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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26923403 - 09/07/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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If you misted your last one the whole time that could’ve caused problems from too much water sitting around. As the surface gets colonized water will naturally start to bead up on it.




Especially if you were going ham misting the tub before it was even fully colonized/consolidated.

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Cult is for sure addicting. I started less than a year ago planning on growing a couple ounces and now I’ve given all my friends a lifetime supply and I’ve gotten to grow and try mushrooms I had no idea even existed until recently.




Ditto my man. Ditto.


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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26923429 - 09/07/20 05:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26924681 - 09/08/20 01:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I believe something in my technique was wrong and not truly understanding the mono tub mechanics. This time I santized thoroughly with 99 percent alcohol, let dry for a few seconds wiped up excess and dumped and closed the lid I’m letting it does what it does for about a week. If it’s failed then I’ll know it wasn’t fully colonized cause I dumped 2 quarts of grain in a 14 quart tub one was the one pictured above, and another that was the same except for the top 20 percent so if it works then ima be jumping for jar


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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26924686 - 09/08/20 01:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah my new motto is let go and let grow. Lol, cause the substrate was already pre soaked and had amazing reviews online and then I misted and fanned like a true asshole the following days after so I just dumped colonized in a tub and I’m fruiting what I got before i invest anymore. It is what it is and will work out to what My higher powers deem fit if any.


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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: funeralfather]
    #26933451 - 09/13/20 01:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quick Update

14 quart Attempt #3

Consolidation approx day 4-5

It’s dry?

When would you mist mycelium?



Would you give it another week or keep checking?


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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: funeralfather]
    #26933458 - 09/13/20 01:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

No bulk sub???


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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: The Fresh Prints]
    #26933518 - 09/13/20 02:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah what’s going on here? The grain doesn’t look colonized  to me.

If you just put grain in a tub and then added myc it’s not gonna go well.

If it was already colonized and you’re trying to fruit it without coir then it would need to be soaked to rehydrate it.


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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: Rhizomorph]
    #26933584 - 09/13/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah don't use peroxide. It's a waste of time.

Just dump it and work on your sterile technique. It's pretty hard to get cobweb so if that actually is cobweb you messed up pretty bad somewhere. It could just be luck of the draw but more often than not cobweb stems from improper technique.

Not to worry it's all about learning!




I actually got really good at growing cobweb mold in the beginning lol.
Thought it was mycellium i was so happy that in a couple days i already had what i thought was mycelium.
Am now succeeding.


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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: funeralfather]
    #26933738 - 09/13/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You gotta add the colonized rye berries to a bulk substrate (e.g coconut coir). The colonized rye is just spawn. mix it together with some coconut coir that is hydrated to field capacity (link below for how to do that - or just do 1000mL boiling water per 200g of coir)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24077162

Once at field capacity you thoroughly mix the coir with about 1 part spawn (colonized rye) to 2 parts coir. Some even prefer to do a 1:3 or 1:4 mix but I find 1:2 perfect. anything between 1:2 and 1:4 should be fine though.

It doesn't appear to be too late to mix your spawn with coir, but if you just throw spawn into a tub it will do very poorly (spawn doesn't hold moisture very well)

If you set it up right with the bulk substrate you should only need to mist about once a week, if at all. of course without the bulk substrate you will be misting it VERY frequently...


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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: Rhizomorph]
    #26935089 - 09/14/20 11:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Well I guess ima throw this box away then I don’t have coir I’m not putting anymore money into it.


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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: funeralfather]
    #26935131 - 09/14/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I mean you can find a brick of coir for like $3 and you seem to have everything else you need. But I won't tell ya what to do :thumbup:


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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: funeralfather]
    #26935167 - 09/14/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I grew directly into substrate through 1 quart jars. Btw


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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: funeralfather]
    #26935177 - 09/14/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

My question is by misting very lightly with distilled water around edges cause any issues or should I let it consolidate a little more if you look above one of the jars was fully colonized, another 75 I just checked and it’s rye berry substrate direct to fruit.  I could be wrong but I don’t have money for 24 dollar coco coir bricks nor the patience to fool with that nor buy subs off intergalactic so I’m doing the best can I can see it’s still consolidation. Would a mist cause growth it did on the last tub a blue green mold.  I’d like to do this as cheap and Minimal as possible to just see one fruit.


