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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26904749 - 08/28/20 06:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Have you ever done a BRF/coir shoebox?


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26904802 - 08/28/20 07:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

No I’ve done grain spawn shoeboxes. Same principles though. I prefer monos.


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26905497 - 08/29/20 06:14 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

ah I see, that explains things a little more.


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26907171 - 08/30/20 07:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hey so another question here.

If I'm having trouble getting pins due to insufficient lighting because of the bag, how long until I can take the bag off and just let the tub go as is? Should I be waiting until signs of pins? Seeing lots of primordia.


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26907653 - 08/30/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

So day 10 on this now, here are some images. Looks like the myc is definitely knotting up in some places. Can't quite make out any pins just yet but I'm sure they aren't far behind.

Been misting once in the morning now, a good gentle yet healthy mist and that seems to have improved how quickly water was evaporation. That plus the new bag with less holes I'm sure plays a significant role. In the first picture below, it looks like a huge lump forming, yet it doesn't look like a pin, it looks too small to be a pin but yet it looks like it almost has the shape of a pin. Would be interested in somebody taking a guess as to what it is before it forms, if it does..into a pin.

I am still concerned about light. I don't know that I have received any tips on lighting. As simple as that task may be, I just don't know if the flourescent light that I have in the closet in which these tubs sit, is enough to penetrate the grocery bags. I could be entirely wrong in that light can't fully penetrate the thin plastic though, it would just be nice to get some confirmation on that without an attitude.

Sorry if pics aren't the best. It isn't easy trying to get a clear, clean close up without touching the substrate with my phone camera



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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26908552 - 08/30/20 06:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I could be wrong but I think all light does is tell them which direction to grow? I think your all good bro if there's enough light to take a photo should be sweet


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: Mtbromo]
    #26908614 - 08/30/20 07:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks man, I know light tells them where to grow, i just thought it was another main pinning trigger so I was worried I wouldn't get pins without proper lighting


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: Mtbromo]
    #26908621 - 08/30/20 07:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I could be wrong but I think all light does is tell them which direction to grow?




Nope


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #26908634 - 08/30/20 07:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I could be wrong but I think all light does is tell them which direction to grow?




Nope



lol sooooo anything to add other than "nope"?


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26908791 - 08/30/20 09:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Mtbromo said:
I could be wrong but I think all light does is tell them which direction to grow?




Nope



lol sooooo anything to add other than "nope"?





That guy snorts too much to help anyone.  I've read multiple times partial light from a window is sufficient.  Light is a pinning trigger.  Plants stretch towards light.  Fungus is not a plant. Although light is a pinning trigger the top people on this site recommend light exposure through all stages of growth.


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: Your Dudeness]
    #26908801 - 08/30/20 09:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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MisterKush said:
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CocaineBuffet said:
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Mtbromo said:
I could be wrong but I think all light does is tell them which direction to grow?




Nope



lol sooooo anything to add other than "nope"?





That guy snorts too much to help anyone.  I've read multiple times partial light from a window is sufficient.  Light is a pinning trigger.  Plants stretch towards light.  Fungus is not a plant. Although light is a pinning trigger the top people on this site recommend light exposure through all stages of growth.



So yet again, is the bag preventing sufficient light?

sorry to sound like a dick. just have asked this about 3 or 4 times now.


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26908817 - 08/30/20 09:40 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If you're talking about the giant bag I'd go with clear plastic.  One of the pictures looks like a green spot could be blue bruising cant tell. 

It's best to get a large plastic tote and make a monotub like pastywhyte prefers.  You have everything else ready to go what's another $10.

EDIT:  Or you can make a SGFC if you're into the whole brevity thing.


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: Your Dudeness]
    #26909175 - 08/31/20 06:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

yeah it's a bruise. I have a mono tub going too, this is just a little experiment


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26909473 - 08/31/20 10:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Getting impatient for pins lol too exciting.

