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COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) * 6
    #26907112 - 08/30/20 05:27 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

COVID-19 situation of August 30, 2020 when this PART 2 was started:




On Request, this is PART II of the COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic, the one that focusses on the latter months of 2020 and the first months of 2021, wherein especially duruing the flu/cold/pneumonia season of the northern hemisphere a Second Wave is anticipated, that doesn't start in Wuhan, China, but in every city of the world.

Please keep your posts ontopic and CHANGE YOUR VIEWS IF NEW EVIDENCE OVERTAKES THEM.

Though posted in The Pub this is NOT a social thread but a thread aimed at informing the general Shroomery membership of a serious health hazard in progress amidst a sea of deliberate misinformation, conflicting data and professional articles packed with lingo not really fathomable by the general public.

To do this effectively, this thread will actively stifle sources of misinformation or off-topic babble to present a clear narrative to the membership.

The old thread had 15,000 posts of which about 3,000, one in five, added contributions of substance. Please let us make this thread one high in information dense posts and not full of posts that are dense because the poster was high :wink:

THIS IS NOT A THREAD FOR POLITICS, CONSPIRACY THEORIES OR OFF TOPIC DISCUSSION.

ONLY ACTUAL MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND QUALIFIED RESEARCHERS MAY IDENTIFY AS SUCH.

Inquisitive posts are welcome but do your homework by studying this thread and, to an extent, the one before.

This thread is a STEP UP from a Pub thread but a STEP DOWN from a science forum thread. Still make abundant use of reference links to your source paterial, if available. Let's make this thread a crossroads of all major sources of correct information from all over the Internet. That benefits us all.

Posts of great merit from PART 1 may be grafted into this thread, but they most show the date they were posted originally. You need not be the original poster of this content.

Please be SENSIBLE, KIND, POLITE, FORTHCOMING and INTELLECTUALLY HONEST in your posting.


If you abuse this thread or are too disruptive for it you will get a VIEW DENY sanction that vanishes the thread from your topics list. This is irreversable, undisputable and has no other consequences such as ban points and no adverse note on your record is made of it to haunt you elsewhere. That is not severe censorship but the most gentle form of moderation.




The Original PART 1 of this thread (stickied January 27, 2020) of almost 15,000 posts, packed with valuable information is:
COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic






The gold standard of where COVID is at in the US and the world is:
COVID-19 Dashboard by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) at Johns Hopkins University (JHU)

The gold standard of current medical advice regarding COVID is:
World Health Organization CORONAVIRUS Page


A thread on What Foods To Get and the ins and outs of bugging in for lockdown:
What Foods To Go For In A COVID-19 Store Dash

1 month supplies recommendations & survival manuals download thread (Members Only):
PREPAREDNESS - Asante's 1 month home survivability minimum recommendation.






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MODERATION NOTICE:

One of the mission statements of the Shroomery is to stop the spread of dangerous misinformation. Initially this pertained to the substances we voluntarily put into our bodies, but COVID-19 is something that may involuntarily end up in the bodies of our members and their loved ones.

The media are a mess of propaganda and the Internet is a jungle which someone not versed in medical lingo and medical principles can easily get lost in.

Because some Shroomerites depend on this thread to help them make sense of the actual situation and what best to do - we will moderate this thread more strictly now and will issue post deny's to the more disruptive members.

Its OK to differ in opinion but we must ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION here.

The preferred moderating action will be a View Deny for repeat offenders.

The PART 1 of this very important and initially highly information dense thread was devolving into a dumpster fire, to the detriment of all who have a vested interest in this thread to be a collective voice of reason in making sense of what to do in these times.

Lets drop the offtopic, the conspiracy theories and the assigning of blame and focus on purifying our understanding, each by interacting with those voices in the discussion we have confidence in.

This thread may SHORTEN THE R.I.P THREAD OF 2021.

Let's NOT mess that up.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26907121 - 08/30/20 05:46 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)






This post is in honor of the Shroomerites, and Family and Friends of Shroomerites, who died of COVID-19 or its aftermath, either Directly or Indirectly, the ones we know of and the ones we will never know of.

