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Peaceful Protest 2
#26908666 - 08/30/20 07:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Can you imagine protests in the United States looking like this? One can dream.
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Re: Peaceful Protest [Re: Billy Ray] 1
#26908697 - 08/30/20 08:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You'll be ecstatic about thousands of COMPLETELY peaceful protesters marching to the capital steps in honor of the 57th anniversary of MLks I have a dream speech temperature checks,masks the whole nine.
Those are the victims families,descendants of MLK which were moving and Al Sharpton fame whoring as usual but overall it's a powerful peaceful protest. And it's 100% violence free
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What are they protesting?
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Yea, that 's nice to see.
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meltdowner said: What are they protesting?
It's mostly families of like george Floyd's and Jacob Blake but it was about calling for police reform and racial harmony. MLKs granddaughter said she didn't think her grandpa's dream had been fully realized and there's too much hate between races.
Truly answer that question you would have to ask them but that's what I got
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meltdowner said: What are they protesting?
It's mostly families of like george Floyd's and Jacob Blake but it was about calling for police reform and racial harmony. MLKs granddaughter said she didn't think her grandpa's dream had been fully realized and there's too much hate between races.
Truly answer that question you would have to ask them but that's what I got
Senator Tim Scott introduced a police reform bill to the Senate only for Dems to block it. https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/504926-tim-scott-stalled-police-reform-legislation-a-crying-shame
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#26909471 - 08/31/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Billy Ray said:
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meltdowner said: What are they protesting?
It's mostly families of like george Floyd's and Jacob Blake but it was about calling for police reform and racial harmony. MLKs granddaughter said she didn't think her grandpa's dream had been fully realized and there's too much hate between races.
Truly answer that question you would have to ask them but that's what I got
Senator Tim Scott introduced a police reform bill to the Senate only for Dems to block it. https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/504926-tim-scott-stalled-police-reform-legislation-a-crying-shame
That's not reform, that's complete BS.
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Re: Peaceful Protest [Re: qman]
#26909620 - 08/31/20 12:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why?
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Re: Peaceful Protest [Re: qman]
#26909622 - 08/31/20 12:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't think we are going to see much fundamental police reform. The Republicans are against it period and the Democrats are playing their usual games pretending to be for the common people, but the people are divided so it's unclear to them who to cater to win the election, and that's all they're trying to do.
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#26909889 - 08/31/20 02:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Billy Ray said: Why?
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/504646-police-reforms-pass-house-headed-to-dead-end-in-gridlocked-senate
"not with federal bans or mandates, but with new studies and financial incentives for state and local police departments to adopt reforms on their own."
Are you fucking kidding me? Instead of changing the shitty laws and corrupt criminal justice system, he wants the police to reform themselves!!!
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Re: Peaceful Protest [Re: qman]
#26910016 - 08/31/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here's what was in the Republican bill:
Chokeholds discouraged, disincentivized
The bill would discourage chokeholds by withholding federal grants from departments that allow for such deadly restraint. President Trump released an executive order Tuesday that would ban chokeholds except in life-threatening situations.
Increased data collection on use of force
The bill states that currently only 40 percent of law enforcement officers contribute to the FBI National Use of Force Data Collection, and there is no official system for tracking police shootings. Under the Justice Act state and local governments would be required to report to the FBI any use of force by a law enforcement officer that causes injury and any discharge of a firearm.
Increased records retention
The bill would require law enforcement agencies to maintain employment and disciplinary records of law enforcement officers for 30 years and to review records as a part of the hiring process.
“No-knock” warrant tracking
The bill would establish the “Breonna Taylor Notification Act” to track no-knock warrants to analyze their intent and their effectiveness. Such warrants used to be rare, but Taylor, 26, was killed after police in Kentucky used a no-knock warrant to enter her Louisville home.
Enhanced funding for body cameras
Through a federal grant program, the DOJ would match investments into body cameras worn by police officers, authorizing $100 million each year between 2021 and 2025. The program would impose financial penalties if officers do not use the cameras properly.
Funding for training on alternative uses of force, de-escalation and duty to intervene
The bill would create a standardized curriculum to train in alternative uses of force and responding to behavioral health crises and publicly list law enforcement agencies that mandate this training. It would also establish and provide funding for a program to train officers to know when to intervene if they see their colleagues abusing their use of force.
