Home | Community | Message Board

MRCA Tyroler Gluckspilze
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Mushroom-Hut Liquid Cultures   North Spore Bulk Substrate

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Offlineteamasterdrinker
Newbie
Male
Registered: 08/02/20
Posts: 17
Last seen: 3 years, 4 months
BRF Cakes Looking A Little Soggy
    #26910376 - 08/31/20 06:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

My last batch of BRF cakes had a bit of soggy mush at the bottom of the jars during colonization.  The mycelium never fully colonated these portions before pinning in the jars started happening.

Does this look like too much water in the original mixture?  I roughly did 2:1:1 - Verm:BRF:Water and checked field capacity.



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineufc
Stranger
Registered: 07/24/20
Posts: 26
Last seen: 2 years, 8 months
Re: BRF Cakes Looking A Little Soggy [Re: teamasterdrinker]
    #26910481 - 08/31/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

What kind of jar/lid tek did you use? Also, did you cover the jars with foil before you pc'd them?

I'm a total noob on my first grow atm, just trying to help you identify the moisture issue.

You can get a 12 pack of 8oz jars for 8 dollars at walmart.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleMateja
 Unread Journal User Gallery

Registered: 07/14/16
Posts: 7,948
Loc: Here
Re: BRF Cakes Looking A Little Soggy [Re: teamasterdrinker]
    #26910537 - 08/31/20 07:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

teamasterdrinker said:
My last batch of BRF cakes had a bit of soggy mush at the bottom of the jars during colonization.  The mycelium never fully colonated these portions before pinning in the jars started happening.

Does this look like too much water in the original mixture?  I roughly did 2:1:1 - Verm:BRF:Water and checked field capacity.





No need to sweat it dude little did you know cave Jesus (savior) has your back :thumbup:
Since you birthed the cakes we'll refer to them as 'fully colonized' now.


I'd like you to inspect one of them by slicing the cake 7n half 3xposing the centre to see how it looks. If I think it looks good (I'm fairly sure so far) then you will have mushrooms from this grow so don't worry friend. But I'll need a pic of the cake centre and we can proceed from there :typing:


--------------------
Cakes inside Water Tub


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineteamasterdrinker
Newbie
Male
Registered: 08/02/20
Posts: 17
Last seen: 3 years, 4 months
Re: BRF Cakes Looking A Little Soggy [Re: ufc]
    #26910697 - 08/31/20 08:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

ufc said:
What kind of jar/lid tek did you use? Also, did you cover the jars with foil before you pc'd them?

I'm a total noob on my first grow atm, just trying to help you identify the moisture issue.

You can get a 12 pack of 8oz jars for 8 dollars at walmart.




These are just some regular drinking cups that I've been using, but I've purchased some more jars I'll be using on the next grow.

I used tin foil for a lid during sterilizing then I just poked a hole through the tin foil when I inoculated with a syringe.


Edited by teamasterdrinker (08/31/20 08:10 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleMateja
 Unread Journal User Gallery

Registered: 07/14/16
Posts: 7,948
Loc: Here
Re: BRF Cakes Looking A Little Soggy [Re: teamasterdrinker]
    #26910723 - 08/31/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Did you get a chance to inspect the centre of the substrates to see how far myc was able to colonize the cake? This is the important part to decide how to fruit them.


--------------------
Cakes inside Water Tub


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineteamasterdrinker
Newbie
Male
Registered: 08/02/20
Posts: 17
Last seen: 3 years, 4 months
Re: BRF Cakes Looking A Little Soggy [Re: Mateja]
    #26910729 - 08/31/20 08:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I took these photos a few days ago.  I have already dunked and rolled these bad boys and they are starting to fruit quite nicely.

I was mainly looking to get opinions on why these cakes look this soggy and if it I need to adjust the mixtures at the beginning.

Do you think I should still cut one in half if they are starting to fruit?  Would the cake be ruined?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleMateja
 Unread Journal User Gallery

Registered: 07/14/16
Posts: 7,948
Loc: Here
Re: BRF Cakes Looking A Little Soggy [Re: teamasterdrinker]
    #26910806 - 08/31/20 09:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Well can we see some pics of how they're fruiting now I'm curious :begger: :lol:
And BTW what you call soggy is in fact uncolonized parts of the substrate and those parts should be scooped out or your cakes will soon contaminate as mold spores will be able to germinate on the uncolonized parts. That's why I asked you to slice one of them up to see how much of the cakes you'd be able to save. But since you say they're fruiting nicely I'm immensely curious to see how that turned out :popcorn:


--------------------
Cakes inside Water Tub


Edited by Mateja (08/31/20 09:15 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineteamasterdrinker
Newbie
Male
Registered: 08/02/20
Posts: 17
Last seen: 3 years, 4 months
Re: BRF Cakes Looking A Little Soggy [Re: Mateja]
    #26910881 - 08/31/20 09:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It seems like the myc isn't colonizing those parts because it's too soggy.  They were incubating for just over 4 weeks and pins started popping up so I birthed them.  This is only my 3rd grow but I don't remember my first two attempts having this soggy feature to them.

