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30 days in - what's going on with my tubs? :(
    #26909962 - 08/31/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

30 days in - unmodified tek - the tubs seem to have stalled out.  i cracked the lids to get better pics but one tub looks to have bugs, the other one has water pooling on the surface, and the other is just not moving like the other 2. what happened?







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Re: 30 days in - what's going on with my tubs? :( [Re: 714psilly]
    #26910014 - 08/31/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Was your spawn fully colonized? And what ratio spawn to substrate did you use?


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Re: 30 days in - what's going on with my tubs? :( [Re: Cegda]
    #26910084 - 08/31/20 04:06 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yes. I used 2:1 substrate to spawn


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Re: 30 days in - what's going on with my tubs? :( [Re: 714psilly]
    #26910087 - 08/31/20 04:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Has it been getting any air exchange or do you have it completely shut?


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Re: 30 days in - what's going on with my tubs? :( [Re: Shenmue]
    #26910090 - 08/31/20 04:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

next time I would give shoeboxes a try..


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Re: 30 days in - what's going on with my tubs? :( [Re: Shenmue]
    #26910204 - 08/31/20 04:56 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Looks ok to me tbh.
30 days is long AF tho.
Was it colonizing in a cold room?
What where are your FAE holes for this, monotub?

I say give it full FAE.  At this point it will handle it.  You can give them FAE right after spawning and they fruit on their own as they feel best.

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Re: 30 days in - what's going on with my tubs? :( [Re: Shenmue]
    #26910210 - 08/31/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah that’s gotta be an air exchange and conditions issue. You can see the thick myc veins that form during fruiting in some of those pics but no knots.

The first ones look really dry too. I’d give it a light mist til there’ smaller water beads all over and increase airflow a little bit. How have they been fruiting so far? Looks like unmodded tub.


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Re: 30 days in - what's going on with my tubs? :( [Re: Shenmue]
    #26911538 - 09/01/20 09:37 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

it's unmodified tub tek. so it gets FAE immediately


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Re: 30 days in - what's going on with my tubs? :( [Re: Shenmue]
    #26911544 - 09/01/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

its unmodified tek. gets FAE right away


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Re: 30 days in - what's going on with my tubs? :( [Re: A.k.a]
    #26911554 - 09/01/20 09:46 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

its unmodified....they haven't been fruiting.


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Re: 30 days in - what's going on with my tubs? :( [Re: Jabensis]
    #26911556 - 09/01/20 09:50 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Looks ok? does it sometimes take longer than 30 days to see pins? 

it was not colonizing in a cold room. 75 usually but we had a couple hot weeks during the cycle so up to 80 for a couple weeeks.

it's unmodified tek, no holes.

what is full fae? this cant mean taking the tops fully off? with unmodifed tek, they get FAE right away


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Re: 30 days in - what's going on with my tubs? :( [Re: 714psilly]
    #26911688 - 09/01/20 11:15 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Are you fanning it or just relying on the small holes made by the handles for FAE?


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Re: 30 days in - what's going on with my tubs? :( [Re: ArthurFungarelli]
    #26911901 - 09/01/20 12:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

No 30 days most of the time you’d be on the third flush.

Does your lid have a rubber gasket that makes it air tight?


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Re: 30 days in - what's going on with my tubs? :( [Re: ArthurFungarelli]
    #26913718 - 09/02/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

just relying on the holes


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Re: 30 days in - what's going on with my tubs? :( [Re: 714psilly]
    #26913724 - 09/02/20 12:49 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

My understanding is that those are basically just there for gas exchange, but you've still got to fan. 

I'm not going to pretend to know all the science behind it, but I do know that CO2 is more dense than the surrounding air, so if that's being generated, it's probably building up in the bottom of the tub, which is why monotubs typically have a hole near the substrate level.


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Re: 30 days in - what's going on with my tubs? :( [Re: ArthurFungarelli]
    #26913727 - 09/02/20 12:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Nothing is fanned anymore luckily. Monos get air through holes and unmodded from the lid gaps or flipped lid.


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Re: 30 days in - what's going on with my tubs? :( [Re: A.k.a]
    #26913747 - 09/02/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I fanned my unmodded monos, and they turned out great with very little misting (not to say it was necessary).  I'll try and keep my grubby mitts off one of the next batch long enough to see if not touching it makes a difference.  I was under the impression that CO2 would just accumulate in the bottom of the tub if there weren't any fanning.  Any idea what makes that not the case?  Just ambient air movement?


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Re: 30 days in - what's going on with my tubs? :( [Re: ArthurFungarelli]
    #26913821 - 09/02/20 02:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I haven't tried any monos since shoeboxes are so easy to stack in a small area, but I just spawn,  put the lid on,  and dubtub once the fruits need the space to keep growing.. I don't mist, fan, or really even mess with them except to check the growth every day or two


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