I am a bit nervous about contams though. Every shoebox I have ever done has had some type of bacterial contamination. Look at this picture I just took today, I'm noticing discoloration the myc other than the bruising that seems to be occurring more often from I guess misting...Anyway this discoloration is like yellowish orange color and I'm really hoping it isn't anything major but I could use some help identifying exactly what it is.


But Here are the PE's so far. They seem to be colonizing rather fast for the type of species that they are. They myc looks very fluffy though. Looking healthy otherwise in my opinion.


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26911543 - 09/01/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Getting lots of bruising on the surface of the 1st shoebox(likely from misting)..and yet no pins. This makes me a bit concerned as I fell like the mycelium is just weakening overtime now and it's producing anything. I took off the grocery bag for now and put the lid of the tote on the tub upside down to allow fae still. I'm just wondering that it isn't gettin enough light to trigger pins.

If this is a mistake and I need to just but the bag back on and be more patient please tell me asap so i don't lost this whole thing. I've just always seen pins with cubes by now, at least starting.


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26911684 - 09/01/20 11:11 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You said it in that last sentence bud, just be a little more patient :thumbup: PE's are known to take quite a bit longer to get going than cubes, especially without a casing layer to help keep the microclimate on the surface. Just give them some time :smile: Don't toss anything unless you notice obvious bacterial stuff or molds, you'd be just wasting your time you put into it and it still can produce a flush at least.


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: lookintolearn]
    #26911865 - 09/01/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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You said it in that last sentence bud, just be a little more patient :thumbup: PE's are known to take quite a bit longer to get going than cubes, especially without a casing layer to help keep the microclimate on the surface. Just give them some time :smile: Don't toss anything unless you notice obvious bacterial stuff or molds, you'd be just wasting your time you put into it and it still can produce a flush at least.




Well the one that is further along does not contain PE's it contains P.Mexicube's.

The 2nd tote there that looks like it's still colonizing are the PE's

I'm also now starting to see a very very faint but visible yellowish tint on the surface along with bruising. I'm really not liking this :frown: Not sure what's going wrong..


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26913276 - 09/02/20 07:15 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Seems to be looking more gross each day and still no signs of pins. Funny though how I spawned the first shoebox on this post on the same day as the mini mono I'm also doing and the mono started pinning and looks great but this thing is just looking weak

Frustration, frustration, frustration.:mad2:

Notice how the top seems like it never fully colonized. There are still a couple of chunks of coir just sitting on top. It's almost as if the mycelium just totally gave up and is getting sicker each day or something. (that's just how it looks/seems)

If this thing fruits, will the fruits even be safe to eat?


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26915201 - 09/03/20 08:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

On another note, here is the PE shoebox that I did. Possible showing signs of life? Same amount of spawn ration and everything. If I'm not mistaken, aren't those little tiny white dots the beginning of pins?

Does anyone think this looks like it needs misted?


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Re: Quick Question About Limited Spawn [Re: MisterKush]
    #26921131 - 09/06/20 12:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Update:

Had to throw away the mexicube shoebox :frown:

Never showed any signs of pins whatsoever and was covered in yellow and was bruised to fuck for whatever reason plus it was forming white fluffy blobs of what I believe to be the beginning of trich from what I've seen and read.:mad:What really pisses me off is that I wasn't able to even learn anything from the failure. I can't figure out why my shoeboxes almost ALWAYS slowly start turning yellow and bruising after the first time that I mist them. My misting technique is fine...I mist gently and spray up a foot in the air and let the mist slowly fall onto the substrate. So I know that isn't the problem. I also use bottled water to try to avoid anytime of chemicals or bacteria that could possible be in normal tap water.


PE shoebox is looking okay so far. I ended up removing the grocery bag and just turning it into a dubtub since that method obviously wasn't working and it was too hard to keep the humidity up, thinking maybe that's why pins never showed up. It was also giving off hint of a musty smell that I didn't like, and I'm super sensitive as it is to molds/mildews, so fungus growing may not be the best hobby for me to begin with, but even IF this thing put out some fruit in another week, I really don't think I would want to eat what comes out.


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