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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods] * 1
    #26907940 - 08/30/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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The guy in white says “we got another one right here.” Then “he’s pulling it out.” Then another voice says “here?”

The guy in white is with the guy who got shot. After the shooting he says “Jake. You alright?”

This changes the story entirely. Those two MAGA guys identified the shooter for some reason as “another one right here.” I think the “he’s pulling it out” is referring to his gun and the “here” is the victim looking at the shooter and getting the pepper spray ready.




That is the exact opposite of what happened. The MAGA guy was walking alone. Skateboard guy yells out we got another one right here! gunman says here? MAGA guy starts to mace and is shot twice at the same time.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26908077 - 08/30/20 02:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Women are much easier to train than men, in shooting. I have done alot of live fire range ops; the ladies had no preconceived notions of how to shoot while the fellas lumbered around thinking everything was daddy's shotgun.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Azus] * 1
    #26908151 - 08/30/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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The guy in white says “we got another one right here.” Then “he’s pulling it out.” Then another voice says “here?”

The guy in white is with the guy who got shot. After the shooting he says “Jake. You alright?”

This changes the story entirely. Those two MAGA guys identified the shooter for some reason as “another one right here.” I think the “he’s pulling it out” is referring to his gun and the “here” is the victim looking at the shooter and getting the pepper spray ready.




That is the exact opposite of what happened. The MAGA guy was walking alone. Skateboard guy yells out we got another one right here! gunman says here? MAGA guy starts to mace and is shot twice at the same time.




Anyone who is claiming to know exactly what happened last night is lying; and we should be especially doubtful that this account - which apparently registered today and so far has only made four posts about these recent shootings - is here with the intention of participating in anything but the spread of disinformation.

The only thing confirmed is that shortly after most of the Trump parade had left downtown Portland, a supporter of patriot prayer was shot in the chest and died. Man killed during Portland protests was a supporter of far-right group Patriot Prayer


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
    #26908214 - 08/30/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I will say this,

August 15th Portland counter-protest: 2 gunshots fired at protesters

August 22nd Portland counter-protest: man brandishes handgun at protesters

August 24th: couple who brandished firearms at protesters speak at the RNC

August 25th: 3 protesters shot, 2 fatally, in Kenosha - shooter is widely embraced by conservative media

August 29th Portland counter-protest: Patriot Prayer supporter shot dead




This is what accelerationism looks like.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
    #26908258 - 08/30/20 04:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Too bad Kyle Rittenhouse wasn't around that patriot prayer guy. I only just heard of it, but knowing these people, he probably didn't do a damn thing to get himself shot other than be openly anti-communist. Especially considering how reluctant (to a fault) many Trump supporters are to even fight any of these people.


Also, it's people like you that are facilitating this "accelerationism" in the first place. No white supremacists need to artificially create this environment, when groups like BLM and Antifa and the government itself in multiple ways are doing the work for them already.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence] * 3
    #26908356 - 08/30/20 04:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I will say this,

August 15th Portland counter-protest: 2 gunshots fired at protesters

August 22nd Portland counter-protest: man brandishes handgun at protesters

August 24th: couple who brandished firearms at protesters speak at the RNC

August 25th: 3 protesters shot, 2 fatally, in Kenosha - shooter is widely embraced by conservative media

August 29th Portland counter-protest: Patriot Prayer supporter shot dead




This is what accelerationism looks like.



The McCloskeys brandished firearms because protesters were marching on a private street.  Why are you making them out to be part of white supremacy accelerationism?

Kyle Rittenhouse is being embraced by conservative media because progressive media was quick to slam him.  A lot of people think he acted on self defense.  When you have media outlets slamming him, the ones that believe it was self-defense are going to embrace him. 

Patriot prayer protester shot dead.  How is that part of the nefarious accelerationist plans of white supremacists?


