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Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance?
#26911198 - 09/01/20 05:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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A very controversial topic up ahead, lets set the tone for it.
Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance?
For Americans this is less credible as your neighboring countries are weaker, but imagine China or Russia did a tactically unrealistic but successful mass invasion and hold down part of or all of your land under their rules.
Would you become a terrorist/freedom fighter, do the roadside IED and crossfire ambush thing, join a Rocket Brigade to fly drainpipes with fertilizer into enemy bases, would you engage in active sabotage of the hostile force occupying your country you get the picture.
If your country was overwhelmed and held down by a foreign military force, would you be part of the armed struggle to drive them out or would you lead a civilian life hoping it all went away?
I emphasize, your nation was invaded and is held down by a foreign military aggressor.
Please take the poll and discuss.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Asante] 1
#26911318 - 09/01/20 07:34 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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To fight and risk my life for freedom would be a dream come true.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Asante] 1
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I would want to but it would be irresponsible of me because I have two small children. I would be obligated to do whatever I had to to keep them safe.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26911343 - 09/01/20 07:48 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I like to think that if a country occupied my little country, that I'd take part in the resistance.
At 375lbs I'm not one to run around in the night but I could be a great asset to the Resistance, enabling them in other ways than by direct action.
I probably would. Be it any of the surrounding big nations, they should keep their paws off my beloved country, unless I agree with the occupation. (such as temporary occupation by the UN for the removal of a rogue government)
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: larry.fisherman]
#26911345 - 09/01/20 07:50 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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larry.fisherman said: I would want to but it would be irresponsible of me because I have two small children. I would be obligated to do whatever I had to to keep them safe.
Valid.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 5
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It would be far from a dream come true to me, and I wouldn't fight unless I had to in order to protect my wellbeing or my family's. War is hellish bullshit that is glamorized by people that don't have to fight it. Which is why I am so scared by the ridiculous amount of political division and the casual civil war jokes that get tossed around about the states right now(not on shroomery necessarily, just in general). No outside power has to actually invade us. We'll fucking willingly tear ourselves apart from the inside, and do the killing for them.
I would try an aid the fight in a nonviolent way as a civilian - I can't fight, I can't hit, I can't shoot. But I am coolheaded in a high adrenaline situations, I know basic first aid and I can cook, sew, have IT skills, so I would try and help out in the ways that I could, try and tend to the wounded. I would try really hard to avoid taking up arms though, and I'd probably be looking to flee. A whole chunk of my family tree was lost in concentration camps and war already. I'd listen to perhaps the greatest lesson of my great grandfather and try to gtfo and stay out of that nonsense.
If I couldn't and was trapped and forced to deal with it, then I'd fight. But first I'd try to remain a civilian while looking for a way out.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: pirate-blues]
#26911362 - 09/01/20 08:01 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would fight. Oddly I think it would give a lot of us meaning in life...
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: pirate-blues]
#26911363 - 09/01/20 08:01 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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War is hellish bullshit that is glamorized by people that don't have to fight it.
Almost everybody that wasnt messed up to begin with, will be after having gone through it.
We modern folk are very ill equipped to spend months in constant fear, watching people get blown to pieces and shooting others, and how that looks and knowing it could be you from a blind side you didnt anticipate at any time.
It fucks with us in ways that take a lifetime to unfuck, if ever.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Asante]
#26911464 - 09/01/20 08:57 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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War is hellish bullshit that is glamorized by people that don't have to fight it.
Almost everybody that wasnt messed up to begin with, will be after having gone through it.
We modern folk are very ill equipped to spend months in constant fear, watching people get blown to pieces and shooting others, and how that looks and knowing it could be you from a blind side you didnt anticipate at any time.
It fucks with us in ways that take a lifetime to unfuck, if ever.
I highly doubt it'll be England next time lol. We taught them a lesson. Americans are crazy ...
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: larry.fisherman]
#26911473 - 09/01/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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larry.fisherman said: I would want to but it would be irresponsible of me because I have two small children. I would be obligated to do whatever I had to to keep them safe.