They are engraved in our loving rememberance, and forever engraved into the fabric of the Universe, having emerged in it, to return to it.

Let us let go of our disagreements and remember the goodness of who they were, most of all.

We owe the Universe their acquaintance, or in the case of parents or grandparents our very existence, may we forever remember them, now and perhaps beyond death, if such exists.

Let us feel the grief to the fullest, so it pours out its emotional content into our awareness, and we can start our journey back to feeling better again.

Eternity knows their name - forever part of the Cosmic Mystery.

Lacrimosa - in memory of those no longer with us:





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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26907122 - 08/30/20 05:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26907123 - 08/30/20 05:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Licensed Medical Professionals of this thread

This post offers medical professionals who are active in this thread a chance to go "on the record" about which field of medicine they are active in. Its a kind of "Trusted Identifier" list of people who have received education and training to deal with medical situations, that leads to an educated opinion about the matter at hand. Please do NOT PM these people with medicval questions or bog them down otherwise as they will have their hands full mentally and physically. Trained nurses, pharmacists, ER, ICU and Covid Ward personnel, any trained professional, active or retired, can qualify by actively participating and sending Asante a PM stating they want in this list and, in short, their expertise.

Giving false information, so impersonating a medical professional, will be sanctioned was an Illegal Post, with a sitewide ban duration of 3 months or longer. We need to know our experts from our hobby researchers.




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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Asante]
    #26907157 - 08/30/20 06:51 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Morrowasted said 22/07/20:

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find out if your patients tried to self medicate before they ended up there and with what.


most of the people who are sick enough to be hospitalized aren't the type to engage in preventative health practices. so other than ibuprofen/tylenol/robitussin after they already feel sick, no. I take 30mg zinc/1000mg vitamin C/5000IU vitamin D. I also drink one of these bad boys every day


carrots, broccoli, bell peppers, celery, cherries, blueberries, grapes, pineapple, beet, banana, yogurt, canned black beans, tomatoes, protein powder... i mix it up a bit here and there, like if they happen to have cheap mangoes one week, but those are the staples.
does it help me not get covid? I dunno. doubt it. that's probably mostly the mask and handwashing and not hanging out with groups of people in close quarters. It'll probably help me stave off cancer and heart disease though


if you do develop a covid cough, robitussin probably isn't a good idea. won't do shit for the cough and arguably causes a mild increase in O2 demand by your tissues




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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26907160 - 08/30/20 06:55 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Dr John Campbell discusses the science behind the protective effect of supplemental Vitamin D3 (Cholecalciferol) in the 40% of white people who are Vit D deficient and the 80% of black people in the US who are Vit D deficient,

You need Vit D3 and about 5000 units of it a day.

Basically, a large number of the people who need hospital care because of COVID-19 have vitamin D deficiencies and, based on knowledge from other respiratory infections, people who supplement vitamin D3 (not D2) will tend to have a better outcome than those who's vitamin D falls short, and the darker your skin is or the less sunlight your skin receives, the less vitamin D your body makes and the more likely you are to be deficient.








Critical Care COVID-19 Management Protocol [MARIK]


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Asante]
    #26909071 - 08/31/20 04:57 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Psion said:
https://wpde.com/news/nation-world/cdc-94-of-covid-19-deaths-had-underlying-medical-conditions-08-30-2020

clearly trying to make it sound like the coronavirus isn't deadly here, that it's just another cold. "oh, these people didn't die of the virus, they died of other stuff! nothing to see here guys!"

=.= the CDC has really gone downhill ever since it's been pretty much taken over by the trump administration. case numbers reported immediately started going down immediately ever since they took over the tracking, pretty much to the very day - its now at about half the average from the day it was taken over. i dunno about you, but i don't think america has miraculously gotten good at quarantining and mask use, especially on the very day they took over the handling of the reporting of cases. maybe im just pessimistic. :rolleyes:

then there's the whole "no quarantining for 14 days after traveling" thing advice anymore from them. it's like they deliberately are trying to kill americans here. it's... terrifying really.




