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PF Tek Lots of Pins Veils Breaking 1
#26911809 - 09/01/20 12:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm in the middle of my first grow using the PF Tek with 1/2 pint BRF jars. I had one jar that started to pin while still in the jar after about 90% colonization. In general the jars took a long time to colonize (8 weeks or so).
I decided to birth the pinning jar early and build a small SGFC using a food container. The SGFC has 1/4" holes spaced 2 inches apart all around on each side. I got a massive pin set after about a week. However, the cake appears to be fruiting really slowly now. This is roughly the 6th day since the first pins appeared. It also now looks like the veils are starting to break on a few of them.
I have been misting/fanning 3 times per day and fanning an additional 2 or 3 times as well. Temps are consistently 69 to 73 degrees F. Humidity has been between 85 and 92% each time I have checked. Last night I also placed the cake in a saucer of water for 12 hours as I had read a post where RR mentioned that helps with a cake that has a large pin set. Any thoughts on how best to handle this are appreciated!
EDIT: Some additional info - strain is B+ and I used MS.



Edited by 2new (09/01/20 12:16 PM)
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Re: PF Tek Lots of Pins Veils Breaking [Re: 2new]
#26911828 - 09/01/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I always soak overnight with a zip lock in the fridge. Maybe your temps aren't warm enough, they grow in the wild and fruit around 85°f
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Re: PF Tek Lots of Pins Veils Breaking [Re: Dirt Mcgurt]
#26911837 - 09/01/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Isn't 85 a little too much?
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Re: PF Tek Lots of Pins Veils Breaking [Re: mangaka911]
#26911839 - 09/01/20 12:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lol never thought id see a cambro sgfc. I love it.
The cake was made slightly too wet. They'll be fine
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Re: PF Tek Lots of Pins Veils Breaking [Re: tryptkaloids]
#26911844 - 09/01/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Let it dry in there a little more from time to time
The only humidity that matters is the humidity of the microclimate around the cake. Therefore a hydrometer isn't going to tell you what you need
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Re: PF Tek Lots of Pins Veils Breaking [Re: tryptkaloids]
#26911856 - 09/01/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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tryptkaloids said: Lol never thought id see a cambro sgfc. I love it.
The cake was made slightly too wet. They'll be fine
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tryptkaloids said: Let it dry in there a little more from time to time
The only humidity that matters is the humidity of the microclimate around the cake. Therefore a hydrometer isn't going to tell you what you need
Awesome - Thanks for the quick replies! So should I maybe skip a mist today (especially since I set in a saucer of water overnight)? Also, any concerns about what appears to be a veil breaking in the second picture?
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Re: PF Tek Lots of Pins Veils Breaking [Re: 2new]
#26911863 - 09/01/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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When they don't form a veil or it breaks early it's because the cake was made too wet.
Its not as cut and dry as set a schedule and tweak it...
Just Give it a chance to dry, evaporation is important
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Re: PF Tek Lots of Pins Veils Breaking [Re: tryptkaloids]
#26911904 - 09/01/20 12:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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tryptkaloids said: When they don't form a veil or it breaks early it's because the cake was made too wet.
Its not as cut and dry as set a schedule and tweak it...
Just Give it a chance to dry, evaporation is important
Good info - I'll let it go for a while to dry out and report back!
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Re: PF Tek Lots of Pins Veils Breaking [Re: 2new]
#26914195 - 09/02/20 05:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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So it's been more than 24 hours. I have only lightly misted a couple times. I also have been leaving the lid upside down so it is not fully sealed around the edges. The cake does feel sort of heavy when I pick it up, so my guess is it is still too wet. That being said, I have seen very minimal growth since my last post. It is now 7 or 8 days since the cake started to pin. Any other tips? Should I stop misting all togetehr for a couple days? At this rate the mushrooms won't be grown for another week or so, which seems really unusual.

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Re: PF Tek Lots of Pins Veils Breaking [Re: 2new]
#26914204 - 09/02/20 05:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Misting has almost nothing to do with the moisture of the substrate and everything to do with the microclimate.
That being said evaporation is important and letting them dry a little wouldn't hurt.
Those pins look like they are about to abort
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Re: PF Tek Lots of Pins Veils Breaking [Re: tryptkaloids]
#26919594 - 09/05/20 03:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Update - I ended up cracking the lid a bit to increase FAE. It seemed to help growth a bit. I pulled them all today, and despite them all being tiny ended up with around 3 grams dried. Still a bit baffled how they were so consistently small though.

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Re: PF Tek Lots of Pins Veils Breaking [Re: 2new]
#26919648 - 09/05/20 04:05 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks great to me! Cool Terrium creation there
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Re: PF Tek Lots of Pins Veils Breaking [Re: 2new]
#26920244 - 09/05/20 10:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Have you tried them yet? How are your thoughts about the potency of them?
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Re: PF Tek Lots of Pins Veils Breaking [Re: diegosf]
#26924999 - 09/08/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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diegosf said: Have you tried them yet? How are your thoughts about the potency of them?
I did, just a small dose because I thought they may pack more of a punch. However, they seemed to be normal potency.
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Re: PF Tek Lots of Pins Veils Breaking [Re: 2new]
#26925046 - 09/08/20 05:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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aborts being more potent is just a consolation ppl used to tell beginners
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