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No I agree with you, just reminded me of the line from the Mel Gibson movie
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Shenmue]
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Shenmue]
#26911479 - 09/01/20 09:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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lol we both refrenced the patriot at the same time
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: gopher]
#26911487 - 09/01/20 09:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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No I agree with you, just reminded me of the line from the Mel Gibson movie
If they were a few years older I'd probably say yes because at that point they'd definitely remember me and my values well and not be so dependent. Probably maybe 10 years old each and I'd probably not be able to say no to China-Nazi WW3. Luckily, I'm hella at the vidya games. I can be elite drone pilot pew pew. WW3 is basically going to be an MLG event anyway, with robots and aliens. And Mel Gibson
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Shenmue]
#26911496 - 09/01/20 09:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I highly doubt it'll be England next time lol. We taught them a lesson. Americans are crazy ...
We can safely assume that it wont beb Britain and if it were, that your resistance fighters would be labelled terrorists. In the 1980s the British government even labelled those who fought against the Apartheid regime as terrorists.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: larry.fisherman] 2
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No I agree with you, just reminded me of the line from the Mel Gibson movie
If they were a few years older I'd probably say yes because at that point they'd definitely remember me and my values well and not be so dependent. Probably maybe 10 years old each and I'd probably not be able to say no to China-Nazi WW3. Luckily, I'm hella at the vidya games. I can be elite drone pilot pew pew. WW3 is basically going to be an MLG event anyway, with robots and aliens. And Mel Gibson
Whelp, my shit is fucked then because I'm ass at first person shooters.

so disorienting.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Asante]
#26911516 - 09/01/20 09:25 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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This would totally depend on the intentions of the invading force, which would be almost impossible to decipher. Is the invading force trying to topple our government, The Bully of the world? Would it just be a land grab? Would it be because "they hate us because of our freedom" (LOL)? Would our government/media be truthful with what there intentions are?
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Dilsnique]
#26911570 - 09/01/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Most Americans have gun's so I highly doubt it'll ever happen here. Unless joe Biden wins of course.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Shenmue]
#26911571 - 09/01/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Even a Japanese general during WW II said it would be entirely infeasible to invade the USA as there'd be a gun behind every window.
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#26911738 - 09/01/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hell naw, I would take my family and move overseas
I have plenty of marketable skills
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: larry.fisherman]
#26911747 - 09/01/20 11:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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larry.fisherman said: I would want to but it would be irresponsible of me because I have two small children. I would be obligated to do whatever I had to to keep them safe.
Wouldn't it be nice if a lot of other people (who are now dead) thought this way?
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: pirate-blues]
#26911751 - 09/01/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would try an aid the fight in a nonviolent way as a civilian - I can't fight, I can't hit, I can't shoot. But I am coolheaded in a high adrenaline situations, I know basic first aid and I can cook, sew, have IT skills, so I would try and help out in the ways that I could, try and tend to the wounded. I would try really hard to avoid taking up arms though, and I'd probably be looking to flee.
Me too.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26911755 - 09/01/20 11:51 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is one of the reasons I'm not voting for Biden. A possible 2nd shut down and a gun ban is something I'm not ok with. I would be willing to fight and die to prevent those things from happening. I honestly think he's a monster..
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That gun ban issue is just inflame people. Do you honestly think in a million years that ALL (or any) guns will be confiscated and/or destroyed? Really?
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Shenmue]
#26911766 - 09/01/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree with what Joe rogan said about biden. The democrats had their chance to pick a good person but they decided to pick a puppet with dementia. It's so fucked up and it's making me depressed. It's so obvious that Biden is being controlled. I don't understand how people don't see it..
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26911767 - 09/01/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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People around this neck of the woods are so conditioned to live in fear 'rexybaby - you can't blame them for feeling it when it's been so indoctrinated IMO - frustrating as it is to observe...
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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tyrannicalrex said: That gun ban issue is just inflame people. Do you honestly think in a million years that ALL (or any) guns will be confiscated and/or destroyed? Really?