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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: Rhizomorph]
    #26935179 - 09/14/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I’m looking at Lowe’s and shit, I have a good sub that I bought on amazon through galactic no negative ratings.  But my dumb as begin misting and fanning before consolidation along with probably less colonization then I tried peroxid and got cobweb. It’s buried I haven’t check if you look at the post you can see the time I’ve been having with it bro not meaning to be a dick. I just am fed up man I suck at this


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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: funeralfather]
    #26935223 - 09/14/20 01:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Mushroom cult, growing cubes at least, is really easy but only if you have the proper equipment and knowledge.

Using spore syringes you’ll always have a hole in your game. You can be as sterile as possible and still fail because your inoculate was compromised but sometimes it will work fine if you don’t make any mistakes. If you start with a PC, spore print, a sleeve or two of Petri dishes, scalpel, at least 66qt SAB, and MEA You will have clean myc ready to either drop wedges in your grain jars or make an LC/LI.

Spawn to coir and vermiculite in shoe boxes and you can’t go wrong. As long as you don’t mess with them anyway.

If you don’t wanna spend a little $$ I don’t know what to tell you. There’s really no shortcuts to mushrooms. Not consistently anyway


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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: funeralfather]
    #26935243 - 09/14/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: funeralfather]
    #26935290 - 09/14/20 02:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

If you have a substrate mixed in you should be good. There's just no sub in the pictures you shared is all (unless it is buried underneath lol). So that's why I mentioned it. Mind you, pre-made substrates can be hit or miss. Usually better off just making your own but if you can't do that then ya gotta do what ya gotta do I suppose.

You can also prepare horse manure if you know any local areas with horses. Just makes sure the manure has been sitting in the sun for a few days & looks all dry and whatnot.

You can also get a coco coir brick online here for $4.50: https://www.shroomsupply.com/raw-ingredients/organic-coconut-coir-brick?zenid=prrirmhvft3pv8g71qpf1djne7

I would just follow a TEK on here to a T and if you're limited on supplies or money I would stick to the PF Tek. Attempting any TEK assumes you have the money for all the materials in the TEK. Anywhere that you do something different (e.g. using a pre-made substrate instead of preparing your own coir) opens you up to higher chances of getting contamination."Bods easy AF TEK" in my signature is a super reliable and easy way to do the PF tek without buying perlite and a fruiting chamber if you want to do a grow with next to no materials whatsoever. (literally just spores, vermiculite, brown rice flower, a mason jar, and some stuff you should have sitting around your house is all you need.)

Otherwise ya gotta fork over some cash to get the right materials for growing in bulk.

As a new cultivator your best bet is to always follow a TEK otherwise you risk not having a clue what you're doing. The people who know what they're doing only know what they know because they have seen mushrooms grow firsthand in different environments & conditions for ages so they know exactly what the mushrooms like. Me and you on the other hand just need to know how to follow the directions of a TEK and all the environmental conditions will be near-perfect from the get-go.

Once you have 20+ grows under your belt you can try experimenting with slightly different conditions on your own to see if it makes a difference for the culture you are working with (genetics play a role), the climate you are in (height above sea level, temperature, and weather make a difference), etc. But none of these will prevent you from actually growing mushrooms unless you live in an igloo. This is just done to try to increase the potency and weight of the fruits.

Focus on following TEKs more accurately until you actually get some fruits before you start doing your own methods.


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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: Rhizomorph]
    #26935398 - 09/14/20 03:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Was the grain colonized in jars before you dumped it into the tub?

Those are no where near needing mist, there’s hardly any mycelium.


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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26940335 - 09/17/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yes look above one jar 90 and the other perhaps 70. Should I wait for a few weeks I’m getting more myc growth in a dark closet in a tub


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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: funeralfather]
    #26940405 - 09/17/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It’s hard to decipher what’s going on here, or if it’s for real. Did you put uncolonized grain spawn in a tub? Is that what you meant by one jar at 90 and one at 70? Like that was the percent they were colonized...if so it’s almost definitely mold that you’re growing.

And if you leave it in the dark for weeks it might kill you when you finally open the closet again. With a garrote. Healthy cube myc colonizes and does it’s thing pretty quickly.


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