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lostintimenspc
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race riots lol 1
#26908586 - 08/30/20 06:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's completely submissive to think race exists. All it could ever be is a compensation for an inferiority.
I think it's all said but feel free to discuss.
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psi
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Yeah I think we are better off just abandoning the concept. Especially the idea that there is some sort of pureness that is lost when different looking people have kids together. Fuck all that. That said, my wife and I are both of West European ancestry ultimately.
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Re: race riots lol [Re: psi] 2
#26908625 - 08/30/20 07:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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psi said: Yeah I think we are better off just abandoning the concept.
No question in theory, and in a perfect world, this right here would be the way.
But...hate to be a downer, ain't gonna happen. Not anytime soon anyway. And probably never.
Racism, in all of its forms, has been around since the beginning of the human race, and it's still here, and it'll almost assuredly be here until the human race ceases to exist.
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Re: race riots lol [Re: Niffla]
#26908659 - 08/30/20 07:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah the concept probably will not go away. But "race mixing" will happen regardless and the divisions will keep getting blurrier. An increasing number of people will be harder to pin down as any particular race as people draw the divisions today.
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Re: race riots lol [Re: psi]
#26908665 - 08/30/20 07:42 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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psi said: But "race mixing" will happen regardless and the divisions will keep getting blurrier. An increasing number of people will be harder to pin down as any particular race as people draw the divisions today.
Yeah that's a good point, true.
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Re: race riots lol [Re: Niffla]
#26908827 - 08/30/20 09:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think it can be a useful concept for describing what a person looks like. Like, if you've never met me before and you're looking for me in a crowd, I could tell you I'm a tall, black guy and you'd have an easier time finding me.
That said, I can't really think of many other useful applications for race as a concept.
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Re: race riots lol [Re: Niffla] 1
#26908935 - 08/30/20 11:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Niffla said:
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psi said: Yeah I think we are better off just abandoning the concept.
No question in theory, and in a perfect world, this right here would be the way.
But...hate to be a downer, ain't gonna happen. Not anytime soon anyway. And probably never.
Racism, in all of its forms, has been around since the beginning of the human race, and it's still here, and it'll almost assuredly be here until the human race ceases to exist.
I think its only a matter of time until racism all but ceases to exist now that the world is connected by airplanes. I think everyone is going to get so mixed up that people with "pure" genes will become extremely rare. Atleast thats what appears to be happening in the west, Obviously there is North Korea which extremely isolated and external genes just don't make it into the population.
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Asante
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If Enlil and I align its time to pay attention as I'm strongly led by emotion and hes strongly led by rationality.
Race is a social construct, not a scientific parameter. If you take two random black guys and a black guy and a white guy, also at random, the two black guys are genetically more different than the black guy and the white guy. That is science fact. Genetically blacks and whites have more in common than blacks among themselves have in common. There are more "races" within Africa than outside of it.
So "race"is a bullshit social construct, its not scientific and scientists with their heads screwed on straight do not deal in it.
The few scientists whith their head screwed on crooked are championed by the racist community so that it seems that scientific racism still has a place in contemporary science.
It does not.
A fully balanced human being FEELS racism is wrong and THINKS racism is wrong.
If you look at the microcosm of our site, the outspoken racist ones typically are not the brightest light in the christmas tree, both as to the quality of their rational thought and their emotional intelligence.
Racism is primitive and counterproductive because it turns most of the world into an enemy.
Not just does it make you a menace to others, it also makes you unpalatable to most people, including many of your own racial group.
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Re: race riots lol [Re: psi]
#26909253 - 08/31/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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psi said:
Yeah I think we are better off just abandoning the concept. Especially the idea that there is some sort of pureness that is lost when different looking people have kids together. Fuck all that. That said, my wife and I are both of West European ancestry ultimately.
It's amazing people still claim Obama was the first black president when he is as much a white man as black.
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Re: race riots lol [Re: Asante]
#26909327 - 08/31/20 09:02 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(biology)#:~:text=In%20biological%20taxonomy%2C%20race%20is,Various%20definitions%20exist.

