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Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance?
    #26911198 - 09/01/20 05:12 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

A very controversial topic up ahead, lets set the tone for it.





Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance?

For Americans this is less credible as your neighboring countries are weaker, but imagine China or Russia did a tactically unrealistic but successful mass invasion and hold down part of or all of your land under their rules.

Would you become a terrorist/freedom fighter, do the roadside IED and crossfire ambush thing, join a Rocket Brigade to fly drainpipes with fertilizer into enemy bases, would you engage in active sabotage of the hostile force occupying your country :blah: you get the picture.

If your country was overwhelmed and held down by a foreign military force, would you be part of the armed struggle to drive them out or would you lead a civilian life hoping it all went away?

I emphasize, your nation was invaded and is held down by a foreign military aggressor.

Please take the poll and discuss.


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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26911318 - 09/01/20 07:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

To fight and risk my life for freedom would be a dream come true.


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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26911327 - 09/01/20 07:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I would want to but it would be irresponsible of me because I have two small children. I would be obligated to do whatever I had to to keep them safe.


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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26911343 - 09/01/20 07:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I like to think that if a country occupied my little country, that I'd take part in the resistance.

At 375lbs I'm not one to run around in the night but I could be a great asset to the Resistance, enabling them in other ways than by direct action.

I probably would. Be it any of the surrounding big nations, they should keep their paws off my beloved country, unless I agree with the occupation. (such as temporary occupation by the UN for the removal of a rogue government)


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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26911345 - 09/01/20 07:50 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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larry.fisherman said:
I would want to but it would be irresponsible of me because I have two small children. I would be obligated to do whatever I had to to keep them safe.




Valid.


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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 5
    #26911348 - 09/01/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It would be far from a dream come true to me, and I wouldn't fight unless I had to in order to protect my wellbeing or my family's. War is hellish bullshit that is glamorized by people that don't have to fight it. Which is why I am so scared by the ridiculous amount of political division and the casual civil war jokes that get tossed around about the states right now(not on shroomery necessarily, just in general). No outside power has to actually invade us. We'll fucking willingly tear ourselves apart from the inside, and do the killing for them.


I would try an aid the fight in a nonviolent way as a civilian - I can't fight, I can't hit, I can't shoot. But I am coolheaded in a high adrenaline situations, I know basic first aid and I can cook, sew, have IT skills, so I would try and help out in the ways that I could, try and tend to the wounded. I would try really hard to avoid taking up arms though, and I'd probably be looking to flee. A whole chunk of my family tree was lost in concentration camps and war already. I'd listen to perhaps the greatest lesson of my great grandfather and try to gtfo and stay out of that nonsense.


If I couldn't and was trapped and forced to deal with it, then I'd fight. But first I'd try to remain a civilian while looking for a way out.


Edited by pirate-blues (09/01/20 08:05 AM)


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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26911362 - 09/01/20 08:01 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I would fight. Oddly I think it would give a lot of us meaning in life...


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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26911363 - 09/01/20 08:01 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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pirate-blues said:

War is hellish bullshit that is glamorized by people that don't have to fight it.





Almost everybody that wasnt messed up to begin with, will be after having gone through it.

We modern folk are very ill equipped to spend months in constant fear, watching people get blown to pieces and shooting others, and how that looks and knowing it could be you from a blind side you didnt anticipate at any time.

It fucks with us in ways that take a lifetime to unfuck, if ever.


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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Asante]
    #26911464 - 09/01/20 08:57 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Asante said:
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pirate-blues said:

War is hellish bullshit that is glamorized by people that don't have to fight it.





Almost everybody that wasnt messed up to begin with, will be after having gone through it.

We modern folk are very ill equipped to spend months in constant fear, watching people get blown to pieces and shooting others, and how that looks and knowing it could be you from a blind side you didnt anticipate at any time.

It fucks with us in ways that take a lifetime to unfuck, if ever.




I highly doubt it'll be England next time lol. We taught them a lesson. Americans are crazy :lol: ...


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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26911473 - 09/01/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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larry.fisherman said:
I would want to but it would be irresponsible of me because I have two small children. I would be obligated to do whatever I had to to keep them safe.





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childless men.  A man must weigh his
personal responsibilities against
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No I agree with you, just reminded me of the line from the Mel Gibson movie


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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Shenmue]
    #26911474 - 09/01/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Shenmue]
    #26911479 - 09/01/20 09:04 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

lol we both refrenced the patriot at the same time


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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: gopher]
    #26911487 - 09/01/20 09:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

gopher said:
Quote:

larry.fisherman said:
I would want to but it would be irresponsible of me because I have two small children. I would be obligated to do whatever I had to to keep them safe.





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Wars are not fought only by
childless men.  A man must weigh his
personal responsibilities against
his principles.

--The Patriot







No I agree with you, just reminded me of the line from the Mel Gibson movie



If they were a few years older I'd probably say yes because at that point they'd definitely remember me and my values well and not be so dependent. Probably maybe 10 years old each and I'd probably not be able to say no to China-Nazi WW3. Luckily, I'm hella at the vidya games. I can be elite drone pilot pew pew. WW3 is basically going to be an MLG event anyway, with robots and aliens. And Mel Gibson


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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Shenmue]
    #26911496 - 09/01/20 09:12 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I highly doubt it'll be England next time lol. We taught them a lesson. Americans are crazy :lol: ...





We can safely assume that it wont beb Britain and if it were, that your resistance fighters would be labelled terrorists. In the 1980s the British government even labelled those who fought against the Apartheid regime as terrorists.


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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: larry.fisherman] * 2
    #26911505 - 09/01/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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larry.fisherman said:
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gopher said:
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larry.fisherman said:
I would want to but it would be irresponsible of me because I have two small children. I would be obligated to do whatever I had to to keep them safe.





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Wars are not fought only by
childless men.  A man must weigh his
personal responsibilities against
his principles.

--The Patriot







No I agree with you, just reminded me of the line from the Mel Gibson movie



If they were a few years older I'd probably say yes because at that point they'd definitely remember me and my values well and not be so dependent. Probably maybe 10 years old each and I'd probably not be able to say no to China-Nazi WW3. Luckily, I'm hella at the vidya games. I can be elite drone pilot pew pew. WW3 is basically going to be an MLG event anyway, with robots and aliens. And Mel Gibson









Whelp, my shit is fucked then because I'm ass at first person shooters.


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so disorienting.


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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Asante]
    #26911516 - 09/01/20 09:25 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

This would totally depend on the intentions of the invading force, which would be almost impossible to decipher.  Is the invading force trying to topple our government, The Bully of the world?  Would it just be a land grab?  Would it be because "they hate us because of our freedom" (LOL)?  Would our government/media be truthful with what there intentions are?



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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Dilsnique]
    #26911570 - 09/01/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Most Americans have gun's so I highly doubt it'll ever happen here. Unless joe Biden wins of course.


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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Shenmue]
    #26911571 - 09/01/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Even a Japanese general during WW II said it would be entirely infeasible to invade the USA as there'd be a gun behind every window.


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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26911738 - 09/01/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hell naw, I would take my family and move overseas

I have plenty of marketable skills


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Re: Suppose your country got occupied by a foreign nation, would you join the armed resistance? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26911747 - 09/01/20 11:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

larry.fisherman said:
I would want to but it would be irresponsible of me because I have two small children. I would be obligated to do whatever I had to to keep them safe.



Wouldn't it be nice if a lot of other people (who are now dead) thought this way?


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