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natedawgnow
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Postal accountability and enhancement act. I dun mentioned it on the last page and I was told I had TDS for bringing it up even though my post didnt mention trump in the least.
2006 laws have nothing to do with trump so the accusation came out of nowhere
People are afraid of facts nowadays sadly
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USPS is going under, its being treated as a business and not a service.
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InfiniteDreams


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natedawgnow said: People are afraid of facts nowadays sadly
Not on this forum! As long as you repeat the party line you will be endorsed!
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CookieCrumbs said: Seriously though most of the important stuff that comes through the mail is from the government. Tax stuff, vehicle registration, permits and denial letters.
And then of course there's drugs.
Honestly it does irk me a bit when people say mail service is useless. Just goes to show how removed people are from the supply line. Any business you walk into recieves at least some of the things they need to function cheaply through the USPS.
Though I have seen first hand what corona has done to snail mail. I work in insurance and we are legally required to send some mail via certified mail from USPS. That legal requirement has been suspended and it's saved us boxes of paper. The main reason we're required to do that though is you have to sign to get the mail. The post office has to stamp a reception date. So you can't say you didn't get a warning of imminent cancellation if you don't pay your bill.
Now? That whole department is a mess and legal has their hands full. They're just waiving alot of the smaller bills (don't try that at home) and the money we saved on mail and paper is a drop in the bucket compared to the money we will ultimately lose.
Excellent point in your first sentence. Excellent point in your second sentence.
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"Business friendly fiscal conservatives" are going to destroy an insane number of small businesses in the US of they fail to keep the USPS functioning.
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If your business depends on the usps, its subsidized by tax money and debt.
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bodhisatta 
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Yea any small business can adapt lol. You use a different carrier and pass the cost to the customer with transparency. Hey customers we can't guarantee timely shipments with USPS we no longer offer free shipping. We will use a different carrier see rates below
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theRealrollforever
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I was just thinking I guess ima have to charge a couple more bucks for shipping in the future of this happens Really they will just destroy cheap shipping option for the consumer. Businesses will be mostly unaffected me thinks
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christopera
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Some of my products would see a 50% increase in price based on the current rates for shipping via alternative shippers.
That means less people buy. I already got destroyed by increased tolling costs as a result of the tariffs.
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blewmeanie said: If your business depends on the usps, its subsidized by tax money and debt.
lol. If you are worried about my subsidies, you better not look at what other companies in this country receive.
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bodhisatta said: Yea any small business can adapt lol. You use a different carrier and pass the cost to the customer with transparency. Hey customers we can't guarantee timely shipments with USPS we no longer offer free shipping. We will use a different carrier see rates below
Passing it on the consumer doesn't mean I sell as much volume, in means less volume, and my margins are already fairly thin. Consumers don't magically have more money to compensate for more shipping expenses.
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theRealrollforever said: I was just thinking I guess ima have to charge a couple more bucks for shipping in the future of this happens Really they will just destroy cheap shipping option for the consumer. Businesses will be mostly unaffected me thinks
See above. I'm not sure what you are shipping, but for me to move from USPS to Fedex or UPS I would often see a 50% or more increase in shipping cost.
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Yeah but Iām thinking in terms of once usps is gone. Itās gone for everyone. Everyone will be taking the increased hit and then consumers wonāt be seeing it as an individual business raising prices, as they will have to pay the difference no matter who they use and the only way to avoid that is get off their lazy ass which is not gonna happen lol
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That still ignores that consumers will have less free capital as a result of inflated shipping costs. Simply put, it will result in less buying power. That means less sales.
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Maybe in an economic textbook and on a huge scale you are right, but I just donāt see a couple bucks in shipping as big of a deal as you do. I am selling art so the buying power isnāt going to affect my demand the same way. If I was buying and reselling goods with a slim margin for resale it could cripple something like that. Anything that people actually need or want badly enough though, people will shift their buying power accordingly.
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blewmeanie said: If your business depends on the usps, its subsidized by tax money and debt.
lol. If you are worried about my subsidies, you better not look at what other companies in this country receive.
Certain industries are subsidized because it's a strategic advantage to the country for those industries to exist. I'm not particularly in favor of most those either. That's the theory though.
While I'm sure the hand made unicorn dildos you sell on etsy are lovely, they're not necessary for the security of the nation, so I don't want to pay for it, which is exactly what I'm doing with you use the post office.
If what you're shipping is under 5 pounds, there's a good chance you can ship it cheaper with FedEx anyway, unless we're talking about mailers.
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Also I bet money that once the post office is gone, more private shipping companies will open or st the very least fedex and ups will have to compete for the business of the small mailers being mailed everywhere daily. They will most likely offer a different ground option with a slower turnaround if there was a hugely underserved market
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I don't know if it would be gone entirely, just privatized.
Didn't germany privatize their postal service? I think I remember hearing something about that.
edit: yeah, here it is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Post#:~:text=2%20January%201995%3A%20Deutsche%20Bundespost,acquiring%20shares%20in%20DHL%20International.
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CookieCrumbs
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bodhisatta said: Yea any small business can adapt lol. You use a different carrier and pass the cost to the customer with transparency. Hey customers we can't guarantee timely shipments with USPS we no longer offer free shipping. We will use a different carrier see rates below
Small business is already struggling because they can't compete with massive conglomerates in pricing.
The Piggly wiggly has been replaced by Walmart and shit like this is a big reason why.
Rip Piggly wiggly š
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christopera
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christopera said:
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blewmeanie said: If your business depends on the usps, its subsidized by tax money and debt.
lol. If you are worried about my subsidies, you better not look at what other companies in this country receive.
Certain industries are subsidized because it's a strategic advantage to the country for those industries to exist. I'm not particularly in favor of most those either. That's the theory though.
While I'm sure the hand made unicorn dildos you sell on etsy are lovely, they're not necessary for the security of the nation, so I don't want to pay for it, which is exactly what I'm doing with you use the post office.
If what you're shipping is under 5 pounds, there's a good chance you can ship it cheaper with FedEx anyway, unless we're talking about mailers.
I ship under 5 pounds all the time, but I also get a volume discount with USPS, so again, FedEx can't compete.
So, Apple, Amazon, GM, Chrysler, and a never ending list of other tax dodging corporate welfare earners get a priority over the little guy? That's a great sell. You should run for office.
I don't sell on Etsy, because Etsy is a terrible platform. But again, if you are worried about that small amount of tax you may be spending with the USPS, then don't take a look at the rest of where your tax money is going.
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blewmeanie



