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Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! * 2
    #26907324 - 08/30/20 09:22 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

After months of trying I've finally got this beautiful psilocybe pinning. Spawned on 7/3 and cased around 7/15. Looks like theres lots of nice little clusters 🤞 wish me luck on getting to spores




9/1 slow growth but progress


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9/21 looks like they wanna open their caps 🤞


9/25 looks like I'm just waiting on spores now 🤞


9/27 Spores!


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9/30 lots of spores!


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26907338 - 08/30/20 09:31 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Congrats man, keep us updated. I got a zap swab once, put it to agar and got nothing but mold. Super interested in the species, don't know much about em.


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Wall.E]
    #26907622 - 08/30/20 11:34 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

What spawn and sub did you use??

You gotta let us know if you think they’ve got a unique trip to them when they’re done.


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: A.k.a]
    #26907819 - 08/30/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah man..
You almost there...hope those pins fatten up and plump out for you!!


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Zifozonke]
    #26907953 - 08/30/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Asura]
    #26908073 - 08/30/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Cased a month ago?  Congraduations on no contams my friend!


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Your Dudeness]
    #26908096 - 08/30/20 02:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Zaps are very contam resistant like semperviva


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26908112 - 08/30/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

shit a month is fast as hell for zaps 👍👍


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: jcm4620]
    #26911231 - 09/01/20 06:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Small update. They're growing! Coming along nice and slow 😅



Those are the 2 biggest clusters but there's a lot more just poking thru now too!


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26911252 - 09/01/20 06:42 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Pasty was just talking about how potent these fuckers are. How much more potent are they than cubes? Roughly. I'd never heard about them until last night


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Gan]
    #26911257 - 09/01/20 06:45 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

From what I've heard they're up there with azurescens, but I honestly don't know for sure. The zapotec shamans have been using them in their ceremonies for over a thousand of years though.


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26911291 - 09/01/20 07:15 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Their name is what drew me into these. Youll have to let us know if you get spores. From what I've read it's really difficult to get them


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Wall.E]
    #26911310 - 09/01/20 07:29 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I've heard the same, getting to spores is the hard part. I have 5 qt jars more spawn nearly colonized I'm going to do some trials with different substrates.


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26911325 - 09/01/20 07:38 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Nice man, can't wait to keep following


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Wall.E]
    #26914237 - 09/02/20 06:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Small update today. Slow but steady growth. Seeing some cap differentiation on some pins and also lots of new ones popping up all over as well.



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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26917437 - 09/04/20 01:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Update for today


They're still small but if you look close theres pins everywhere! And that big guy is looking super pretty! They seem to like the FC 🤷‍♂️


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26918080 - 09/04/20 07:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Nice man! The first pic makes it look like there are loads of pins.


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Wall.E]
    #26923148 - 09/07/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Moving right along 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍


I had to pluck out a few aborts yesterday, but there are a load of new pins 🤷‍♂️


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26923161 - 09/07/20 02:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Very nice brother 🙏🙏🙏


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: seand04]
    #26941992 - 09/18/20 08:36 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Update, very slow progress but we're still rocking! I've had to pluck some aborts here and there, but they seem to like it extremely wet.



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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26942754 - 09/18/20 04:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

lol man these are slow.

They look a lot like tamps. Once I started doing different species I realized cubes are sort of weird in that they seem to be the only type that likes drier conditions.


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: A.k.a]
    #26947293 - 09/21/20 07:00 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Super fucking excited for this update guys, looks like they're starting to mature! 🤩🤩



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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26947368 - 09/21/20 08:06 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Looking great man! They are super slow finicky bastards so great work getting here!


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26947409 - 09/21/20 08:40 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks man! They're definitely slow as helll the box has been fruiting for 3 weeks and still not a mature fruit in sight. But it looks like I'm getting close. I've got maybe .5g of dry aborts so far as well. I'm hoping I can try a test dose of about 20g fresh plus whatever dry aborts i have.


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26947422 - 09/21/20 08:48 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

20 grams fresh + aborts sounds like a fucking heavy dose to me but fill your boots. Maybe I’m a lightweight. But the zaps I grew were deadly, a dry gram was lots for most people.


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26947429 - 09/21/20 08:51 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Oh yeah it will definitely be a heavy dose, I want to get the full experience 👌

My regular dose now is 2-3g dry pans and I've eaten 4g before and had nothing but a wonderful time. I think it should be just right 🤞


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26947431 - 09/21/20 08:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like you are gonna enjoy yourself :rockon:


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26948461 - 09/21/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

This is awesome! Great work on this! Makes me want to get the lc I have onto agar all the quicker!


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Mycomills]
    #26949181 - 09/22/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks guys! I've been trying with this one for a loooong time and I'm super excited to finally see it fruiting 😁😁


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26953994 - 09/25/20 07:43 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Update for today! The caps are really starting to open up. Still no sign of spores yet though 😭



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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26954002 - 09/25/20 07:45 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It took mine a while to produce spores, only got a very faint print from the ones I tried to print.


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26954010 - 09/25/20 07:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I've seen most people say the same. If I can't get a decent print or two I'll definitely try swabbing a few.


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26954453 - 09/25/20 12:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting looking fruits. The caps look like a peeled orange to me haha.

Always cool to hear about the weird and wonderful, thank you for the effort.


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26954728 - 09/25/20 04:06 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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It took mine a while to produce spores, only got a very faint print from the ones I tried to print.




