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Age old question. Powdered shroom storage
    #26911262 - 09/01/20 06:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Edit: If this should be in cultivation, please move :smile:

Hey Fellas. So, I have a conundrum I'd like the hive mind to help me solve.

I want more consistency when dosing. The one way I can see for more consistency is powdering a large amount of shrooms. No, I'm not an avid grower who is going to be isolating strains any time soon.

If I powder a large amount of shrooms and consume them over the course of a year or two, do I need to worry about loss of potency?

The plan I have in my mind: Powder and mix a couple ounces, or maybe just 1 ounce. Break up into maybe 14g piles and add to 4 small jars (if 2oz.) each with desiccant packs. Store in a dark, dry, room temperature place.

How long would an untouched jar last like this? I figure if I only need to dip into a jar 2 or 3 times to dose that keeps air exposure to a minimum and doesn't expose the entire batch with having separate jars.

Do you think powdering 1oz is pretty good for consistency? Or should I go for 2oz? Honestly, 2 ounces might take me and the wife quite a while to go through. Maybe 2 years.

The stock I have was homegrown about 6 months ago. They were immediately dehydrated after harvest and stored in bags that were placed into jars with desiccant packs.

I see people talking about freezing, but I though that was completely useless for cubes? The name of the game is no light and no moisture right?

Also, I heard capsules dull down the trip so I'm leaning towards no on that.

Thanks all.


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Edited by McDominator (09/01/20 07:41 AM)


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Re: Age old question. Powdered shroom storage [Re: McDominator]
    #26911352 - 09/01/20 07:55 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

If it would take so long to use even 2oz then encapsulating them might not be a bad idea, unless you plan on making teas. The less air exposure the better and as far as I know capsules should be air tight. You just want to make sure it's stored with the least amount of air as possible. If you don't want to encapsulate, put it in a Ziploc and squeeze all the air out, then stuff the Ziploc in a jar. Powdering increases surface area for total contact with air making the process of oxidation happen faster if it's not stored in appropriate conditions. So as long as you get the air out and store it somewhere cool/dark it should be okay with little if any loss in potency.


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Re: Age old question. Powdered shroom storage [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26911622 - 09/01/20 10:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks.

I was looking at these:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CRPL8BQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Little tiny jars so I can fill them up, no room for air. I ordered some, so I guess we will see what happens. I supposed I should stick to 1oz? You think that be enough to get decent consistency? If I could blend all 7oz I have I would.


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Re: Age old question. Powdered shroom storage [Re: McDominator]
    #26911650 - 09/01/20 10:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

If you grew ms then Idk how grinding them actually changes much.

I would be concerned about surface area increase, I dont think it would be worth it


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Re: Age old question. Powdered shroom storage [Re: The Mycologist]
    #26911670 - 09/01/20 11:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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The Mycologist said:
If you grew ms then Idk how grinding them actually changes much.

I would be concerned about surface area increase, I dont think it would be worth it




Grinding them all up and mixing them together would take all of the weak and the potent shrooms and average them for a consistent potency. One day I took 3.5g and I might as well have taken 4.5g. Another day I took 3.5g and it might as well have been 2g. It's been wildly different. I need some kind of consistency out of this batch :frown:

Edit: And yes, unfortunately this is a ms grow.


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Re: Age old question. Powdered shroom storage [Re: McDominator]
    #26911677 - 09/01/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Hmm well I guess powdered is the only option.

I just wonder if its in part the nature of shrooms and maybe tolerance that is leading you to not have consistent experiences.


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Re: Age old question. Powdered shroom storage [Re: The Mycologist]
    #26911680 - 09/01/20 11:09 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I think you could try a middle approach too

Just grab from different shrooms to make up your dose.


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Re: Age old question. Powdered shroom storage [Re: The Mycologist]
    #26911699 - 09/01/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Hmm well I guess powdered is the only option.

I just wonder if its in part the nature of shrooms and maybe tolerance that is leading you to not have consistent experiences.




I wondered about tolerance. I like to wait 2 weeks between doses, mostly for my sanity. One trip I didn't feel a damn thing until 45 minutes in on an empty stomach. The next, I felt strong vibes hitting in 15 minutes! (I grind with a coffee grinder for quicker digestion).

After a strong trip do you think 2 weeks is enough time? I hear of people dosing 3 days later and being just fine.

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The Mycologist said:
I think you could try a middle approach too

Just grab from different shrooms to make up your dose.




Hmmm. I tried something like this too. I usually pull out one that the veil tore, one where it didn't, etc. And then I blend both my dose and the wife's dose together.

Wish I could start growing again. I'd like to have a nice isolated strain. Wonder if any of the good folks on this site would be willing to send me a clean sample of a nice strain for the next time I grow :mushroom2:


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Re: Age old question. Powdered shroom storage [Re: McDominator]
    #26911723 - 09/01/20 11:34 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Since it is a MS grow you SHOULD grind them. Idk why you'd be advised otherwise...


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Re: Age old question. Powdered shroom storage [Re: LosTresOjos] * 1
    #26911905 - 09/01/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

For longtime storage you have to keep the powder airtight, cool and dark.

That's why I make shroom chocolates:

- melt dark chocolate in a hot waterbath
- grind shrooms to dust (electric coffeegrinders are under 20 bucks at amazon)
- stirr the shroompowder slowly into the melted chocolate
- keep stirring till it's a homogeneous mixture
- pour the melted chocolte into ice-cube trays, or silicone candy trays
- let cool and harden
- wrap the pralines in tinfoil & keep in fridge

Chocolates made this way keep good and potent for up to a decade.
I once ate such a chocolate that was more than two years old and it was still as potent as on the first day. :thumbup:

Use simple math to determine the dosage. I have candy trays for 15 heart-shaped pralines.
One full praline is little more than 10g of chocolate. I use 135g of chocolate and 15g of shrooms (135 + 15 = 150 = 15 x 10) to fill up the tray. So I end up with 15 pralines of 10g each containing 1g of shrooms.

Densed inside the chocolate the shrooms get never in contact with oxigen nor light. Chocolate doesn't mold nor degrades in any way, so kept cold these pralines last for years. :sun:

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Re: Age old question. Powdered shroom storage [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26913213 - 09/02/20 06:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)



Air tight, dark, cool space, like many other spices.

:thumbsup:


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Re: Age old question. Powdered shroom storage [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26913234 - 09/02/20 06:38 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Air tight, dark, cool space, like many other spices.

:thumbsup:




Awesome!! How long have you kept it that way with no noticeable potency loss?

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Pandemoon, not gonna lie making chocolates sounds pretty tempting. Thanks for the writeup :smile: will save that in case I feel like trying this sometime.

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Since it is a MS grow you SHOULD grind them. Idk why you'd be advised otherwise...




Dang, that's what I thought!!

Just so everyone knows, I made some purchases.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01D2OHBHU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VRLT7RI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

5ml and 15ml bottles. And .25g desiccant packs to fit in them :laugh:

Figured with the large and small sizes I can mix and match for doses. They are basically like giant pill capsules lol.


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Re: Age old question. Powdered shroom storage [Re: McDominator]
    #26913517 - 09/02/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Over 1 year.


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Age old question. Powdered shroom storage [Re: HamHead]
    #26913523 - 09/02/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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HamHead said:
Over 1 year.




Frikin sweet. Thanks man, that's the sort of thing I needed to hear!


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