Yes I do think their willing to do it! Other countries have already done it like Australia, Canada and in the uk. They've already done bans in some of the states like California! He fucking even said he's going to do it!!!
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Shenmue]
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He's at least going to ban rifles!! I'm not ok with that! You can't fight the police or an army with shotguns and pistols.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Shenmue]
#26911789 - 09/01/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Depends on if they suck more than what we already have. I wouldn't mind if like... Finland or something invaded and took over.
Not that that would be possible
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#26911791 - 09/01/20 12:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is kinda inappropriate but the Irish have some cheerful resistance songs..
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26911795 - 09/01/20 12:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: People around this neck of the woods are so conditioned to live in fear 'rexybaby - you can't blame them for feeling it when it's been so indoctrinated IMO - frustrating as it is to observe...
Conditioned to live in fear lol? How are Americans Conditioned to live in fear ? It's literally one of the safest places on the planet. No some people actually look at history and learn from it. Also some people actually want to protect the people they love.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Shenmue]
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Do you even realize how many guns there are in homes across the USA? do you know how many are being manufactured at this moment at a very high rate (now more than ever more than likely)? You also know that they are trying to ban only certain types/kinds of guns, right? I don't know much but I know the gist of the "gun ban" bullshit. Go to SE OK or ANY rural area of the USA and ask around, they'll gladly show you theirs and more than likely give their opinion on the matter I'm sure. That will NEVER EVER happen here, I guaran fucking tee you. I grew up in Texas, believe me, it will never happen.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Shenmue]
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Shenmue]
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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tyrannicalrex said: Do you even realize how many guns there are in homes across the USA? do you know how many are being manufactured at this moment at a very high rate (now more than ever more than likely)? You also know that they are trying to ban only certain types/kinds of guns, right? I don't know much but I know the gist of the "gun ban" bullshit. Go to SE OK or ANY rural area of the USA and ask around, they'll gladly show you theirs and more than likely give their opinion on the matter I'm sure. That will NEVER EVER happen here, I guaran fucking tee you. I grew up in Texas, believe me, it will never happen.
Yes I know its only certain kinds!!! They want to ban the ones you can actually fight with!!! Like I already said you can't fight the police or an army with shotguns and pistols. You can't even shoot through basic body armor with a shotgun!! So if you ban rifles you're literally destroying the 2nd amendment. Not only are you destroying the 2nd but rifles are almost never used in shootings. So once they see it doesn't fix anything they'll say they need to ban pistols next. Fuck that shit!! Im voting for trump.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Asante]
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Ok shenmue, so, like, you know there will be a HUMONGOUS market of a certain color that will make these available in abundance to several millions, right? You know there's no way in hell (unless the world is destroyed) that a law regarding turning in guns or anything akin to that will be laughed at uncontrollably?
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tyrannicalrex said: That gun ban issue is just inflame people. Do you honestly think in a million years that ALL (or any) guns will be confiscated and/or destroyed? Really?
My FIL says that there are certain issues which our elected officials will bring up each cycle to energize their base and raise money, promising that if they get elected they will do something or stop something from being done, all the while with no real intention of actually doing anything. In reality these issues are mostly decided law and it would take literal acts of congress or constitutional amendments to have any significant change.
The short list of these issues as follows; gun control, abortion, the environment, crime/drugs and civil rights.
I used to think he was wrong and their were real champions for change on either side, but a few decades of participation has taught me that he is right.
Now that the american public is acustomed to a do nothing legislature they think it is up to the courts and the executive to fix all the problems and the same logic of vote for me or the other side will get enough judges to overturn this issue is employed.
They will never take our guns just like they will never take away abortion fully.
If an invading force were to be offering to impose term limits, equalize campaign funding, remove lobbyists (forcibly sounds good) and restore our democracy to the functioning government that was intended I would take up arms with them
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The American Kratom Association are lobbyists, but I like what they throw their money behind
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Yes! I agree 100% so true!
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Jokeshopbeard
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Shenmue] 1
#26912183 - 09/01/20 03:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shenmue said: Conditioned to live in fear lol? How are Americans Conditioned to live in fear ?
