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Eclipse3130
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Micropore Dial
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I've been using 2 layers of micropore on bottom holes and 1 layer on tops in a standard monotub and have been running into the issue of lack of FAE. It seems pins form specifically next to the holes because FAE is restricted.
I have been considering running a fan in the room to help cure this problem, or dropping down to 1 and a 1/2 layers a day or 2 before pins usually form.
Have any experience with this issue and what did you do to fix it?
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It will not pins next to the holes because the FAE is restricted, quite the contrary in fact.
Like you said go from 2 layers to 1 layer. When the pinset is formed and the fruitbodys are growing good, I sometimes remove completely the tapes and mist them alot.
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Martinsapin said: It will not pins next to the holes because the FAE is restricted, quite the contrary in fact.
Pins are forming directly next to the holes with 2 layers because the FAE is limited in its travel and not circulating throughout the entire surface/tub. FAE/evaporation of substrate is the primary pinning trigger, aside from full colonization I believe. But yes since that's not working, I only have one option reduce the layers and try to dial it in.
My goal is to mimic polyfill, without using polyfill. There is a sweet spot I'm trying to find
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I guess he means just behind the holes there`s a bit air movement for pins. I`d try Pasty`s EZ dialed monos or Bod`s unmodified. In the end it`s always your environment you have to dial in. Perhaps make some side by side projects to find the best setup.
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Goatrider said:
In the end it`s always your environment you have to dial in. Perhaps make some side by side projects to find the best setup. 
Quoted for Truth! Yeah have a bit more experimenting to do!
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Getting some knotting especially near the holes again with 2 layers, so dropping down to 1 and a 1/2 in hopes it spreads out the pinset. Wish me luck


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Goatrider said:I`d try Pasty`s EZ dialed monos or Bod`s unmodified.
Pasty's EZ monos is where it's at! I have the best results with them and never have to do anything besides spawn and harvest!
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That's what I'm trying to replicate. 2 layers bottom 1 layer top with an air current in the room seems like it works well for most people. Everyone's environment is a little different and tub size/hole sizs it's very personalized dialing compared to poly. I'm still trying to find the sweet spot, hope this time it works out.
I've had great results with poly from spawn set and forget, mist once or twice. Trying to replicate with micropore
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I had good results with the classic mono using mp tape as well but pasty's version works the best for me. like you said everybody has its own climate, etc. For me the unmodified version was way to work intense. I also realized I have to up the field capacity just a bit.. stuff like that. you could also try "half layers" at the bottom holes.
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Can this please turn into a side by side comparison thread ?
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In my tubs pins form even with high co2 and not much air exchange. You might need to increase the fae when you get to fruiting.
Do you have hvac in the house? I run passive fae. 2 thick layers on bottom one on top. When i have a massive pinset, i remove the top holes and let it fruit. There is a small Ac vent in the fruiting closet but not very large. Its enough to get great results with most varieties minus a few. If every tub you have is doing this, it wouldnt hurt to get some circulation. Depending kn room size, A small fan should be enough circulation. Point it away from the Tubs. You dont want direct airflow on them.
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Yeah I cracked the windows in the room and 2 layers seem to be working, just needs that air current. Things look like they are progressing nicely. I'll post updates when the pinset fills in
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Very hard to dial in the micropore in my room, 2 layers bottom seemed to be lacking FAE, but keeping RH optimal, and anything lower than 2 layers I had to mist twice a day at least. Resulted in pinsets much weaker than polyfill, and 10x the amount of work. Something special about polyfill being able to regulate RH and provide adequate FAE
Looks like I gotta go back to poly
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Figured I'd update this thread with results, I stuck to using micropore. Some people have success with 1 layer, 2 layer, etc. What I learned is not one configuration works for everyone - it really depends on your environment and strain. You have to dial it in accordingly. I managed to have much better success with micropore than I ever did with poly.


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nice flush
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