“ Accelerationism is a term white supremacists have assigned to their desire to hasten the collapse of society as we know it.”
White supremacists are the ones trying to collapse society as we know it?  Are they the ones destroying cities and toppling statues and rewriting American history?

“ Destabilization by Whatever Means Necessary.”
Replace destabilization with  justice and you have the thesis of this protester’s speech.  The protester emphasized by any means necessary.


“But at the core of accelerationism is the goal of creating societal chaos.  Tarrant wrote, “True change and the change we need to enact only arises in the great crucible of crisis. A gradual change is never going to achieve victory.  Stability and comfort are the enemies of revolutionary change.  Therefore [sic] we must destabilize and discomfort society where ever possible.”
This reminds me of one of the latest protest chants, “Wake up motherfucker wake up.”

Accelerationism is happening but not because of white supremacy.  BLM and Antifa are not benefiting anyone and are doing their beat to destroy the States.  I wonder where the millions of dollars that were donated to BLM have gone.  Do you know?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Billy Ray]
    #26908374 - 08/30/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

He's a communist. They're big into the whole "accuse others of what you're guilty of" tactic they like to write about in their "revolutionary" handbooks.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence] * 4
    #26908394 - 08/30/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

@Shiva: What some call accelerationism other people call a natural response to having their cities destroyed and no one doing anything about it.

Let me ask you an open ended question: How much destruction OUGHT to be tolerated, especially if the police stand down, before citizens are allowed to defend their property with the use of force?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] * 3
    #26908416 - 08/30/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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@Shiva: What some call accelerationism other people call a natural response to having their cities destroyed and no one doing anything about it.

Let me ask you an open ended question: How much destruction OUGHT to be tolerated, especially if the police stand down, before citizens are allowed to defend their property with the use of force?




I think the existing laws are our only guidance on the issue. Residential property is different than business property. Either way, the destruction of the property is a crime.

Can I shoot someone destroying my business property?  I don't know, but if that destruction of property can potentially harm the people inside of it, what is a legal response?

I really don't even care about the laws involving residential property destruction, I'm going to defend my home if a mob of people want to cause harm to it and myself.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #26908433 - 08/30/20 05:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I will say this,

August 15th Portland counter-protest: 2 gunshots fired at protesters

August 22nd Portland counter-protest: man brandishes handgun at protesters

August 24th: couple who brandished firearms at protesters speak at the RNC

August 25th: 3 protesters shot, 2 fatally, in Kenosha - shooter is widely embraced by conservative media

August 29th Portland counter-protest: Patriot Prayer supporter shot dead




This is what accelerationism looks like.



I think all your points are weak, but most importantly why do you feel that the couple from Missouri were wrong?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MagicMush123]
    #26908546 - 08/30/20 06:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not bringing up those news stories to say "oh see they do it too". In part I was establishing the pattern of protester-directed gun violence every weekend when counter-protesters gathered in Portland this month. I also pointed out the normalization of this type of gun violence; signified by both inviting the couple who are famous solely for brandishing firearms at protesters to speak at the RNC, and of conservative medias embrace of someone who shot and killed two protesters. All that leads up to an environment where gun violence became highly likely this weekend - encouraging it on both sides.

And if you'll take the time to read up on accelerationism, you'll realize it didn't matter who died this weekend - either way, it's only going to further destabilize things to the benefit of the most extreme elements. The whole point of antifascism is that you fight with fists and bats so that you don't have to fight with knives and guns. My point is that this month has seen dangerous accelerationism via the normalization of guns at protests, and that's a bad thing.

I'm not commenting on the shooting last night because I haven't seen enough information yet.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
    #26908580 - 08/30/20 06:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

But according to your first link it was suggested that the man shot blanks, and in the video there didn't appear to protesters where he fired.
2nd link it appeared that the protesters were shot at with paintball guns and he brandished it for they would stop shooting at them, probably
And the last link actually didn't work for me, but i believe you.

