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funeralfather
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I’ve got coconut fiber compacted and smooshed and boiled once ima do one more boil cause I touched the coconut fiber later tonight I have my jar that I just dumped Colonized rye berries in a 14 quart tub. I plan to boil the coconut fibers and let it cool later tonight and ima mix them tomorrow cake was looking dry in tub so I spritzed with distilled water. Checking tub later tonight to see if I need to spritz hydrogen again around edges. I’ll update y’all later or tomorrow on how it all went. If it goes ok I’m keeping those in tub and seeing what pops up. If it goes bad should I get a bag or two of straw hay to cover the ground after I dig a whole and place substrate in it for outdoor production maybe Mother Nature can save me I really don’t wanna lose this grow cause I’m down to 2 quarts of inoculated rye left. I can get more jars and I got more syringes but I don’t wanna waste money when I got a car payment starting to come now.
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Yeah don't use peroxide. It's a waste of time.
Just dump it and work on your sterile technique. It's pretty hard to get cobweb so if that actually is cobweb you messed up pretty bad somewhere. It could just be luck of the draw but more often than not cobweb stems from improper technique.
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funeralfather said: Got 3 acres no neighbors within seeing distance expecially if I put it in the old cow pasture I’ll use that as a last resort. I shouldn’t of worked on the tub while stoned lol, I used h2o2 and got rid of a lot of that growth. No smells and it looked sorta like mycelium but I sprayed just in case and had a little puddle up on top of casing, my dumbass tries to turn it over and drained it luckily I drained it off mycelium but the cake broke and about fell out. But I saved it so provided I didn’t kill it with all that. Do you know if I can just fruit out of jar and into a tub? this substrates a little difficult to do and I just wanna get a harvest this is my second attempt at this and my jars are ready
Bury it in a shallow grave under a shade tree. See what happens
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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: seand04] 2
#26912250 - 09/01/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Preferably in a Maine hayfield, then mark it with a rock that has no earthly business being there.
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So I shouldn’t go check it?
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funeralfather
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Cause I’m think of just fruiting in bags until I get comfortable to graduate to tubs I’m going to check it now
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I’m so disappointed, sorry to revive this but I’m really let down on this happening.
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Did you chuck it outside? I chuck all my waste in my compost bin, and there were a couple little cubes growing below that the other day.
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Did you use a spore syringe to nocc up your grain? That would be the #1 cause of contamination, buying premade stuff is another one that often goes wrong I’ve noticed.
If you only want to use spore syringes then BRF cakes are the way to go. You can use them to spawn to coir in shoe boxes or just fruit as cakes.
Coir itself is super cheap, like $10-12 For 3 bricks which could do many shoe boxes.
If you’re going to use grains though you really want to germinate your spores on agar and then transfer clean myc to the grains.
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Yes I did use spore syringes, into rye grain but I see no contamination in my jars I believe my technique was correct, I believe where I failed was buying pre made subs just cause it was reviewed well, from there I did the transfer following step for step, now could my sterilization be a factor probably. But I’m not seeing any problems on my other smaller box except for it being dry and not fully colonized so it’s probably going to get tossed to if I don’t see colonization. I took what’s posted out of mono tub last night I buried it in a shallow grave about 1 1/2 inches deep with dirt if I lose both of these then it is what it is. Probably my angel looking out for me cause I’m not sure I’m mentally ready to trip but I gotta try something other then what I been doing for mental health.
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Dumped all my jars, and crushed all my mono tubs fuck this stupid shit. Y’all may be good at it but it’s a waste of time and money to me
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I guess something’s wrong with these too huh?

Oh well it’s at the bottom of the goddamn trash fuck this stupid shit I’d probably fuck these jars up too so I decided to throw everything away
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It’s fully colonized so it should fruit at least one good flush.
I’d either make a shoebox with a small amount of coir or just take the lid off the jar and fill it up with coir and put a bag with tiny holes poked in it on top.
