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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#26909684 - 08/31/20 12:42 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MagicMush123]
#26909703 - 08/31/20 12:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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MagicMush123 said: Its not: government of the people, by the people and for the people?
When lib. left says "the people shall own the means of production and government" it means literally every citizen of that nation. Not the choice few we let run the nation for generations at a time.
Not individual corporations hell bent on wealth at any cost.
Every. Single. Person.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MagicMush123]
#26909713 - 08/31/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Apparently Kyle was already working as a lifeguard that day in Wisconsin, and the rifle was not brought across state lines (thought borders were a myth anyway) either.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MagicMush123] 1
#26909720 - 08/31/20 12:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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MagicMush123 said: Thats literally happening on both sides tho. The protesters and rioters are usually travelling from out of state to participate in whatever they're doing
How do you know this? I know the police in Minneapolis initially said this, but arrest records proved the claim false. Conversely, the Trump caravan explicitly gathered outside Portland in Clackamas county before driving to the city, followed by a portion leaving the official parade route and driving to the protest downtown in vehicles decked out like this:

Earlier in this thread I linked to a database detailing hundreds of similar encounters. Can you provide comparable examples of outside agitators behind these riots?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: shivas.wisdom] 2
#26909728 - 08/31/20 01:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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There's been enough examples of Antifa members arrested for violence in states other than where they live. I don't know about "usually" or how often they do it, but it's already proven.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods] 2
#26909749 - 08/31/20 01:12 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Fringe right wingers consider themselves the new counter culture.
Crazy how anybody can think such a thing when they have such a propensity for authoritarianism and continually make excuses for police injustice.
Interesting phenomenon for sure
How does the Right have a propensity of authoritarianism?
You're joking right?
Siding with a president who wants to send federal agents to interfere with states issues. Authoritarian.
Making excuses for cops who kill with 0 repercussion amd act as judge jury executioner when the constitution clearly states that that is a violation of our rights. Authoritarian.
Literally making excuses for a man in position of authority kneeling on the neck of another til he died. Cant really think of a better metaphor for authoritarianism than a cop kneeling on a man's neck.
I know you arent going to agree with this. I'm not here to change your mind and I honestly dont care much for a response. If you cant see why the right has a propensity for authoritarianism then you are blind to reality. Take care.
Democratic leaders are the authoritarians. The mayor of Los Angeles threatened to turn off anyone's electricity and water if they held a gathering at their house or business. New York's Deblasio announced $10,000 fine for breaking quarantine Mayor Lori Lightfoot banned protests on her block, and ordered the arrest of anyone who won't leave. Mayor Lori Lightfoot is also the one who got a haircut when businesses were first shut down because, rules for thee but not for me.
So let's compare Trump with these 3 democratic officials. Trump wants to bring in Feds to stop rioters from beating and killing people while they loot and burn businesses down. These democratic mayors are telling people they can't exercise their first amendment right. You're either tribal or stupid to believe Trump is the authoritarian when compared to these democrats.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Billy Ray]
#26909760 - 08/31/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Billy Ray said: Democratic leaders are the authoritarians. The mayor of Los Angeles threatened to turn off anyone's electricity and water if they held a gathering at their house or business. New York's Deblasio announced $10,000 fine for breaking quarantine Mayor Lori Lightfoot banned protests on her block, and ordered the arrest of anyone who won't leave. Mayor Lori Lightfoot is also the one who got a haircut when businesses were first shut down because, rules for thee but not for me.
So let's compare Trump with these 3 democratic officials. Trump wants to bring in Feds to stop rioters from beating and killing people while they loot and burn businesses down. These democratic mayors are telling people they can't exercise their first amendment right. You're either tribal or stupid to believe Trump is the authoritarian when compared to these democrats.
Do you live in a city?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: christopera]
#26909763 - 08/31/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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This isn't about me.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: natedawgnow]
#26909767 - 08/31/20 01:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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MagicMush123 said: Its not: government of the people, by the people and for the people?
When lib. left says "the people shall own the means of production and government" it means literally every citizen of that nation. Not the choice few we let run the nation for generations at a time.
Not individual corporations hell bent on wealth at any cost.
Every. Single. Person.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#26909769 - 08/31/20 01:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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MagicMush123 said: Thats literally happening on both sides tho. The protesters and rioters are usually travelling from out of state to participate in whatever they're doing
How do you know this? I know the police in Minneapolis initially said this, but arrest records proved the claim false. Conversely, the Trump caravan explicitly gathered outside Portland in Clackamas county before driving to the city, followed by a portion leaving the official parade route and driving to the protest downtown in vehicles decked out like this:

