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Ways to limit the number of fruiting bodies
    #26905934 - 08/29/20 12:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hello!

I have a counter-intuitive need to severely limit the number of fruiting bodies my cake will produce.
So here's a question that I haven't found an answer to here on Shroomery or the internet in general. I would be most grateful for any leads.

How one can control the number of fruiting bodies that come from a mycelium cake?

Some background to this question
I live in a place where it is illegal to cultivate more than 15 fruiting bodies at once. And I want to understand how to grow some cubes while obeying the law.

There's murky legal waters in defining a fruiting body, but I guess 1 pin is counted towards 1 body.

I was thinking towards liming the volume of cakes or surface of the tubes.
Has anyone done this before? Are there guidelines or other avenues?


P.S. I was considering extracting psylocybin from mycelium cakes to bypass legality questions whatsoever but haven't found reliable information on psylocybin counts there. Some say that there is no psylocybin before pin formation.


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Re: Ways to limit the number of fruiting bodies [Re: counterpunch] * 1
    #26905939 - 08/29/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Pluck off #16 when it shows up. Also just don't tell anyone. It's illegal to grow even 1 fruit body for everyone else :shrug:


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Re: Ways to limit the number of fruiting bodies [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26905974 - 08/29/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

uh oh here comes the can i eat my substrate and brf cakes questions again lol😂😂😂😂


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Re: Ways to limit the number of fruiting bodies [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26905979 - 08/29/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yes. A very strange law and strange question lol.

I’d advise growing APE. They are very potent so you get more bang for your 15 fruits. Or grow regular PE which are also usually pretty potent and you could eventually grow monsters that weigh more than 15 average cubes each.

You couldn’t do this on cakes though, and not without some myco work. You’d probably have a little success with APE on cakes.

Or just like bod said, pluck off the smallest pins over #15 or be a rebel like the rest of us.

Get a presto 23qt, agar and dishes, tools, tubs and grow so many mushrooms la policia would go apoplectic and die if they found them.


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Re: Ways to limit the number of fruiting bodies [Re: Roger Clemency] * 1
    #26905988 - 08/29/20 12:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

im with bod just dont fuckin say nothing and dont be out dealing a bunch of mushrooms to every tom dick and harry and yould b just fine. with all tbe problems places have i highly doubt judges are signing search warrants for cops to come into ppls houses to count mushrooms🤷🏼🤷🏼 just dont beat ur wife or kids or get drunk and try lighting ur neighbors house on fire or any other multitude of retarded ass shit that could bring the fuzz to ur house in the first place. a lil common sense goes a long ways


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Re: Ways to limit the number of fruiting bodies [Re: counterpunch] * 1
    #26905996 - 08/29/20 01:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like a stone producer would be perfect for you. There is no need to fruit it at all. Just grow stones instead.


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Re: Ways to limit the number of fruiting bodies [Re: Kernale] * 1
    #26906179 - 08/29/20 02:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Lol is this a real thing? How does it work?

If you have two roommates could you pool your allowances and grow a tub with 45 mushrooms in it??


If this is real then what a dumb law. I’d prob run aa+ or a monster PE or ape clone, anything that puts out single fruits the size of a whole shoebox harvest occasionally.


I agree stone producers sounds like a good bet.


Or get in touch with the guy that has this culture putting out 400+g fruits.


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Re: Ways to limit the number of fruiting bodies [Re: A.k.a]
    #26906293 - 08/29/20 04:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If it was me, I would top fruit grain jars. You won't get a bunch but I've had some fatties. That way you can do PE or some variant and get the most bang for your buck. Super easy too! I've left them out on the kitchen counter and they fruited just fine with a zip lock over the top.


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Re: Ways to limit the number of fruiting bodies [Re: pureshrooming] * 1
    #26907209 - 08/30/20 07:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Oh wow, thank you, I wan't expecting such a great response!
This is a brave new world for me, and I'm glad to be sharing it with you

I'll definitely look into stone producers (looks like I should look up sclerotia); PE and APE.

Definitely plucking number 16 also :smile:
I understand that telling noone and not attracting police attention is a must, but I'm only human and I might tell someone, or attract attention. That's why I want to limit my risks.


Regarding the law, well, yeah, it's a strange one, but it gets even less coherent. After cultivation and harvesting other law comes into play, one about illegal posession, where the shrooms are measured by weight, not number of bodies. So as much as I like advice about monster shrooms, I'll refrain :smile:


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Re: Ways to limit the number of fruiting bodies [Re: counterpunch]
    #26907262 - 08/30/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Let's say I wanna play along and swallow that law even exists...:awesome:

If you want less fruits one thing you can do is limiting the fruiting area. So instead of birthing the cakes as cakes you limit the fruiting area by not taking the cake out of the jar and  "top-fruiting" it instead. The final yield should be similar but the fruits are going to be less and bigger, plus you can "bottom-water" a cake in a jar more easily for even fatter shrooms.

You can use the search engine to find out what the terms between quotes mean, in case you feel curious.


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Re: Ways to limit the number of fruiting bodies [Re: Josex]
    #26907291 - 08/30/20 09:06 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hey counterpunch welcome. These guys have all given you solid advice. I kind of expected someone(s) to raz you a bit more lol, but yeah:

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bodhisatta said:
Pluck off #16 when it shows up. Also just don't tell anyone. It's illegal to grow even 1 fruit body for everyone else :shrug:




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jcm4620 said: just dont beat ur wife or kids or get drunk and try lighting ur neighbors house on fire or any other multitude of retarded ass shit that could bring the fuzz to ur house in the first place. a lil common sense goes a long ways



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Sounds like a stone producer would be perfect for you.




WORD.


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Or get in touch with the guy that has this culture putting out 400+g fruits.





Those just look like some real late flush bangers, no cube mush culture just starts like that... Am I wrong there?

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If it was me, I would top fruit grain jars. You won't get a bunch but I've had some fatties... Super easy too!




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If you want less fruits one thing you can do is limiting the fruiting area. So instead of birthing the cakes as cakes you limit the fruiting area by not taking the cake out of the jar and  "top-fruiting" it instead. The final yield should be similar but the fruits are going to be less and bigger, plus you can "bottom-water" a cake in a jar more easily for even fatter shrooms.




Sounds solid as well for this purpose, but I come back to the first responses people gave you. Just be stealthy to a reasonable degree and grow some mother-lovin' mush my man! :wink:

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counterpunch said:So as much as I like advice about monster shrooms, I'll refrain :smile:




No need to worry there lol, gotta get a fair amount of mush grown to start getting big ole fat bangers like that broskie. :lol:

:goodluck:


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Re: Ways to limit the number of fruiting bodies [Re: Josex]
    #26907299 - 08/30/20 09:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I couldn't find a law like that for any country


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Re: Ways to limit the number of fruiting bodies [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26907506 - 08/30/20 10:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe it’s a test to prove to some suit that if given an inch we will take a marathon.


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