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teamasterdrinker
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BRF Cakes Looking A Little Soggy
#26910376 - 08/31/20 06:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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My last batch of BRF cakes had a bit of soggy mush at the bottom of the jars during colonization. The mycelium never fully colonated these portions before pinning in the jars started happening.
Does this look like too much water in the original mixture? I roughly did 2:1:1 - Verm:BRF:Water and checked field capacity.
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What kind of jar/lid tek did you use? Also, did you cover the jars with foil before you pc'd them?
I'm a total noob on my first grow atm, just trying to help you identify the moisture issue.
You can get a 12 pack of 8oz jars for 8 dollars at walmart.
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teamasterdrinker said: My last batch of BRF cakes had a bit of soggy mush at the bottom of the jars during colonization. The mycelium never fully colonated these portions before pinning in the jars started happening.
Does this look like too much water in the original mixture? I roughly did 2:1:1 - Verm:BRF:Water and checked field capacity.

No need to sweat it dude little did you know cave Jesus (savior) has your back  Since you birthed the cakes we'll refer to them as 'fully colonized' now.
I'd like you to inspect one of them by slicing the cake 7n half 3xposing the centre to see how it looks. If I think it looks good (I'm fairly sure so far) then you will have mushrooms from this grow so don't worry friend. But I'll need a pic of the cake centre and we can proceed from there
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Re: BRF Cakes Looking A Little Soggy [Re: ufc]
#26910697 - 08/31/20 08:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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ufc said: What kind of jar/lid tek did you use? Also, did you cover the jars with foil before you pc'd them?
I'm a total noob on my first grow atm, just trying to help you identify the moisture issue.
You can get a 12 pack of 8oz jars for 8 dollars at walmart.
These are just some regular drinking cups that I've been using, but I've purchased some more jars I'll be using on the next grow.
I used tin foil for a lid during sterilizing then I just poked a hole through the tin foil when I inoculated with a syringe.
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Did you get a chance to inspect the centre of the substrates to see how far myc was able to colonize the cake? This is the important part to decide how to fruit them.
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Re: BRF Cakes Looking A Little Soggy [Re: Mateja]
#26910729 - 08/31/20 08:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I took these photos a few days ago. I have already dunked and rolled these bad boys and they are starting to fruit quite nicely.
I was mainly looking to get opinions on why these cakes look this soggy and if it I need to adjust the mixtures at the beginning.
Do you think I should still cut one in half if they are starting to fruit? Would the cake be ruined?
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Well can we see some pics of how they're fruiting now I'm curious  And BTW what you call soggy is in fact uncolonized parts of the substrate and those parts should be scooped out or your cakes will soon contaminate as mold spores will be able to germinate on the uncolonized parts. That's why I asked you to slice one of them up to see how much of the cakes you'd be able to save. But since you say they're fruiting nicely I'm immensely curious to see how that turned out
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Re: BRF Cakes Looking A Little Soggy [Re: Mateja]
#26910881 - 08/31/20 09:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It seems like the myc isn't colonizing those parts because it's too soggy. They were incubating for just over 4 weeks and pins started popping up so I birthed them. This is only my 3rd grow but I don't remember my first two attempts having this soggy feature to them.
Here's a few photos. I already harvested the first cake (bottom left, tin foil is still there) and its soaking now. The fruits are drying in the dehyrdator now and the rest of the cakes are still on their first flush.
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Good job keep it up 
Because you didn't use Mason jars with proper lids most likely steam has entered and soaked parts of of the BRF mix and that's why it's a bit soggy and myc is 6nable to colonize those parts. I usually just scrape those parts off under fast flowing tap water just rinse everything off that isn't colonized and don't be afraid to dig in with the spoon/fingers you won't hurt healthy myc in any way, but leaving uncolonized BRF mix standing will eventually become bacterial.
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Re: BRF Cakes Looking A Little Soggy [Re: Mateja]
#26911777 - 09/01/20 12:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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too wet all the way, from the jars to the chamber
use less water
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No not really, of course it's not optimal neither the substrates nor the FC conditions but there isn't very room for improvements at this point so its probably best to just keep going and doing what's been done so far. But yes technically your kind of correct tho
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Re: BRF Cakes Looking A Little Soggy [Re: Mateja]
#26912614 - 09/01/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mateah said: Good job keep it up 
Because you didn't use Mason jars with proper lids most likely steam has entered and soaked parts of of the BRF mix and that's why it's a bit soggy and myc is 6nable to colonize those parts. I usually just scrape those parts off under fast flowing tap water just rinse everything off that isn't colonized and don't be afraid to dig in with the spoon/fingers you won't hurt healthy myc in any way, but leaving uncolonized BRF mix standing will eventually become bacterial.
Alright, I'll be using the proper jars next time so that should help out, I'll also dial back the water ratio slightly in the substrate mixing and try to not get this mush next time
I think some of that mush washed off when I was rinsing them but next time I'll for sure scoop it out with a spoon, i just wasn't sure if that would hurt the cake at the time.
I checked out the water tub Tek in your signature. Do you get better yields doing that than the perlite method?
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teamasterdrinker said: Do you get better yields doing that than the perlite method?
Its not so much about yields its about mimicking their natural environment and keeping it as maintenence free as possible. The SGFC needs up to 6 mistings a day the HC you can fruits several flushes without misting once. It speaks for itself imo, yields will be somewhat proportional to your knowledge/experience so in the meantime just for us on growing mushrooms and your yield will steadily improve
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Re: BRF Cakes Looking A Little Soggy [Re: Mateja]
#26914643 - 09/02/20 09:49 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well that just sounds all around way better. Not buying perlite and not having to mist as much. I'm definitely going to try that out.
Those are some unreal looking flushes in your signature by the way. Good Job! I hope to achieve that one day...
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