Earlier in this thread I linked to a database detailing hundreds of similar encounters. Can you provide comparable examples of outside agitators behind these riots?
Well, I've read alot of reports that mention arresting people at protests that were from out of state 
What kind of link is that? Did it only compile "right wing" crime?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence]
#26909776 - 08/31/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eminence said: There's been enough examples of Antifa members arrested for violence in states other than where they live. I don't know about "usually" or how often they do it, but it's already proven.
Are they ever gonna arrest the guy who gave him the gun?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Billy Ray]
#26909781 - 08/31/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Billy Ray said: This isn't about me.
That's a no.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MagicMush123]
#26909793 - 08/31/20 01:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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MagicMush123 said: Thats literally happening on both sides tho. The protesters and rioters are usually travelling from out of state to participate in whatever they're doing
How do you know this? I know the police in Minneapolis initially said this, but arrest records proved the claim false. Conversely, the Trump caravan explicitly gathered outside Portland in Clackamas county before driving to the city, followed by a portion leaving the official parade route and driving to the protest downtown in vehicles decked out like this:

Earlier in this thread I linked to a database detailing hundreds of similar encounters. Can you provide comparable examples of outside agitators behind these riots?
Well, I've read alot of reports that mention arresting people at protests that were from out of state 
What kind of link is that? Did it only compile "right wing" crime?
You don’t see any armed people waving Biden flags driving through towns where they don’t live trying to stir up trouble. You’re not against the violence if you’re supporting this kind of blatant antagonist behavior. You’re not against the violence if you glorify violent people like Kyle Rittenhouse.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
#26909796 - 08/31/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bidens a wet noodle and has no fan base. For the record i dont support extremists no matter which side they're on
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: christopera]
#26909802 - 08/31/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Billy Ray said: This isn't about me.
That's a no.
Your argument is so weak that you’re asking questions about me.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Billy Ray]
#26909808 - 08/31/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Billy Ray]
#26909810 - 08/31/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Billy Ray said: This isn't about me.
That's a no.
Your argument is so weak that you’re asking questions about me.
I didn't make an argument, I asked a simple question. You don't have to get so worked up about it. But given your reaction the answer is obvious.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: christopera]
#26909822 - 08/31/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kelly says Trump behaves like an authoritarian.
Think for yourself.
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That's a no.
Your argument is so weak that you’re asking questions about me.
I didn't make an argument, I asked a simple question. You don't have to get so worked up about it. But given your reaction the answer is obvious.
Whatever you were trying to do, it was foolish. I could answer yes or no and you wouldn’t know if I was telling you the truth.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MagicMush123]
#26909825 - 08/31/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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MagicMush123 said: Bidens a wet noodle and has no fan base. For the record i dont support extremists no matter which side they're on
So denounce the outside agitators waving trump flags who drove into Portland with pepper spray and paint balls
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods] 1
#26909838 - 08/31/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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MagicMush123 said: Bidens a wet noodle and has no fan base. For the record i dont support extremists no matter which side they're on
So denounce the outside agitators waving trump flags who drove into Portland with pepper spray and paint balls
You can say the above quote was me denouncing them
Did you ever once denounce the violence caused by "protesters" yet?
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