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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26909076 - 08/31/20 05:02 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yes Psion, the CDC is no longer among the links to reliable resources, their data has been politicized by the Trump administration.

8 offtopic responses were removed. a bad start.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Asante]
    #26910277 - 08/31/20 05:28 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

LOL

at every step they gave info that spread the virus at the most critical times

fuck the CDC

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26910279 - 08/31/20 05:29 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I dont blame foreigners for not understanding how evil our country is

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: cannabinated]
    #26910280 - 08/31/20 05:30 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

or maybe it was just the CDC who released it and the WHO spread it

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: cannabinated]
    #26910315 - 08/31/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

the cdc kills certain key employees before dumping them in a ditch and reporting missing


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Perusha_Kyuden]
    #26910322 - 08/31/20 05:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

CIADC

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: cannabinated] * 1
    #26910326 - 08/31/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

it has to be the CIA that did this tho

i bet we will find out in about 400 pages

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Perusha_Kyuden]
    #26910353 - 08/31/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

look man, the spartans used to kill babies in what is called infanticide. ok.



Covid 19 is not like cleaning the house thoe. unfortunately, people are convinced that because of science they have grasped any sort of understanding on what ever concerned topic for example.

Covid 19 is an immunity response to the industrialization of existence- born-pollutants just like me and you and our tool-like parents and all their fake pictures



The elites are fucking saddhus man, theyve got a nice pool, horny bitches, they smoke better pot than you listen, I WANT SOME FUCKING BLOOD AND I DONT CARE IF I HAVE TO KILL MY NEIGHBOUR MAN


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Perusha_Kyuden] * 2
    #26910368 - 08/31/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

CIA

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Perusha_Kyuden]
    #26910369 - 08/31/20 05:56 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

asshat

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: cannabinated] * 1
    #26910469 - 08/31/20 06:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Just spoke with my friend on a vent who had a pulmonary embolism following covid19 infection via facetime with the help of a staff member. He was so heavily sedated and sick that I doubt he knew I was talking to him but it was... nice isn't the right word... good to be able to at least say some things. Sucks that they couldn't be said in person.

BTW Asante you can put me on your "trained medical professionals" list. I'll shoot you a PM with proof.

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: cannabinated]
    #26910475 - 08/31/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

If I put on a k95 and it fogs up my glasses when I breath, does that mean theres a gap at the top?


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: gopher]
    #26910499 - 08/31/20 06:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It means the seal gets broken when you exhale for sure. when you're inhaling though the mask is likely to be pulled up against your skin so it still helps you. I'm guessing the force of the air moving out of the mask makes it extremely unlikely that anything will come in there when you are exhaling though. I would try to get a mask that loops behind your head though. This is the mask I wear at work which is now apparently available for purchase on amazon, it's a p100. the seal on this bad boy is ridiculous and it filters 99.97% of particles supposedly. you can detach the filters and scrub em with hand sanitizer to reuse. clean the body of the mask with soap and water though. dont spray lysol or any phenolic cleansers on there though, I made that mistake once

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: morrowasted]
    #26911072 - 09/01/20 12:24 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Most of the masks I see people wearing are the disposable pleated blue ones. I often notice when I sit behind someone on a bus, that there is a gap you could fit a pencil down that seems like it would act almost like an exhaust and direct any exhalation to anyone sitting behind them.

It'll be interesting,  but rather concerning, as it gets colder, to see people wearing these masks leaving twin vapour trails behind them as they walk.

My one doesn't have the metal strip at the top to pinch the nose.



As I don't shave I'm probably leaking like a sieve anyway, but at least it will help stop the larger droplets getting airbourne.


