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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
#26906956 - 08/30/20 12:11 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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it all depends how much of a pussy you are. youre not supposed to shoot people unless you're scared
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods] 1
#26906958 - 08/30/20 12:12 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Already posted a response to this elsewhere but Im gonna quote it here too
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Fucking terrible. Being maced is hardly a reason to shoot someone. Maybe self defense could be argued but duty to retreat was completely ignored and now another person is dead, undermining the efforts of protests against police injustice and solidifying the idea that we need to be treated like animals since we behave like animals.
2 wrongs dont make a right and the shooter's actions are atrociously condemnable.
These shootings are being made into partisan issues and it's sad that nobody can just condemn this shit.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
#26906960 - 08/30/20 12:13 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you believe its a real gun possibly
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: ballsalsa]
#26906968 - 08/30/20 12:16 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: This will be interesting. We’re about to hear how mace isn’t as threatening a plastic bag
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ballsalsa said: guy killed in portland turns out to be patriot prayer member shot while macing someone
how do you know he wasn't trying to make a flame thrower with compressed flammable propellent?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: ballsalsa]
#26906976 - 08/30/20 12:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: guy killed in portland turns out to be patriot prayer member shot while macing someone
I was just looking at the video but it’s been taken down
Looks like the guy who was shot got into an argument from the passenger seat of a car with someone on the on the street. The shooter was walking slowly away at a diagonal as the passenger got out of the car and walked towards the shooter. The shooter turned and there was a cloud of something at exactly the same time the gun shots occurred. It almost looked like the cloud was from the gun shot, but likely it was mace and he just happened to unload it at the same time the guy fired his gun.
Based on the timing the guy who got shot was likely raising the mace when the shooter decided to fire. There’s no way he was responding to being maced since the mace and gunshot were almost simultaneous.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MadMuncher]
#26906980 - 08/30/20 12:21 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods] 1
#26906991 - 08/30/20 12:25 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Senseless violence. Any news on who the shooter is or any group association?
Maga guy obviously didnt help by maceing a guy with a gun but guy with a gun had a duty to retreat and if he shot before even being maced then he didnt give 2 shits about that duty anyway.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: natedawgnow]
#26906996 - 08/30/20 12:28 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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He wasn’t shooting because he got maced. He shot because the guy raised his arm and was about to mace him.
It’s also pretty clear the shooter was walking away from the situation and the Patriot dude started walking towards him with mace in hand.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: natedawgnow]
#26907003 - 08/30/20 12:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Senseless violence. Any news on who the shooter is or any group association?
Maga guy obviously didnt help by maceing a guy with a gun but guy with a gun had a duty to retreat and if he shot before even being maced then he didnt give 2 shits about that duty anyway.
Unless he thought the guy was about to shoot him with a gun. The motion looks the same. But yeah. Run away. If it was a gun he would have been shot.
This is the whole stupidity of these self defense arguments. Two guys with a gun in a tense situation on a pubic street. Who gets to claim self defense? It’s ridiculous. People should not be going to protests with guns. Problem solved.
But we’re about to hear an amazing thing. vahn et all defending the right of a protester to shoot one of their own. I’m sure of it. Because they have principles.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
#26907008 - 08/30/20 12:43 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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troublemakers up to no good down there. there's shooting here all the time this will probably get blown out of proportion. its all distracting from the cause. good news stories to sell though: its not safe out there everything's on fire. bring your guns to town, son, don't leave your guns at home. smoke em if you got em: antifa murder nazi at deadly riot in portland
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MadMuncher]
#26907010 - 08/30/20 12:45 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The MAGA people were driving through the town paintballing and macing people from the beds of pickup trucks with their license plates covered.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
#26907017 - 08/30/20 12:57 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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too bad they shot him. fucking pussies they didnt have to do that. all 3 of them were up to no good. there's cameras all over right there they'll get more video eventually. looks like they murdered him to me. probably generic pieces of shit there's a lot of people taking advantage of the situation down there committing crime. maybe there's dead indians underneath that intersection bad things happen there.
