get that kind of trip. I'm also calling BS on all those erowid stories as they involve cannabis and/or a combo of many different other drugs. I'm not arguing or trying to start an argument either. It's completely obvious that smoking skins, tar, or dried tar dust whatever and getting a buzz from it is BS, period.
Nah no argument from here my man. You very well may be right. Who knows what kind of synergy can exist between the other ingredients. Hell, even one of the reports regarding peyote admits that the pipe was already packed and they have no idea what was in it. I have no experience with mescaline personally, yet. Personally, I am very much into creating kinnickinnick blends. I’ve actually had low level hallucinations from a blend consisting of cannabis, wild tobacco, sacred lotus, mugwort, maybe uva ursi too (gotta look up my recipe)
At some point in the hopefully near future, (but only when the time is right) I will have the proper cactus teacher and testing this method is on my list.
I will mix it in an inert blend such as mullein and raspberry leaf & report back.

Edit: I will also take a look into the properties of mescaline.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets TEK. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Soloist]
#27751206 - 04/25/22 07:56 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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You are right, mescaline is indeed heat sensitive.
However, if one were to smoke cactus material, then there would be a plethora of other compounds/interactions at play. We are not dealing with strictly mescaline.
Seems that smoking dried cactus material is in fact a thing though…
“ Uses & Abuses of Plant-Derived Smoke It’s ethnobotany as hallucinogen, perfume Incense & medicine” Written by- Marcello pennacchio , Lara Jefferson, Kayri Harris Published by Oxford university press 2010
Page 172- Third entree Trichocereus pachanoi Britton &Rose (cactaceae. San Pedro cactus. Archeological digs in Las Alda’s, Peru, have revealed the remains of cigars that may have been smoked by the local people for their psychoactive properties (Sharron and Donnan 1977)

This will indeed be a method I test. Now, in reading my book, I will include it in a traditional sicar (Mayan cigar) with the Nicotiana I will be planting this year. I will reply back at some point in the future.
Edit. I must also add.
(Not going to take picture of this book)
“The Encyclopedia of Psychoactive Plants” Written by Christian Rätsch, published by park street press,
Page 508- Trichocereus Pachanoi
“Recently, the use of cactus powder (sometimes in combination with Peganum harmala seeds) as a smoking substance has been on the rise. Whether psychoactive effects can be produced in this manner is questionable. I have not noticed any effects from such use. ”
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Re: Cactus tar pellets TEK. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Soloist]
#27751463 - 04/26/22 12:50 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Soloist said: You are right, mescaline is indeed heat sensitive.
However, if one were to smoke cactus material, then there would be a plethora of other compounds/interactions at play. We are not dealing with strictly mescaline.
Seems that smoking dried cactus material is in fact a thing though…
“ Uses & Abuses of Plant-Derived Smoke It’s ethnobotany as hallucinogen, perfume Incense & medicine” Written by- Marcello pennacchio , Lara Jefferson, Kayri Harris Published by Oxford university press 2010
Page 172- Third entree Trichocereus pachanoi Britton &Rose (cactaceae. San Pedro cactus. Archeological digs in Las Alda’s, Peru, have revealed the remains of cigars that may have been smoked by the local people for their psychoactive properties (Sharron and Donnan 1977)

This will indeed be a method I test. Now, in reading my book, I will include it in a traditional sicar (Mayan cigar) with the Nicotiana I will be planting this year. I will reply back at some point in the future.
Edit. I must also add.
(Not going to take picture of this book)
“The Encyclopedia of Psychoactive Plants” Written by Christian Rätsch, published by park street press,
Page 508- Trichocereus Pachanoi
“Recently, the use of cactus powder (sometimes in combination with Peganum harmala seeds) as a smoking substance has been on the rise. Whether psychoactive effects can be produced in this manner is questionable. I have not noticed any effects from such use. ”
that's interesting, keep us updated
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Re: Cactus tar pellets TEK. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon] 1
#27752678 - 04/26/22 08:53 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Bookmarking this TEK, thanks for sharing! Seems perfect for bringing for outdoors adventures since you don't need to preserve a tea.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets TEK. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: GhostHustler]
#27752680 - 04/26/22 08:56 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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GhostHustler said: Bookmarking this TEK, thanks for sharing! Seems perfect for bringing for outdoors adventures since you don't need to preserve a tea.
yup, toss your pellets in a bag of raisinets and your off to the moon
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: whenmistweeps]
#27752977 - 04/27/22 06:52 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I ll try this.
what can I do to prevent the nausea from the smell of preparing this?
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#27753056 - 04/27/22 08:05 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#27753381 - 04/27/22 01:22 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Does cooking down cactus tea smell that bad?
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Soloist]
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Soloist said: Does cooking down cactus tea smell that bad?
it's noticeable, but I only used low heat extended duration with the lid on while the cactus was cooking, after removing the cactus and removing the lid, it's about the same notability during evap, but I would imagine high heat boils would put off much more smell.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Soloist] 1
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Doesn't smell bad to me.
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smells like artichoke
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: golmo]
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golmo said: smells like artichoke
Really??