The couple from Missouri brandished firearms at an angry mob that just broke down their gate and proceeded to trespass on their private property. Im sorry, but when you break down people's gates and trespass on their private property you are no longer protesting and they had every right to brandish firearms and demand they leave.
Idk why they were invited to the rnc but it probably because the media vilified them when they were minding their own business eating dinner and mob decided to ruin their evening and trespass on their property. People were happy that they had to balls to stand up to those thugs


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MagicMush123]
    #26908624 - 08/30/20 07:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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But according to your first link it was suggested that the man shot blanks, and in the video there didn't appear to protesters where he fired.
2nd link it appeared that the protesters were shot at with paintball guns and he brandished it for they would stop shooting at them, probably
And the last link actually didn't work for me, but i believe you.

The couple from Missouri brandished firearms at an angry mob that just broke down their gate and proceeded to trespass on their private property. Im sorry, but when you break down people's gates and trespass on their private property you are no longer protesting and they had every right to brandish firearms and demand they leave.
Idk why they were invited to the rnc but it probably because the media vilified them when they were minding their own business eating dinner and mob decided to ruin their evening and trespass on their property. People were happy that they had to balls to stand up to those thugs




In my opinion, the Missouri couple exercised extreme patience and self control in that situation. A lot people wouldn't have played that stupid game of chicken with a violent mob.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Billy Ray]
    #26908647 - 08/30/20 07:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Kyle Rittenhouse is being embraced by conservative media because progressive media was quick to slam him.   






That's a really stupid way to form an opinion. Has conservative media just started saying the opposite of traditional media now?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: christopera] * 1
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
    #26908743 - 08/30/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm not bringing up those news stories to say "oh see they do it too". In part I was establishing the pattern of protester-directed gun violence every weekend when counter-protesters gathered in Portland this month. I also pointed out the normalization of this type of gun violence; signified by both inviting the couple who are famous solely for brandishing firearms at protesters to speak at the RNC, and of conservative medias embrace of someone who shot and killed two protesters. All that leads up to an environment where gun violence became highly likely this weekend - encouraging it on both sides.

And if you'll take the time to read up on accelerationism, you'll realize it didn't matter who died this weekend - either way, it's only going to further destabilize things to the benefit of the most extreme elements. The whole point of antifascism is that you fight with fists and bats so that you don't have to fight with knives and guns. My point is that this month has seen dangerous accelerationism via the normalization of guns at protests, and that's a bad thing.

I'm not commenting on the shooting last night because I haven't seen enough information yet.



Have you considered that the "protesters" are actually rioters looting and hurting people and therefore they are being hurt in return?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 2
    #26908749 - 08/30/20 08:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Shivas you seem like a genuine and honest person kn these forums but I see ypu failing to realize that protesters and rioters are not the same thing.  These "protesters" ypu speak of last for qbout 3 hours then the sun sets and they turn into rioters.  You're being dishonest with yourseld if you think that they arent creating their own problems.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: meltdowner]
    #26908796 - 08/30/20 09:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Shivas you seem like a genuine and honest person kn these forums but I see ypu failing to realize that protesters and rioters are not the same thing.  These "protesters" ypu speak of last for qbout 3 hours then the sun sets and they turn into rioters.  You're being dishonest with yourseld if you think that they arent creating their own problems.




I don't think it serves any purpose to make these broad generalizations. What percentage of the protesters actually riot?  We don't know.

A very small percentage of people can cause a LOT of destruction, so let's not make generalizations suggesting it's all protesters being violent thugs. In fact, during the massive Floyd protests, the vast majority of people were very peaceful and it was the cops who were the violent thugs.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: qman]
    #26908879 - 08/30/20 10:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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The whole point of antifascism is that you fight with fists and bats so that you don't have to fight with knives and guns.




I'm pretty sure a bat can kill almost as easily as a knife can.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26908932 - 08/30/20 11:40 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I've been beaten in the face with a bat in my sleep and walked away from it.  Might not have gone so well had I been stabbed in the face.


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