Yes. You are a prime example.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26912220 - 09/01/20 03:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Shenmue]
#26912266 - 09/01/20 04:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sugabearcrisp said: Ar-15
 MA/NJ legal ar-15 (10 round mag)
 CA/NY legal ar-15

Yeah they made the ar-15 completely useless. The ar-15 is just a semi automatic rifle. Without a normal capacity it's no more lethal than a hunting rifle. The laws are so stupid that they believe that an adjustable stock makes the gun more dangerous. People in NJ get in trouble for hollow point 9mm rounds! Hollow points are designed so the bullet doesn't go through a person and hit whoever is behind them! That's seriously how stupid these far leftist politicians are.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Shenmue]
#26912270 - 09/01/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Joe Biden calls is an ar-14 and says it holds 19 rounds lol. In another interview he said they come with 100 round clips lol. He doesn't know what he's talking about. He's an idiot..
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26912356 - 09/01/20 04:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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tyrannicalrex said: Do you even realize how many guns there are in homes across the USA? do you know how many are being manufactured at this moment at a very high rate (now more than ever more than likely)? You also know that they are trying to ban only certain types/kinds of guns, right? I don't know much but I know the gist of the "gun ban" bullshit. Go to SE OK or ANY rural area of the USA and ask around, they'll gladly show you theirs and more than likely give their opinion on the matter I'm sure. That will NEVER EVER happen here, I guaran fucking tee you. I grew up in Texas, believe me, it will never happen.
Times have changed, modern countries don't bomb and invade each other anymore.
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Conventional weapons such as fighters, canons, missiles and battleships won’t do; neither will highly destructive weapons such as nuclear weapons. We are not as foolish as to want to perish together with America by using nuclear weapons, despite the fact that we have been exclaiming that we will have the Taiwan issue resolved at whatever cost. Only by using non-destructive weapons that can kill many people will we be able to reserve America for ourselves. There has been rapid development of modern biological technology, and new bio-weapons have been invented one after another. Of course, we have not been idle, in the past years we have seized the opportunity to master weapons of this kind. We are capable of achieving our purpose of “cleaning up” America all of a sudden. When Comrade Xiaoping was still with us, the Party Central Committee had the perspicacity to make the right decision not to develop aircraft carrier groups and focus instead on developing lethal weapons that can eliminate mass populations of the enemy country.
From a humanitarian perspective, we should issue a warning to the American people and persuade them to leave America and leave the land they have lived in to the Chinese people. Or at least they should leave half of the United States to be China’s colony, because America was first discovered by the Chinese. But would this work? If this strategy does not work, then there is only one choice left to us. That is, use decisive means to “clean up” America and reserve America for our use in a moment. Our historical experience has proven that as long as we make it happen, nobody in the world can do anything about us. Furthermore, if the United States as the leader is gone, then other enemies have to surrender to us.
Biological weapons are unprecedented in their ruthlessness, but if the Americans do not die then the Chinese have to die. If the Chinese people are strapped to the present land, a total societal collapse is bound to take place. (The Secret Speech of General Chi Haotian)
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26912360 - 09/01/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said:
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Shenmue said: Conditioned to live in fear lol? How are Americans Conditioned to live in fear ?
Yes. You are a prime example.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26912395 - 09/01/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tripsurfer said: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/safest-countries-in-the-world

You wish bro
These sorts of maps are deceptive, in that they don't take into account that the majority of the crime is in a few specific places, and it's commuted by one small segment of the population against everyone else. Violent crime, and crime in general is practically nonexistant in the overwhelming majority of the country.