Think I could live with that…well, my family I really mean.
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#27784556 - 05/19/22 04:17 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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It does smell a little funky, told my kid I'm making a rhubarb ointment for sore joints. 


~16' (had to leave out the big one on the far right) hoping for a yield of 150gm. On the 3rd boil rn, forgot to filter the 2nd and spilled a little bit when transferring from dutch oven back to stock pot. I've been smashing the pieces with a potato masher, gonna filter a few times. Tommorrow is decant and dehydrate, Saturday is bioassay ~15gm. Wondering if it will be easier to decant from a gallon jar or liquor bottles. Don't have a hand siphon or pipette and don't want to use a turkey baster. Moar pics when finished.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: schmutzen] 1
#27784971 - 05/19/22 09:33 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Ha, yeah, artichoke kind of... or someone once asked me if I was canning beans while a cactus tea was brewing at my house.
I found cactus extracts to be helpful for pain when taken internally actually.
I would say jar because of the bigger mouth, but either would work. If you put it in the fridge the solids will settle faster.
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#27785341 - 05/20/22 07:26 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Looking good namaste!
Keep in mind dehydrating the sirup takes a while, and to not dehydrate too much. If it's too dry it's a pain to scrape. Better get it out of the oven when it's still a bit soft, it's easier to scrape then. And powdered sugar, or flower, helps with the stickyness. Get's more volume and mass once you pour some flower onto the dried sirup, but you mix it evenly and do the math afterwards. Weigh your entire yield and divide it by 16, then you get the weight of tar worth one foot.
For me I usually end up with ~ 10 to 15 grams of tar per foot. But I decant settled particles at least twice, this reduces the volume and mass of the endproduct a lot. Others end up with 25 to 35 grams per foot.
And the more flower I add to get rid of the stickyness, the higher the weight of a single dose of course.
You will see tomorrow. Looking forward to see your results. 
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon] 3
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I think peyote has been used as a topical pain reliever.
Went with the gallon jar, the solids stuck to the bottom quite well.
Yesterday I put the pulp into an old shirt, twisted and squeezed, got 3 softball sized chunks of empty skins each with a pint of light green/yellow liquid. Tasted a sip of this, it was gross af!
This morning the solids all went into an iced coffee carafe and settled quickly. Got the liquid boiling down and skimming the foam off with a slotted spoon.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: schmutzen]
#27785547 - 05/20/22 11:06 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Nice.
Beware that scraping the tar can easily take a couple of hours.. it's so sticky it's not done in 15min. 
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon]
#27785749 - 05/20/22 01:21 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Corn starch would be another good option for a powder to help with stickiness. I’ve used it making spruce pitch gum.
If you’re talking long term storage, I think flour would spoil sooner. Just a hunch though.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Soloist]
#27785918 - 05/20/22 03:16 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Going with cocoa powder, in case anyone is on the no sugar, no flour diet. 
I may have moved the liquid to the pyrex dish too soon, it wasn't getting thick or syrupy but was burning/sticking to the sides of the stock pot. It's in the oven at 180°F, may be in there overnight. I'll keep checking every few hours.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: schmutzen]
#27786193 - 05/20/22 08:48 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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i have never done this but i was thinking about it: when the liquid is not thick or syrupy,add corn starch (as minimun as possible) to make it a wet dough. and then flatten it to increase surface area and then to the oven on low heat to dry the dough completely.
then u can crash it to have crumbles/powder of tar+starch.
to consume u add honey and roll to small spheres and swallow like pills.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: golmo]
#27786628 - 05/21/22 08:37 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I put a lid on it and stuck it in the fridge, will resume on Monday.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: golmo]
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Quote:
golmo said: i have never done this but i was thinking about it: when the liquid is not thick or syrupy,add corn starch (as minimun as possible) to make it a wet dough. and then flatten it to increase surface area and then to the oven on low heat to dry the dough completely.
then u can crash it to have crumbles/powder of tar+starch.
to consume u add honey and roll to small spheres and swallow like pills.
i wonder if it works
Sounds like it would work fine to me. Though maybe a bit syrupy would be better.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Soloist] 2
#27789649 - 05/23/22 04:37 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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It's rare for me to hit my target so closely, still a few grams stuck to the dish and plate. Thinking of using isopropyl alcohol to loosen it up. This weight is before adding any cocoa powder. The stuff is very sticky, it really stuck to the foil, going to put it in the freezer and hopefully it snaps off like wax. Got next Monday off, should be good for recovery. 
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: schmutzen]
#27789922 - 05/23/22 08:12 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Looking tasty haha
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: schmutzen] 1
#27790335 - 05/24/22 07:16 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Very nice, it looks exactly like it should. Very well done, really! 
I hope it turns out potent.. if your cactus is good, 15 to 20 g should be a nice medium to strong dose.
And you have like 9 more doses on hand, ready to take whenever you want. 