If you only have syringes brf cakes would be the best bet. Or make paste with it and use it like agar first until you have for sure clean myc to put into grains.
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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: A.k.a]
#26922776 - 09/07/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for your response. I dumped it in a sanitized monotub if it doesn’t work in a week I’m throwing this shit away and being done with it. Ima fuck it up like every single one of the ones I’ve had before so what’s the point I didn’t flush anything like the fuck up I am. So i just dumped the jar in the tub if I lose it I expect it so it’s whatever. Sorry for my pessimism, I’m having a really difficult time when I realized how much money that’s been wasted on this shit
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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: A.k.a]
#26922782 - 09/07/20 10:22 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah what, making bags that’s too much if I can’t fruit in jar or just dump in tub and have it fruit that way then I’ll probably just dump this since it’s just going be a waste of time since I haven’t done any of that.
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If you do it yourself the pc is the only expensive thing.
After that 60 bucks should grow pounds.
lol so if it requires minimal effort then fuck it. Good strategy.
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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: A.k.a]
#26922789 - 09/07/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well do you think i fucked up making a monotub? I dumped 2 quarts in there one wasn’t as colonized but ima let it sit for a week and give it a week cause I already stomped one tub into a thousand pieces. Thank you for taking time outta your day to help me
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90% of the people on these forums had their first grow contaminate. It's only easy once you have lots of experience.
If you already bought all the supplies then sure it didn't pay off in your first grow, but with some time & patience you can improve your technique and the supplies should last you through many subsequent grows.
What makes the difference between success & failure is whether or not you can face a loss as a challenge/with grit, rather than giving up on it. Keep in mind your locus of control (how much you feel like you can control the situation) has a significant impact too. You can gain more control over your grow by trying again and doing more reading into sterile techniques.
I totally understand that growing can feel helpless - every shroomery member has probably been there at one point. For me it was facing bacillus (a type of bacteria) that kept contaminating my BRF jars. After 4+ failed grows I finally learned that adjusting the amount I was injecting + sterilizing a bit longer since the lid on my pot wasn't tight made the difference.
All I'm saying is that your grow isn't a complete failure/worth throwing everything away. It is one bump in the road to success and you can either et it break you or you can learn from it and it becomes something positive. I have 100% confidence that if you push through this and see it as a learning experience you will find success in consecutive grows.
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Re: Is this normal growth ? [Re: Rhizomorph]
#26923208 - 09/07/20 02:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you! I was really disappointed today to see both tubs go badly, ima try my own way implementing others ideas and see how far that gets I got 4 more syringes to use if this goes awry and I just keep dumping it all around outside so maybe I’ll be back thanking you even more. I will admit the challenge to this is addicting I’m just hoping leftover alcohol residue won’t cause any problems to this box. Ok so when it’s in tub, I let it sit for a week and don’t bother opening it right? My last problems I think came from substrate, insufficiency in santization and the smaller tub, I think I opened it and begin fanning immediately, along with misting with distilled water. This time ima sit and forget. Once again thank you and many blessings, to deal with me you have a tremendous amount of patience.
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If you’re using coir anything that goes wrong is usually gonna be related to dirty spawn. Coir is very resistant to contamination which is why it’s used. Opening it to check won’t cause problems either as long as the grain was totally colonized when you spawned it.
The good thing about tubs is you don’t ever have to fan and rarely need to mist them. If you misted your last one the whole time that could’ve caused problems from too much water sitting around. As the surface gets colonized water will naturally start to bead up on it.
One thing that screwed me up at first was thinking that misting was to help water the mushrooms. All the water they need is in the coir, the mist is only to keep the beads on the surface so they can evaporate and trigger pins.

Cult is for sure addicting. I started less than a year ago planning on growing a couple ounces and now I’ve given all my friends a lifetime supply and I’ve gotten to grow and try mushrooms I had no idea even existed until recently.
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