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koods said: The MAGA people were driving through the town paintballing and macing people from the beds of pickup trucks with their license plates covered.
sounds like terrorism n. The use of violence or the threat of violence, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political goals. n. Resort to terrorizing methods as a means of coercion, or the state of fear and submission produced by the prevalence of such methods. n. The act of terrorizing, or state of being terrorized; a mode of government by terror or intimidation.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MadMuncher]
#26907041 - 08/30/20 02:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1299981166250926080 A: "Hey! Hey, we got one right here! We got a Trumper right here!" B: "Right here?"
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Azus] 1
#26907154 - 08/30/20 06:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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It’s amazing what happens if you’re told beforehand what to hear. It’s called priming and it’s a very powerful manipulation tool. It doesn’t really sound like that’s what he’s saying, tho.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
#26907279 - 08/30/20 08:59 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: Hey MODS... when did it become acceptable to incite and encourage murder on the shroomery? This guy fits the profile of a future mass shooter. He’s literally admitting what he’s saying is not legal, but saying it’s moral to kill people. Time to cut him loose, don’t you think? A lot of us are getting pretty sick of this over the top glorification of violence.
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Vahn421 said I'm making a moral case this time, not a legal one.
If you're stealing or breaking my shit and I have a gun, I'm gonna shoot you, so better not steal or break my shit.
I advocate anyone else to do the same.
Bullshit, Koods. I'm advocating self-defense of personal property. You don't have to like it.
I can tolerate you, it's too bad you're not capable of tolerating me.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
#26907281 - 08/30/20 09:00 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: If you catch someone breaking into your car and you kill them you’re a murderer.
He could have said “breaking into my house.” He didn’t. It seems he was deliberately taking about defending “things” with lethal force. I don’t think it’s legal anywhere in this country to kill someone for stealing or breaking “things,” but he has stated his belief that it’s acceptable on many occasions.
See the Facebook screen caps I posted above. The kind of rhetoric vahn engages in is reckless, and he is explicitly encouraging using lethal force which in most cases would amount to murder. I have no doubt social media and online message boards helped shape the kind of actions Kyle Rittenhouse thought would be legally justified, which resulted in two deaths and his own life ruined.
Koods always assumes the worst about me.
I didn't say kill, I said shoot. I NEVER said, "kill."
My goal is to stop you effectively, not take your life. If the bullet winds up someone lethal, not my problem. Think about not being a fucking thief next time.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26907288 - 08/30/20 09:05 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I didn't say kill, I said shoot. I NEVER said, "kill."
Holy fuck that’s most absurd attempted equivocation I’ve seen so far from you.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
#26907292 - 08/30/20 09:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Actually, where your bullet ends up after you shoot it is absolutely your problem.
If you dont understand that then maybe you shouldnt be allowed to own guns.
I own lots of guns and am a very responsible gun owner. It's pretty easy to look at something objectively and knkw it's wrong on its face while still advocating for 2A rights
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods] 1
#26907293 - 08/30/20 09:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I didn't say kill, I said shoot. I NEVER said, "kill."
Holy fuck that’s most absurd attempted equivocation I’ve seen so far from you.
It's not absurd at all. You're making it absurd because you're struggling really hard to find any way you make me look as bad as you possibly can and it's fucking despicable.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MadMuncher]
#26907296 - 08/30/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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MadMuncher said: troublemakers up to no good down there. there's shooting here all the time this will probably get blown out of proportion. its all distracting from the cause. good news stories to sell though: its not safe out there everything's on fire. bring your guns to town, son, don't leave your guns at home. smoke em if you got em: antifa murder nazi at deadly riot in portland
After looking at it again, it does appear a couple dudes might have been riding around looking for MAGA agitators. Who knows what their intention was but I’m guessing they were trying to provoke him into doing something to give them an excuse to shoot.
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