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Defying Wisconsin governor, Trump says he will still visit Kenosha * 1
    #26909444 - 08/31/20 10:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah.  Can only see good things coming from this and bringing the country together. :inlove: :finger:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/defying-wisconsin-governor-trump-says-he-will-still-visit-kenosha/ar-BB18y89s?ocid=msedgntp


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Re: Defying Wisconsin governor, Trump says he will still visit Kenosha [Re: Barnaby] * 2
    #26909461 - 08/31/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Trump will win votes by going there.  Where’s Biden?


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Re: Defying Wisconsin governor, Trump says he will still visit Kenosha [Re: Billy Ray] * 3
    #26909470 - 08/31/20 10:50 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Wisconsin goes blue like 75% of the time. Trump won it last time, but after this shit storm, things aren't looking good. Trump only won Wisconsin by .7% over Shillary. Ouch. Biden would probably hurt his chances by showing up, which is exactly what Trump will do.


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Re: Defying Wisconsin governor, Trump says he will still visit Kenosha [Re: christopera]
    #26909476 - 08/31/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/wi/wisconsin_trump_vs_biden-6849.html

Biden + 3.5  It really doesn't even matter, Biden has almost every swing state.


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Re: Defying Wisconsin governor, Trump says he will still visit Kenosha [Re: qman] * 1
    #26909746 - 08/31/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I don't see how it could win him votes. He's already shown he's incapable of stopping the violence. If he attracts another mob there and they destroy the city even more he'll have a hell of time blaming Biden for it.


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Re: Defying Wisconsin governor, Trump says he will still visit Kenosha [Re: Kizzle] * 3
    #26909757 - 08/31/20 01:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't see how it could win him votes. He's already shown he's incapable of stopping the violence. If he attracts another mob there and they destroy the city even more he'll have a hell of time blaming Biden for it.



No.  He's constantly offering to help these states but their leaders don't take him up on it.  They'd rather have their cities burn then get help from Trump.


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Re: Defying Wisconsin governor, Trump says he will still visit Kenosha [Re: Billy Ray] * 1
    #26909860 - 08/31/20 02:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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No.  He's constantly offering to help these states but their leaders don't take him up on it.  They'd rather have their cities burn then get help from Trump.




Exactly. And when they turn down his help the liberals have the nerve to blame Trump for the continued violence and destruction.
The mental gymnastics these liberal fucktards are capable of is honestly quite impressive.


Edited by Complexicated (08/31/20 02:08 PM)


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Re: Defying Wisconsin governor, Trump says he will still visit Kenosha [Re: Billy Ray] * 1
    #26909877 - 08/31/20 02:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Billy Ray said:
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Kizzle said:
I don't see how it could win him votes. He's already shown he's incapable of stopping the violence. If he attracts another mob there and they destroy the city even more he'll have a hell of time blaming Biden for it.



No.  He's constantly offering to help these states but their leaders don't take him up on it.  They'd rather have their cities burn then get help from Trump.




What help exactly?  Federal agents to violate citizens rights on video for the whole world to witness?  There's nothing that can be done today other than what they're doing. Law enforcement can't do what they did in the past, it's a new world today.


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Re: Defying Wisconsin governor, Trump says he will still visit Kenosha [Re: Complexicated]
    #26909879 - 08/31/20 02:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Which cities turned down Trump's help and then blamed him for the violence? Let's see 5 good examples, sources included. There's like 19,000 cities in the US, so it should be easy.


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Re: Defying Wisconsin governor, Trump says he will still visit Kenosha [Re: qman]
    #26909884 - 08/31/20 02:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Billy Ray said:
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Kizzle said:
I don't see how it could win him votes. He's already shown he's incapable of stopping the violence. If he attracts another mob there and they destroy the city even more he'll have a hell of time blaming Biden for it.



No.  He's constantly offering to help these states but their leaders don't take him up on it.  They'd rather have their cities burn then get help from Trump.




What help exactly?  Federal agents to violate citizens rights on video for the whole world to witness?  There's nothing that can be done today other than what they're doing. Law enforcement can't do what they did in the past, it's a new world today.




Yes, cities turned down Trump's fascism, because most cities don't see that as help. It's almost like, by governing themselves they are trying to do what's best for themselves.


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Re: Defying Wisconsin governor, Trump says he will still visit Kenosha [Re: christopera]
    #26909891 - 08/31/20 02:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Ironically, the Republicans always ran on the platform of letting states do what they want. Not that Democrats were against that, with only a few key issues being the exception, mainly that of health care where state level plans have been disasters for decades.


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Re: Defying Wisconsin governor, Trump says he will still visit Kenosha [Re: christopera]
    #26909898 - 08/31/20 02:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't see how it could win him votes. He's already shown he's incapable of stopping the violence. If he attracts another mob there and they destroy the city even more he'll have a hell of time blaming Biden for it.



