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qman
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Re: Peaceful Protest [Re: Shenmue] 2
#26912165 - 09/01/20 03:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shenmue said: George Floyd was a criminal. He literally held a gun up to a pregnant woman's stomach. Fuck George floyd.. He shouldn't have died like that but he was a horrible person.
George floyd died from od'ing
Ehhhh..... we don't know that. But we don't know that it was the knee, either. The point is we don't know... but I think it was likely a combination of both.
And the cops hold the responsibility of his well-being while in custody. So next time, let someone die of an OD in custody and don't have your knee into his neck for 10 minutes.
More black men kill police officers than the other way around. Does that bother you at all?
My main concern is how the police treat citizens, there's no reason why they can't follow the law and still do their job at the time. Being a police officer involves some risks, what does that have to do with abusing citizens for no lawful reason?
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Re: Peaceful Protest [Re: qman]
#26912171 - 09/01/20 03:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I agree with Q here
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Re: Peaceful Protest [Re: qman]
#26912175 - 09/01/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think everyone here agrees cops shouldn't abuse citizens for unlawful reasons. The question is at what point do cops have a right to defend themselves? Some would argue these cops that Vahn posted earlier waited too long.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I think everyone here agrees cops shouldn't abuse citizens for unlawful reasons. The question is at what point do cops have a right to defend themselves? Some would argue these cops that Vahn posted earlier waited too long. 
It's definitely a case by case basis, but what has been 'normal' policing tactics in the past is no longer acceptable by the public in the present.
I would suggest that law enforcement and the defenders of the police are still living in the past and still haven't adjusted to the next level of transparency (video) and public expectations.
There's two ways of going about this issue. Law enforcement can do some major self reflection and realize that change is inevitable, or they can demonize the public as the enemy like they do in most cases. Unfortunately, The Elite aren't very generous when it comes to social and economic inequality in the US and are very hesitant to give up any position of power over the working class. The US isn't in a good place today and we could start looking like a failed state in MANY parts of the nation.
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Re: Peaceful Protest [Re: qman]
#26912664 - 09/01/20 07:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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