Race is an entirely valid classification. Although a simplistic breakdown into black, white...etc, is not particularly informative in an age of rampant miscegenation.
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Asante
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In biological taxonomy, race is an informal rank in the taxonomic hierarchy
In other words, not really.
Humans are too similar for there to be a genetic racial difference.
Classifying race by geographic location is just lame since human genetic traits are found the world over.
White mice and black mice aren't races of mice, its a variety, nothing more.
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RJ Tubs 202 said:
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psi said:
Yeah I think we are better off just abandoning the concept. Especially the idea that there is some sort of pureness that is lost when different looking people have kids together. Fuck all that. That said, my wife and I are both of West European ancestry ultimately.
It's amazing people still claim Obama was the first black president when he is as much a white man as black.
I bet if you did a dna test on him he would me more white than black. Most black people in the usa have some European blood. That's why they look different than Africans.
I actually like how everyone's different. Would you really want everyone to be the same color? Do you really want men and women to me the same? I don't. The radical left likes to pretend we're all the same but we're not. Hints why most people dislike the new star wars films....
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Re: race riots lol [Re: Asante]
#26909379 - 08/31/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you call people a different variety it still serves the same purpose and will be used to classify people because we need and use distinctions to properly communicate our thoughts to eachother. It's the connotation of the word race that is something to take issue with but the reason the connotation exists at all is because historically people didnt travel as much and that meant most communities would be one particular colour making any conflicts an inherently racial endeavour. All that aside I don't think there's anything wrong with going "You're black, you're white." visual classification is a totally normal thing in science so if I can say something scientifically then it's clearly not intended to be offensive.
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Re: race riots lol [Re: Asante]
#26909557 - 08/31/20 11:38 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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That’s not what they mean by informal in this context
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informal_group_(taxonomy)
//* In human taxonomy, the informal taxonomic rank of race is variously considered equivalent or subordinate to the rank of subspecies. *//
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Re: race riots lol [Re: Asante]
#26910274 - 08/31/20 05:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Asante said: If Enlil and I align its time to pay attention as I'm strongly led by emotion and hes strongly led by rationality.
Race is a social construct, not a scientific parameter. If you take two random black guys and a black guy and a white guy, also at random, the two black guys are genetically more different than the black guy and the white guy. That is science fact. Genetically blacks and whites have more in common than blacks among themselves have in common. There are more "races" within Africa than outside of it.
So "race"is a bullshit social construct, its not scientific and scientists with their heads screwed on straight do not deal in it.
The few scientists whith their head screwed on crooked are championed by the racist community so that it seems that scientific racism still has a place in contemporary science.
It does not.
A fully balanced human being FEELS racism is wrong and THINKS racism is wrong.
If you look at the microcosm of our site, the outspoken racist ones typically are not the brightest light in the christmas tree, both as to the quality of their rational thought and their emotional intelligence.
Racism is primitive and counterproductive because it turns most of the world into an enemy.
Not just does it make you a menace to others, it also makes you unpalatable to most people, including many of your own racial group.
Africans generally dont have neandralthol genes, I want to get a DNA test just to see how much neandrthol I have, I will be sad if its lower then normal
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Shenmue
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larry.fisherman said: If you call people a different variety it still serves the same purpose and will be used to classify people because we need and use distinctions to properly communicate our thoughts to eachother. It's the connotation of the word race that is something to take issue with but the reason the connotation exists at all is because historically people didnt travel as much and that meant most communities would be one particular colour making any conflicts an inherently racial endeavour. All that aside I don't think there's anything wrong with going "You're black, you're white." visual classification is a totally normal thing in science so if I can say something scientifically then it's clearly not intended to be offensive.
Exactly! I don't understand why people make a big deal out of this stuff. If America was full of racism Obama would have never been president. I freaking hate identity politics, feminism and political correctness. It's the reason trump won in the first place. The one's bitching about this stuff are the ones getting trump elected. They're fucking themselves..
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Re: race riots lol [Re: gopher]
#26910332 - 08/31/20 05:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I had mine tested. Im 100% European lol. Im mostly English.. My blood line has been here from the very beginning. So I had family members in every united States war ...
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