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christopera said:
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christopera said:
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blewmeanie said: If your business depends on the usps, its subsidized by tax money and debt.
lol. If you are worried about my subsidies, you better not look at what other companies in this country receive.
Certain industries are subsidized because it's a strategic advantage to the country for those industries to exist. I'm not particularly in favor of most those either. That's the theory though.
While I'm sure the hand made unicorn dildos you sell on etsy are lovely, they're not necessary for the security of the nation, so I don't want to pay for it, which is exactly what I'm doing with you use the post office.
If what you're shipping is under 5 pounds, there's a good chance you can ship it cheaper with FedEx anyway, unless we're talking about mailers.
I ship under 5 pounds all the time, but I also get a volume discount with USPS, so again, FedEx can't compete.
So, Apple, Amazon, GM, Chrysler, and a never ending list of other tax dodging corporate welfare earners get a priority over the little guy? That's a great sell. You should run for office.
I don't sell on Etsy, because Etsy is a terrible platform. But again, if you are worried about that small amount of tax you may be spending with the USPS, then don't take a look at the rest of where your tax money is going.
It's not a small amount. If I remember correctly, they're running at a 10 - 15 billion dollar deficit per year.
All that aside, have you looked into a FedEx corporate account? It should be something like 20% off for ground and 40% for express. I used to manage drop shipping for an ecommerce company, and express was often cheaper for us than ground.
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CookieCrumbs said:
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bodhisatta said: Yea any small business can adapt lol. You use a different carrier and pass the cost to the customer with transparency. Hey customers we can't guarantee timely shipments with USPS we no longer offer free shipping. We will use a different carrier see rates below
Small business is already struggling because they can't compete with massive conglomerates in pricing.
The Piggly wiggly has been replaced by Walmart and shit like this is a big reason why.
Rip Piggly wiggly š 
I knew the kids of the owner's of Piggly. They lived in elm Grove Wisconsin. Piggly wiggly is such shit. The worst grocery store in the state besides aldi
I won't even look at their meat. Their whole produce section makes that imperfect produce company look like Mercedes produce.
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shut this whole thread down admin -its minging the fuck out of my exclusive posts

everybody on this thread is gay as fuk
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