Study on the social status of black men and boys
The bill would commission a study long sought by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi that would go beyond police brutality, looking at education, health care, financial status and crime.
African American history museum to train law enforcement on the history of racism
The bill would fund an education program for the Smithsonian’s National Museum of African American History and Culture to create a law enforcement training program on the history of racism in the U.S.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/justice-act-whats-in-the-senate-republican-police-reform-bill
You don't think any of that is worthwhile?
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Re: Peaceful Protest [Re: Billy Ray]
#26910378 - 08/31/20 06:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's just scratching the surface and it doesn't address the core issues at play with law enforcement and US citizens. We pay for the public employees and we get to dictate to them what reform is needed and what's acceptable for not. What purpose does it serve to put out some half assed proposal that isn't going to change anything? We're going end right back to where we started, a very frustrated US public with our law enforcement officials.
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Re: Peaceful Protest [Re: qman]
#26910385 - 08/31/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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What are the core issues at play with law enforcement and US citizens?
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Re: Peaceful Protest [Re: Billy Ray]
#26910526 - 08/31/20 07:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The short and simple of it is that US citizens don't like being told what to do and when citizens don't do as they're told law enforcement are compelled to shoot them.
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Re: Peaceful Protest [Re: qman]
#26910539 - 08/31/20 07:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Exactly, just like the cold war era of thinking that still permeates our government. There needs to be a fundamental shift what law enforcement is. If its the cartoonish cops and robbers paradigm, nothing gonna happen.
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Re: Peaceful Protest [Re: Billy Ray]
#26910553 - 08/31/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Billy Ray said: What are the core issues at play with law enforcement and US citizens?
1. Unjust drug laws. 2. Harassment of innocent citizens based on drug laws 3. Illegal searches based on drug laws 4. Illegal detentions 5. Illegal ID requirements 6. False arrests 7. Arrest and contact quotas 8. Harassment of drivers and passengers for many times no reason. 9. Unconstitutional asset forfeiture. 10, Destruction of body cam evidence showing illegal police actions. 11. For profit prisons. 12. Pushing dirty cops from one department to another. 13. Qualified immunity needs to go. 14. Every cop needs body cam, no exceptions. 15. Transparency for uncover policing.
Really, this is just the tip of the iceberg. The corruption runs deep and it needs to be addressed. Every facet of US policing needs to be addressed, same with arrest tactics, prison sentences, probation and the list goes on and on.
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Re: Peaceful Protest [Re: qman]
#26910571 - 08/31/20 07:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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16. Police should be equipped with silly string.
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Re: Peaceful Protest [Re: qman]
#26910573 - 08/31/20 07:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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14. If bodycam is not operational, you cannot police.
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Re: Peaceful Protest [Re: qman]
#26910577 - 08/31/20 07:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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They have to start somewhere. The fact that democrats didn’t even negotiate the details of the bill suggests they don’t care about police reform. Tim Scott’s bill would have addressed some of those points.
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Re: Peaceful Protest [Re: qman]
#26910587 - 08/31/20 07:30 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Billy Ray said: What are the core issues at play with law enforcement and US citizens?
1. Unjust drug laws. 2. Harassment of innocent citizens based on drug laws 3. Illegal searches based on drug laws 4. Illegal detentions 5. Illegal ID requirements 6. False arrests 7. Arrest and contact quotas 8. Harassment of drivers and passengers for many times no reason. 9. Unconstitutional asset forfeiture. 10, Destruction of body cam evidence showing illegal police actions. 11. For profit prisons. 12. Pushing dirty cops from one department to another. 13. Qualified immunity needs to go. 14. Every cop needs body cam, no exceptions. 15. Transparency for uncover policing.
Really, this is just the tip of the iceberg. The corruption runs deep and it needs to be addressed. Every facet of US policing needs to be addressed, same with arrest tactics, prison sentences, probation and the list goes on and on.
I can really get behind this list,real change needs to happen. Tits for tat murders tkk shut each other up is going to destroy us and it won't work. Instituting things like on this list will give us a starting point. I also think because marines have to train for 6 months on how not to commit war crimes and diffuse situations before it happens in extremely high stress situations. They have to pass extensive psychological stress. If we took that approach with the police there'd be less officers that get scared and can't handle a split second life decision.
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