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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon] 1
#27790349 - 05/24/22 07:29 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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By the way, it's better to separate single doses within the next days. The tar gets rock-solid within a few weeks, it's almost impossible to separate doses then without smashing the rock into a billion pieces with a hammer.
Better make small pellets soon, as pictured in the first post. 
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon] 2
#27790375 - 05/24/22 07:58 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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If bitter is any indication of potency, it should be good. 
I did a similar tek about 7 years ago with about half the amount. Back then I took the cuttings during the growing season, didn't let them cure in darkness, ran it throughout the blender and didn't decant the particles... it was pretty weak sauce. Have high hopes for this one. It has a nice golden/amber color when stretched out.
Here's about 1/4 of the end product:
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: schmutzen] 1
#27790665 - 05/24/22 01:02 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Nice candy! 
Have fun experimenting, and please report back asap.

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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon] 1
#27791074 - 05/24/22 07:31 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Gorgeous pellets
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Soloist] 1
#27791226 - 05/24/22 09:17 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Thank you, I call them 'cocoa pebbles of the gods.' 
Finished rolling them and now waiting for the isopropyl to loosen up the leftovers stuck to the dish, blades and knife. Just over 160gm so far. Happy with the yield from 16'
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: schmutzen] 1
#27791228 - 05/24/22 09:18 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Cosmo pebbles
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#27791232 - 05/24/22 09:25 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Cactus tar pellets TEK. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon]
#27865230 - 07/16/22 06:57 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Awesome and I think I will try this instead of tea.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets TEK. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Hobbit GDF] 1
#27865961 - 07/17/22 09:17 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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pandemoon, how far can i go with reducing the tea still on the pot?(without damaging alkaloids and burning everything)
can i pour the syrup concentrated tea on a silicon baking sheet to finish evaporation to tar? to avoid the need of scraping everything from a glass dish. or will it stick to the silicon too?
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: golmo] 2
#27867758 - 07/18/22 02:16 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Starting to do my 1st boil in a second
 Sons bday 19th, mine 20th. So we going to try it out together
I couldn't find my citric acid. How much vinegar? Distilled white vinegar work?
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Hobbit GDF]
#27867889 - 07/18/22 03:20 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Nice. A splash or a big spoon should be enough vinegar. Any vinegar will do the trick. It's not even essential, though it works well without. Keep in mind the whole procedure takes at least two to three days untill you have finished product. Gravity filtering (letting the plantmaterial settle down overnight) should be done at least once.. And never pour the hot brew into a glass jar, it will break. Always let the liquid cool down before you fill any glassware. 
golmo, I wouldn't use solicone sheets. The tar is so sticky and the sheet so soft and bendy.. I guess it would be impossible to get the tar off the sheet.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon]
#27867971 - 07/18/22 04:21 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I usually heat my glass 1st so I can transfer hot liquids. Thx for heads up. I'm going to boil 3x. Following the best I can . I figured 2 days. But 3s ok
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Hobbit GDF]
#27868321 - 07/18/22 10:14 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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How long do you let it boil down after th 3 boils? I know I boil it down again tomorrow after the settle.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Hobbit GDF]