May be similar to what I've heard about semperviva, which don't start dropping until they are really, really
mature. And even then it is taking some folks around 48 hours to get a decent print...dropping water on the
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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Asura]
    #26955897 - 09/26/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

:shockhawk:
Very impressive! Well done :laugh:

I have been working on these of and on for 3 years and the best I have been able to manage is a 2" underdeveloped fruit.

My main problem(i think) is the fact that the humidity where I live is usually around 30% which basically means that fanning zaps aborts them. I am stuck between not providing enough FAE and providing too much dry FAE. Also, this doesn't take into account that a single ephemeral mote of mist landing on a zap will cause an abort, so all the extra spraying to keep the RH high is weaponized. I've tried most permutations of fruiting chamber/fruiting styles with similar results.

So, I have 2 questions for you:

1: What is the ambient humidity where you live?
2: What is your culture/strategy with fanning and misting?

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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: mycorry]
    #26957087 - 09/27/20 06:42 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I live in a coastal Tropical climate so my humidity is always very high outside. Pretty much always 85%+. Its a bit lower in my house though, maybe 50s/60s. The shoebox itself is actually kept in a shitty fruiting chamber I made, I've been meaning to remake it but it seems to work for these 🤷‍♂️ it's a 105qt sterilite with a 120mm fan on one side and a 4in polyfil hole and fogger input on the other. And 2in of wet perlite at the bottom. It doesn't really hold its humidity so the fogger just soaks everything. When I first noticed it the little shoeboxe had a bunch of standing water in it. I've taken it out and dumped the water buildup several times but it actually seems to love it. The pins literally come straight up through the wettest spots, even straight out of standing water. But there is a big clear rotting spot on the bottom so it most likely won't flush again 😭

Great news though guys! These fuckers are kicking out a decent spore load! I was running late and didn't snap pics, but lots of the caps are dark and covered in spores now. I took the biggest cluster and put the caps on foil last night and I can already see the prints under them without even taking the dome off! I don't think its gonna be too much of an issue to collect a decent amount of spores. I'll update with pics after work.


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26957320 - 09/27/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Ladies and gentlemen, mission accomplished! We have spore prints! And lots more caps to print.



I'm about to take a dose of 1g dry aborts and 10-15g fresh.


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    #26957325 - 09/27/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Beautiful man, amazing work :congrats:


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    #26957339 - 09/27/20 11:40 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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    #26957415 - 09/27/20 12:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Nice work!!
They can be a real nail biter for sure. You always feel like you're on a tightrope waiting for them to mature, and hoping they don't abort just before dropping spores.


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    #26957428 - 09/27/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

:sporedrop:
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Hope you cloned a few of them beauties and are enjoying the fruits of your labour
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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Zifozonke]
    #26957451 - 09/27/20 01:12 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

So awesome brother. :bow2:


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    #26960166 - 09/29/20 11:29 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Picked the last fruits yesterday and started printing all the caps.



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    #26960187 - 09/29/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Picked the last fruits yesterday and started printing all the caps.





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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: seand04]
    #26960634 - 09/29/20 04:10 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

just fuckin beautiful man, and i bet they are deadly potent, let us know how a journey with those guys go  :headbang:


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26960671 - 09/29/20 04:34 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Can you post more pics on FC I visual learner😅


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    #26962077 - 09/30/20 01:32 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

So I ended up taking 2.6g dry in capsules along with 5g fresh caps. The come up was very slow and relaxed, it took about 2 hrs until I felt like I was all the way there then it became very visual. I sat on my patio watching this mandala tapestry I have hanging blow in the wind for at least an hour. The peak seemed to last a very long time too. I dosed at about 12pm and finally had dinner for the come down at 8/9pm. Usually I'm ready to come down by 6/7. Overall it was incredibly beautiful, the slow come up was very euphoric and I had much less anxiety than I normally do from the super fast head change of pans. I've got another 5.6g dry so I plan on trying them out again sometime soon.

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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26962083 - 09/30/20 01:34 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

incredibly cool, great job!


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26962095 - 09/30/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like good stuff.

Was it similar to pans or was it a totally different experience?


Seeing all these rare mushrooms makes me want to do a couple runs just to have a stash around.


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: A.k.a]
    #26962660 - 09/30/20 07:14 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Damn, that sounds so good. Now that it's cooling down I am going to give these another
go. Thanks for leading the charge, man.

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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Asura]
    #26962844 - 09/30/20 08:46 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Hey man nice work. Amazing. What substrate did you use for these? I read through but maybe I missed it.


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
    #26963357 - 10/01/20 06:41 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks guys!

The substrate was coir/jungle mix/verm/straw/black kow/superfine alder chips with the bulk of it being coir. Probably like 50/10/10/10/10/10.

Also if anyone would like a swab shoot me a dm 👍


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26978322 - 10/10/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the swab!! I've only done cubes so far, and I have that down pretty ok. I've never used a fogger, or anything really besides passive mono's/shoeboxes. Time to do some reading!


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: NoChill]
    #26978425 - 10/10/20 11:59 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Wow I've been gone for a month and forgot about this. The fruits look great dude, nice work


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Hereigrow]
    #26978656 - 10/10/20 02:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Wow this was an awesome post to check out! Does anyone have any good links or recommend sources to read more on its historical and cultural uses?


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Re: Psilocybe Zapotecorum pinning finally! [Re: Radigast]
    #26995536 - 10/20/20 11:40 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks again guys! I'm super grateful to have been able to cultivate this beautiful psilocybe and experience its gift to us. I still have 5.6g dry I plan to experiment further with soon!

@Radigast theres actually very little info available about them. Heres the wiki for the species and a link to some info about the zapotec Indians and their use of it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_zapotecorum
https://psillow.com/species/psilocybe-zapotecorum/


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