They do the same thing with things like literacy rates. The US literacy rate is like 85 percent, which seems impossible until you realize that at least half of blacks in the US are functionally illiterate, and we have millions of Spanish speakers that never bother to learn english. When you exclude them, The rate jumps up significantly.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Shenmue] 1
#26912401 - 09/01/20 05:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Aaaand the true Texan comes out.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
#26912440 - 09/01/20 05:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Shenmue]
#26912567 - 09/01/20 06:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shenmue said: ... Yeah they made the ar-15 completely useless. The ar-15 is just a semi automatic rifle. Without a normal capacity it's no more lethal than a hunting rifle. The laws are so stupid that they believe that an adjustable stock makes the gun more dangerous. People in NJ get in trouble for hollow point 9mm rounds! Hollow points are designed so the bullet doesn't go through a person and hit whoever is behind them! That's seriously how stupid these far leftist politicians are.
My point was actually that it is still an ar-15, the bullet is still the same, a motivated person will become competent at using any of these to kill. Further all the parts to turn the cali weapon back to the original ar are easily had and uncontrolled.
While my point was missed your conclusion is the same as mine that gun control laws are silly, ineffective and for show. Again a hot button issue never to be solved for real.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Sugabearcrisp] 1
#26912706 - 09/01/20 08:05 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It honestly depends. If the invading force was worse than my current government and posed a severe threat to my country I would be inclined to participate. However I'm selfish as fuck and would only participate if there was a serious risk that unless I participate my family would be killed.
If I did have to participate, I would probably try and avoid direct combat, maybe use my technical skills to manufacture IEDs and other computer-related psyops
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: deadwk]
#26912712 - 09/01/20 08:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why avoid it? We're all going to die anyways.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Shenmue]
#26912730 - 09/01/20 08:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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because i'd rather die from an overdose of viagra trying to fuck my wife when im 80 than getting blown up by a bomb.
Edited by deadwk (09/01/20 08:25 PM)
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Shenmue
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: deadwk]
#26912741 - 09/01/20 08:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Then back to non-existence you go lol
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Shenmue]
#26912754 - 09/01/20 08:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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this is true, at the end of the day you're gone.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: deadwk]
#26913292 - 09/02/20 07:32 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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deadwk said: because i'd rather die from an overdose of viagra trying to fuck my wife when im 80 than getting blown up by a bomb.
Fuck yes!
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Shenmue
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: deadwk]
#26913590 - 09/02/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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deadwk said: because i'd rather die from an overdose of viagra trying to fuck my wife when im 80 than getting blown up by a bomb.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: blewmeanie]
#26913667 - 09/02/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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until you realize that at least half of blacks in the US are functionally illiterate, and we have millions of Spanish speakers that never bother to learn english. When you exclude them, The rate jumps up significantly.
Ow I see, black and Spanish people dont count as Americans. The researchers should only take white people into account because for them the US is a safe place
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26914380 - 09/02/20 06:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not even remotely close to the point I was trying to make about how it’s completely fucking useless and entirely deceptive to use simple averages to compare arbitrarily grouped populations with multiple dimensions of variability, but I’m not surprised that’s what you took from it. Some people can only see things in terms of race.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Asante] 1
#26914784 - 09/03/20 12:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I answered yes in the poll, but it's really easy to say that when it's just a hypothetical.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: blewmeanie] 1
#26915495 - 09/03/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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you are the one bringing up blacks and hispanics negatively skew the results
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26915591 - 09/03/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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That’s certainly how you took it.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: blewmeanie]
#26915618 - 09/03/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I probably wouldn't make it through the invasion, much less fight in the resistance after occupation, but I would take as many of them with me as I could before I went.
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: blewmeanie]
#26915673 - 09/03/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The US literacy rate is like 85 percent, which seems impossible until you realize that at least half of blacks in the US are functionally illiterate, and we have millions of Spanish speakers that never bother to learn english. When you exclude them, The rate jumps up significantly
That is literally what you are saying; black and spanish people bringing down US ratings
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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Tripsurfer] 1
#26915680 - 09/03/20 01:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tripsurfer said:
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The US literacy rate is like 85 percent, which seems impossible until you realize that at least half of blacks in the US are functionally illiterate, and we have millions of Spanish speakers that never bother to learn english. When you exclude them, The rate jumps up significantly
That is literally what you are saying; black and spanish people bringing down US ratings
And then YOU are the one making it about race
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