#27868684 - 07/19/22 09:24 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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It depends on how much liquid you end up with from the previous boils. With multiple cuttings for a handfull of doses I always end up with close to a gallon or so (several liters), then it takes a few hours till it's of this thick, viscous sirup-like consitency to dry it further to tar in the oven (which takes also an additional hour or three). Scraping and splitting into doses /pellets is the worst part, this alone might take half a day depending on the ammount. 
But you can boil it down only a bit so that it remains a liquid of a drinkable ammount (two cups or so per dose is good in my opinion). Then it's basically a common cactus tea, ready to drink. Much quicker than tar, as you don't have to dry and scrape anything, which saves a few hours of work. The taste is awefull, but it's managable. Make sure to have a tasty fruit juice on hand, to chase every gulp of tea and kill the bad taste in the mounth. Ice-cream also works well as a chaser. 
How much doses are you preparing, just the two? Then I'd just drink it when it's reduced to a drinkable ammount. Saves a lot of time.
I make this tar to end up with several doses that I can keep for future use. It's a lot of work and a lot of time, not really suitable for instant dosing. Then I'd just eat the cutting raw, or make tea. It's quicker that way.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon]
#27868726 - 07/19/22 10:15 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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It's 6ft total. Had some Peruvian, Bolivian, monstrose bridgesii, & macro.
It is for 5 or 6 people. All our 1st time.
Should I worry about the film forming on top the boil?
It's for another day. Probably within the next week or this weekend. I don't think some of the ppl will be able to handle the taste.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Hobbit GDF]
#27868745 - 07/19/22 10:44 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Here are progression pics
     
When the color of mine different? Should I of boiled it down more I wonder? It was syrupy
Will it have to sit at 180f in the oven all day? I also decanted 2x not shown. I used aerator hose and siphoned.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Hobbit GDF]
#27868754 - 07/19/22 10:53 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Why did it turn yellow? Might be due to the vinegar.. it should be very very dark, near black. 


Still looks a bit too fluid imo. I'd boil it down a bit more until it's really thick.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon]
#27868755 - 07/19/22 10:56 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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It never got dark like that. Idk. Maybe I should of boiled the syrup longer. It was still light
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Hobbit GDF]
#27868760 - 07/19/22 11:00 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, I'd try that.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon]
#27868761 - 07/19/22 11:01 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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To me it looks like the liquid from the third or fourth boil only. I'm sure you combined all the liquids from all boils.. but this looks way too light to me. 
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon]
#27868775 - 07/19/22 11:17 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I did 3 boils and this is all of them + decanted 2x. This it. Hopefully it still good. It's getting darker in the oven. It's got probably a couple hours to go at this point I think
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Hobbit GDF]
#27868920 - 07/19/22 01:10 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Don't dry it too hard, it will be hell to scrape. Warm and still soft is best, then you can scrape it well and knead it into small pellets.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon]
#27868956 - 07/19/22 01:45 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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So I added a little flower because it was super gunky. I added just just little to weigh it so it wouldnt get stuck on the scales. 59g for 6ft of cuttings. 60g was my goal and I'm very pleased with 59. Here Is the balls I made. Hopefully they can be swallowed fine. They are not the smallest.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Hobbit GDF]
#27868969 - 07/19/22 01:59 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Okay, looks good. 
Take a knive and just cut them into halfes if they are too big to swallow. It takes several days or weeks untill they are rockhard. 
Keep us updated, I'm interested in how this turns out.
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Re: Cactus tar pellets. No taste, minimal nausea [Re: Pandemoon]
#27869277 - 07/19/22 05:09 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I cut them into halves again. I'll let yall know. Love this tek so far. It's perfect.
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I've done this method with great results!
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