Here's a few photos.  I already harvested the first cake (bottom left, tin foil is still there) and its soaking now. The fruits are drying in the dehyrdator now and the rest of the cakes are still on their first flush.



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleMateja
 Unread Journal User Gallery

Registered: 07/14/16
Posts: 7,948
Loc: Here
Re: BRF Cakes Looking A Little Soggy [Re: teamasterdrinker]
    #26911757 - 09/01/20 11:51 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Good job keep it up :thumbup:

Because you didn't use Mason jars with proper lids most likely steam has entered and soaked parts of of the BRF mix and that's why it's a bit soggy and myc is 6nable to colonize those parts. I usually just scrape those parts off under fast flowing tap water just rinse everything off that isn't colonized and don't be afraid to dig in with the spoon/fingers you won't hurt healthy myc in any way, but leaving uncolonized BRF mix standing will eventually become bacterial.


--------------------
Cakes inside Water Tub


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinesmalltalk_canceled
Babnik
 User Gallery

Registered: 07/13/20
Posts: 2,862
Last seen: 12 days, 8 hours
Re: BRF Cakes Looking A Little Soggy [Re: Mateja]
    #26911777 - 09/01/20 12:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

too wet all the way, from the jars to the chamber

use less water


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleMateja
 Unread Journal User Gallery

Registered: 07/14/16
Posts: 7,948
Loc: Here
Re: BRF Cakes Looking A Little Soggy [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #26911801 - 09/01/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

No not really, of course it's not optimal neither the substrates nor the FC conditions but there isn't very room for improvements at this point so its probably best to just keep going and doing what's been done so far. But yes technically your kind of correct tho :eatingout:


--------------------
Cakes inside Water Tub


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineteamasterdrinker
Newbie
Male
Registered: 08/02/20
Posts: 17
Last seen: 3 years, 4 months
Re: BRF Cakes Looking A Little Soggy [Re: Mateja]
    #26912614 - 09/01/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Mateah said:
Good job keep it up :thumbup:

Because you didn't use Mason jars with proper lids most likely steam has entered and soaked parts of of the BRF mix and that's why it's a bit soggy and myc is 6nable to colonize those parts. I usually just scrape those parts off under fast flowing tap water just rinse everything off that isn't colonized and don't be afraid to dig in with the spoon/fingers you won't hurt healthy myc in any way, but leaving uncolonized BRF mix standing will eventually become bacterial.




Alright, I'll be using the proper jars next time so that should help out, I'll also dial back the water ratio slightly in the substrate mixing and try to not get this mush next time  :takingnotes:

I think some of that mush washed off when I was rinsing them but next time I'll for sure scoop it out with a spoon, i just wasn't sure if that would hurt the cake at the time.

I checked out the water tub Tek in your signature.  Do you get better yields doing that than the perlite method?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleMateja
 Unread Journal User Gallery

Registered: 07/14/16
Posts: 7,948
Loc: Here
Re: BRF Cakes Looking A Little Soggy [Re: teamasterdrinker]
    #26913521 - 09/02/20 10:42 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

teamasterdrinker said:
Do you get better yields doing that than the perlite method?



Its not so much about yields its about mimicking their natural environment and keeping it as maintenence free as possible. The SGFC needs up to 6 mistings a day the HC you can fruits several flushes without misting once. It speaks for itself imo, yields will be somewhat proportional to your knowledge/experience so in the meantime just for us on growing mushrooms and your yield will steadily improve :thumbup:


--------------------
Cakes inside Water Tub


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineteamasterdrinker
Newbie
Male
Registered: 08/02/20
Posts: 17
Last seen: 3 years, 4 months
Re: BRF Cakes Looking A Little Soggy [Re: Mateja]
    #26914643 - 09/02/20 09:49 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Well that just sounds all around way better.  Not buying perlite and not having to mist as much. I'm definitely going to try that out.

Those are some unreal looking flushes in your signature by the way.  Good Job!  I hope to achieve that one day...:shocked:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Mushroom-Hut Liquid Cultures   North Spore Bulk Substrate


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* 2 BRF cakes first flush 142 grams. WooHoo! Mr Wobblehead 10,118 12 09/05/18 07:25 PM
by gbu
* BRF cakes spawn newuser1492 4,047 4 07/06/03 02:47 PM
by newuser1492
* Casing BRF cakes (pics)
( 1 2 all )
primal_future 23,000 24 09/08/22 06:56 AM
by Screwup
* who's had good potency with brf cakes?
( 1 2 3 4 all )
shroomizzy 21,473 76 01/09/03 07:19 PM
by socratesmind
* I cased two BRF cakes yesterday. I had to patch case.. wicish1 2,437 10 08/05/03 02:18 PM
by Ekstaza
* Spawning sheep poop w/ brf cakes indicaz 4,340 9 10/04/09 09:18 PM
by bike__52
* innoculating with old brf cakes flow 2,691 6 01/13/03 10:55 AM
by Anno
* Very small casing with one 1/2 pint BRF cake. Useless? fIsh in my head 2,613 8 06/21/03 05:52 PM
by ATWAR

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
499 topic views. 21 members, 160 guests and 46 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.029 seconds spending 0.009 seconds on 14 queries.