No.  He's constantly offering to help these states but their leaders don't take him up on it.  They'd rather have their cities burn then get help from Trump.




What help exactly?  Federal agents to violate citizens rights on video for the whole world to witness?  There's nothing that can be done today other than what they're doing. Law enforcement can't do what they did in the past, it's a new world today.




Yes, cities turned down Trump's fascism, because most cities don't see that as help. It's almost like, by governing themselves they are trying to do what's best for themselves.




If they violate the rights and brutalize thousands of innocent people on video, it will make this movement 100 times more powerful. People that never intended to protest will hit the streets and it will make things even worse.

Hell, even some Trump supporters that respect the Constitution might get off their asses and join the protests as well.


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Re: Defying Wisconsin governor, Trump says he will still visit Kenosha [Re: qman]
    #26909918 - 08/31/20 02:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Which cities turned down Trump's help and then blamed him for the violence? Let's see 5 good examples, sources included. There's like 19,000 cities in the US, so it should be easy.




I never said the cities who turned down his help were the ones who made the comments.


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Re: Defying Wisconsin governor, Trump says he will still visit Kenosha [Re: Complexicated]
    #26909922 - 08/31/20 02:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Which cities turned down Trump's help and then blamed him for the violence? Let's see 5 good examples, sources included. There's like 19,000 cities in the US, so it should be easy.




I never said the cities who turned down his help were the ones who made the comments.




States then? Who made the comments?


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Re: Defying Wisconsin governor, Trump says he will still visit Kenosha [Re: christopera]
    #26909947 - 08/31/20 02:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Which cities turned down Trump's help and then blamed him for the violence? Let's see 5 good examples, sources included. There's like 19,000 cities in the US, so it should be easy.




I never said the cities who turned down his help were the ones who made the comments.




States then? Who made the comments?




Joe Biden for one

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2020/08/31/biden-blames-trump-for-violence-in-us-cities-as-he-steps-up-campaign-travel/


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Re: Defying Wisconsin governor, Trump says he will still visit Kenosha [Re: christopera] * 1
    #26909952 - 08/31/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Which cities turned down Trump's help and then blamed him for the violence? Let's see 5 good examples, sources included. There's like 19,000 cities in the US, so it should be easy.



Portland mayor blames Trump for unrest

Portland has been on fire for about 90 straight days.  Clearly Mayor Ted Wheeler has lost control of his city.  A Patriot Prayer member was shot and killed, and Mayor Ted Wheeler said he will not allow Patriot Prayer and white supremacists to bring more bloodshed to his city 
Is this guy joking?  A Patriot Prayer member was murdered and he's blaming that group for the bloodshed.


Meanwhile, Biden blames the violence in democrat-run cities on Trump.  Joe isn't holding anyone accountable except the President, who can't do very much because these cities don't want his help.


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Re: Defying Wisconsin governor, Trump says he will still visit Kenosha [Re: Billy Ray]
    #26909971 - 08/31/20 02:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It's also wrong to blame Trump for the social unrest. The oppressive police tactics, unjust laws and corrupt criminal justice system was here decades before he entered the scene.

The deteriorating middle class has also been decades in the making. Could we blame Trump for not reversing this trend?  Yes, but that's really a long shot at this point.


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Re: Defying Wisconsin governor, Trump says he will still visit Kenosha [Re: Billy Ray]
    #26909972 - 08/31/20 02:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Which cities turned down Trump's help and then blamed him for the violence? Let's see 5 good examples, sources included. There's like 19,000 cities in the US, so it should be easy.



Portland mayor blames Trump for unrest

Portland has been on fire for about 90 straight days.  Clearly Mayor Ted Wheeler has lost control of his city.  A Patriot Prayer member was shot and killed, and Mayor Ted Wheeler said he will not allow Patriot Prayer and white supremacists to bring more bloodshed to his city 
Is this guy joking?  A Patriot Prayer member was murdered and he's blaming that group for the bloodshed.


Meanwhile, Biden blames the violence in democrat-run cities on Trump.  Joe isn't holding anyone accountable except the President, who can't do very much because these cities don't want his help.




I'll give you 1:19,000, 4 more to go, though Portland is a bit debatable as Trump forced federal agents on the city and things got a lot worse. So... Wheeler probably should be telling the Feds to stay out.

Also, Biden isn't an elected official. I don't know how many times I have say that.


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Re: Defying Wisconsin governor, Trump says he will still visit Kenosha [Re: christopera]
    #26909991 - 08/31/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I don't need to give you anymore examples.  You pretended that it doesn't happen.  Portland is proof that it happened.


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Re: Defying Wisconsin governor, Trump says he will still visit Kenosha [Re: Billy Ray]
    #26909997 - 08/31/20 03:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It must be a serious problem if it’s 1:19,000.


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