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Re: 5-mapb [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26911367 - 09/01/20 08:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I find 6-APB to be much more stimulant than MDMA, in a bad way.

Where does 5-MAPB stand on the stimulant-to-empathogen scale?


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Re: 5-mapb [Re: Asante]
    #26911395 - 09/01/20 08:20 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I found it to be very stimmy and euphoric. I was amazed at the euphoria actually. BUT, the bruxism was VERY strong compared to mdma and mda, mda is more so than mdma to me, but still manageable. With 5-mapb had a sore jaw for a week almost and the 6-apb was almost as bad if not the same. It's very hard to fight it. I almost couldn't eat the next actually. It's weird how it makes that particular side effect pronounced. I also see rainbow halos around lights when I do 6-apb and 5-mapb at a dose of 120-150mg. I didn't get that with mdma until the 250-300mg range. I have never taken over 425mg of mdma (knowingly), and never more than 250-350mg of the apb's in a night. I did spread it out over 3 doses. I like the 250mg range for mdma and mda, and the 125-250mg range for the apb's. I usually don't push the max these days and thankfully every time I do any of these it hits like it did all those years ago.:grin:


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Re: 5-mapb [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26911402 - 09/01/20 08:22 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

OK, thank you, then use of 5-MAPB is out for me. I'm stimulant intolerant due to previous stimulant abuse.


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Re: 5-mapb [Re: Asante]
    #26911458 - 09/01/20 08:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Last weekend I was at a psytrance birthday party and took ~140mg of 6-APB + a hit of ALD52. It was very stimulating, yes, I danced like 8+ hours with few very short breaks. I just couldn't stand still. :smirk:

But no obvious teeth grinding, I don't know why but it doesn't affect me too strong this way. With MDMA I get it very strong, but not so much with 6-APB.

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Re: 5-mapb [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26911466 - 09/01/20 08:58 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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took ~140mg of 6-APB + a hit of ALD52. I just couldn't stand still.




I think spacetime would have collapsed into a singularity if you had!

Dancing was the only thing to do :O

I bet you were obscenely gushing with euphoria. My MDMA + LSD experience was INSANE.




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Re: 5-mapb [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26911469 - 09/01/20 09:01 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Oh yeah, with what you have posted about all that it might not be OK. It's supposed to be less neurotoxic than mdma. Maybe though, does this help?

Stimulation - In terms of its effects on the user's physical energy levels, 5-MAPB is commonly regarded as significantly less stimulating and energizing than MDMA, while still retaining its core entactogenic effects. Unlike MDMA, which encourages activities such as running, climbing and dancing in a way that makes it a popular choice for musical events such as festivals and raves. The distinct style of stimulation which 5-MAPB presents can be described as mildly to moderately forced, trending more towards sedation and relaxation. This means that at higher doses, it becomes difficult or impossible to keep still as jaw clenching, involuntarily body shakes and vibrations become present, resulting in an extreme unsteadiness of the hands and a general lack of motor control, though to a far lesser degree than with MDMA.

Metabolism and toxicity
Little formal knowledge exists on 5-MAPB. It does not form the alpha-methyldopamine metabolite that contributes to the neurotoxicity of MDMA or MDA.[6][7][8] A study in rats indicated that the major metabolites of 5-MAPB are 5-APB and 3-carboxymethyl-4-hydroxymethamphetamine.[9]

Pharmacodynamics
5-MAPB binds to the dopamine transporter in rat brain cells with a lower potency than cocaine. In silico data suggests that the primary action on dopamine is through reversal of the transporter to release dopamine. This is consistent with the effects and it is possible that it exerts a similar action on serotonin and norepinephrine transporters


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Re: 5-mapb [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26911481 - 09/01/20 09:06 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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In silico data suggests that the primary action on dopamine is through reversal of the transporter to release dopamine. This is consistent with the effects and it is possible that it exerts a similar action on serotonin and norepinephrine transporters




I've had drug psychosis before, dopamine rushes are not for me.

Thanks for digging that up!


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Re: 5-mapb [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26911485 - 09/01/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: 5-mapb [Re: Asante]
    #26912919 - 09/01/20 10:21 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

it was very euphoric, lasted about 8 hours.  NO SLEEPING  I got a really trippy head, like a come up to a 2C-x,  everything vivid, but no colors.  A lot of vibrating vision. I also took 25mg of 2-fma with.  Gonna get 2 more grams, but it is expensive.

I was rolling, and felt really good.  with the 2-fma, it was a strong euphoric MDMA.  I am going to try it with some 5-meo-mipt. (Moxy)


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Re: 5-mapb [Re: starfire_xes]
    #26914585 - 09/02/20 09:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

im baggin up 80mg hits....have to order another 2g.  :awehigh:


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Re: 5-mapb [Re: starfire_xes]
    #26915845 - 09/03/20 03:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

is this stuff legal in Canada?


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Re: 5-mapb [Re: gopher]
    #26916475 - 09/03/20 09:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

no.


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Re: 5-mapb [Re: gopher] * 1
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Re: 5-mapb [Re: PatrickKn]
    #26918606 - 09/05/20 04:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

i did 85mg yesterday.  very trippy!  lots of euphoria, and i sat in the mountains for 4 hours.  very nice substance.  it is mostly emphatogenic and a bit trippy.


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Re: 5-mapb [Re: starfire_xes]
    #26918607 - 09/05/20 04:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Starfire, you're doing this way too often. You can't keep on rolling every few days that will catch up on you and you may get health issues that may take months to clear.

Even with clean MDMA you need a month between sessions at the least.


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Re: 5-mapb [Re: Asante]
    #26919059 - 09/05/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

true. I am trying to hold out for 3 to 4 weeks between rolls.  Maybe ill have to stock up on psyches and do normally tripping for a while, and keep working out, eating better, etc.  But it is pretty awesome rolling/tripping up in the mountains.

Like here....



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Re: 5-mapb [Re: starfire_xes]
    #26920148 - 09/05/20 08:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

asante, I am going to roll my ass off and trip balls.....  :awedisgust:


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Re: 5-mapb [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
    #26920245 - 09/05/20 10:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

That's where Bigfoot lives..


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Re: 5-mapb [Re: Shiithead]
    #26920258 - 09/05/20 10:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Because of this thread I went looking for some 5-mapb. What I learned is that I have no idea how to buy RC's these days.


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Re: 5-mapb [Re: starfire_xes]
    #26920539 - 09/06/20 06:48 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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asante, I am going to roll my ass off and trip balls.....  :awedisgust:



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