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    #26911118 - 09/01/20 01:59 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)



worry about your front door dumbass. you can try a vape pen to see how futile a mask is. are you waering a hazmat suit yet? :hahawot:


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    #26911126 - 09/01/20 02:22 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

whoops, looks like i caused a minor derail last night with my post before i went to bed. sorry about that, asante. :x i've just been so... dissapointed with my country, really. i grew up hearing about how great america was and now the blinders are off - now it feels like my country is pretty much just a blundering giant that only managed to reach it's status as a first world country through bullying and oppression, not through any true acomplishment, and now it's all that ugliness is starting to finally catch up.

just feels like half the countries poor, half of it's mad, and almost all of it's pretending everythings all not that bad, that everythings gonna be A-OK when the bloody country is crumbling toward open corruption. it's... depressing.

on a slightly more humorous note though, i did my laundry the other night - i found 3 quarters lying there for anyone to take for the coin operated machines. this, during the national coin shortage. (there's a national coin shortage, because people aren't using vending machines much right now, and the US mint doesn't deem it fit to mint more coins to ease the problem. it's been going on for months.)

they were all 2020 quarters! with the tails side facing up! all the adorable bats facing up looking at me! i had to laugh. apparently no one wanted them, even in this time when quarters are extremely difficult to obtain, because of the bats on them. i left them there just because they make me laugh every time i look at them and because i can get quarter rolls at my job as a cashier. they're still there, 3 days later lol. i personally suspect the US mint still hasn't minted any coins still because that would mean entire rolls of 2020 quarters with bats circulating everywhere, and the trump administration probably doesnt want that as part of their legacy, lol. (the bats really are quite cute though, and it's just a bad coincidence. they plan these images for the quarters out like a year and a half to two years ahead of time. just another trolling from the year 2020, i guess.)

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: morrowasted]
    #26911206 - 09/01/20 05:23 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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BTW Asante you can put me on your "trained medical professionals" list. I'll shoot you a PM with proof.





No proof needed, we just rip imposters a new one (100 days sitewide ban and up) upon discovery :sun:

Thank you for going on the record, but then again you always have :hug:


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Asante]
    #26911282 - 09/01/20 07:08 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Public health experts have reacted with alarm to remarks by the head of the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) that he might give the green light for a US Covid-19 vaccine before the normal clinical trial process had reached its conclusion.

As the US was on the verge of 6m coronavirus cases on Sunday, Stephen Hahn, the FDA commissioner, told the Financial Times in an interview published on Sunday that he was prepared to issue emergency use authorization for a Covid-19 vaccine before the end of Phase 3 human trials that put the drug through stringent testing for safety and efficacy.

He said the standard he would apply instead would be “that the benefit outweighs the risk in a public health emergency”.




https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/30/fda-covid-19-vaccine-fast-track?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other


We'll see how this one goes... my state already mandated flu vaccines for all students for the upcoming flu season so I'm guessing COVID will be the same if it's available. I'll be working at a rehab hospital in Jan so I'm sure I'll be getting poked with whatever hits the market either way.

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: feevers]
    #26911304 - 09/01/20 07:25 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

There is the possibility of the "cow pox method" of Pasteur..

There is a likeliness that infection with a common cold based on a coronavirus gives a degree of immunity to severe COVID. We might literally spread this harmless cold before a vaccin is available, as a harm reduction step.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Asante]
    #26911314 - 09/01/20 07:32 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I thought of that already, but where do you get a mild corona virus from


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    #26911330 - 09/01/20 07:42 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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There is the possibility of the "cow pox method" of Pasteur..

There is a likeliness that infection with a common cold based on a coronavirus gives a degree of immunity to severe COVID. We might literally spread this harmless cold before a vaccin is available, as a harm reduction step.




That's an aspect of the virus that makes the shutdown a bit of a double edged sword (though still 100% necessary). If other coronaviruses offer some immunity, but we're not exposing ourselves to them, it could be that we'll see a lower percentage of asymptomatic and higher percentage of more severe cases as the pandemic rolls on. I don't think there's much research yet into what other cv variations could offer immunity, or how long the antibodies and t-cell/immune responses from them would be useful for after infection.

I'd be happy with a vaccine that offers even partial immunity, but putting out any vaccine without proper phase III's... especially with the 'OK' authorization given from an agency run by an administration that prioritizes political gain over human lives... I don't really feel comfortable with that.

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    #26911350 - 09/01/20 07:53 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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I thought of that already, but where do you get a mild corona virus from





Something like 10% of the Common Cold viruses are coronaviruses. If one strain offered significant immunity and was next to harmless as common colds often are we might wilfully spread that strain to effect temporary immunity until we have the vaccine worked out.


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    #26911354 - 09/01/20 07:56 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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That's an aspect of the virus that makes the shutdown a bit of a double edged sword (though still 100% necessary).




I never had as many superficial mild respiratory illnesses than when I was fully buigged into a strict lockdown. I'm now wiser and will seek out the outdoors more, knowing that in the open outdoors away from people you both build immunity and are unlikely contract it.

Its places where people are packed into closed quarters that are the primary sources of infection. Taxis, buses, trains, planes, stores, public restrooms, churches, parliament...


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    #26911434 - 09/01/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Where I am there's basically nothing for covid. As far as I'm aware were having days with no reported cases and other times we will get like 1. I'm pretty rural though there's like 200k people stretched out over thousands of square km.

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    #26911441 - 09/01/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Most of the masks I see people wearing are the disposable pleated blue ones. I often notice when I sit behind someone on a bus, that there is a gap you could fit a pencil down that seems like it would act almost like an exhaust and direct any exhalation to anyone sitting behind them.

It'll be interesting,  but rather concerning, as it gets colder, to see people wearing these masks leaving twin vapour trails behind them as they walk.

My one doesn't have the metal strip at the top to pinch the nose.



As I don't shave I'm probably leaking like a sieve anyway, but at least it will help stop the larger droplets getting airbourne.








I like to try and blow out candles in my masks to sort of test them a bit. Haven't been able to in any of mine.

I ended up getting locked out of my place late at night a couple weeks ago and maintainence wouldn't just let me wait outside while they opened it, and gave me one of those blue surgical masks. Does not feel nearly as safe as the multi-layer reuseable ones I have.


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https://ppe.zunchlabs.com/

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    #26911696 - 09/01/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for sharing that is. N95s are easy to come by now for emts, nurses, docs. Where i am at they allow us to choose between n95 or half face masks with p100 filters and most of us opt for the latter. A few months ago the n95s were being literally gaurded, now theres cases of thousands of them in the supply closet. Idk how the regulations around who can buy them work but theae n95s... i would honestly prefer the public were using them now. I actually find that the huge "half facepiece" p100 is easier to breathe in than the n95s.. Also the niosh n95s seem to make a lot of people drool when used for extended periods. These facemasks dont really do that. I cant help but be cynical when I read the marketing claims on that site: " we just want to flatten the curve" :lolsy: hey, if they can make money and simultaneously keep people safer, i cant be mad about that

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    #26915080 - 09/03/20 07:39 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I thought it was just Trump talk, but now Fauci is saying probably a vaccine by the end of the year.


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    #26915082 - 09/03/20 07:41 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

The notion of pushing the vaccine out before it passes phase 3 trials sketches me out


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    #26915085 - 09/03/20 07:43 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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The notion of pushing the vaccine out before it passes phase 3 trials sketches me out




Same here, especially for those of us in the workplaces where it'll be mandated right when it becomes available.

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    #26915101 - 09/03/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yup. I’m 100% down with getting vaccinated if it’s proven safe & effective. Not down with being a guinea pig


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    #26916100 - 09/03/20 05:58 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Im gonna be fucking pissed if they try to force me to get vaccinated without finishing the clinical trials.


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    #26916165 - 09/03/20 06:27 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)


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    #26916677 - 09/04/20 01:10 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

its gunna kill a few ppl but whatevs

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    #26916763 - 09/04/20 04:13 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I really don’t think we’re gonna see any flu this fall. The flu has essentially stopped circulating around the world and all the restrictions, masks and social distancing work even better for the flu viruses. About a month ago they did something like 5000 flu tests in a week and only two were positive. Flu infections in the soutthen hemisphere never materialized either.


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    #26920570 - 09/06/20 07:08 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Im gonna be fucking pissed if they try to force me to get vaccinated without finishing the clinical trials.Livid




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^- the fate of those who join the enemy -^





The "enemy" being what? Those that work in the health professions that advocate the use of masks and social distancing?


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    #26920780 - 09/06/20 09:24 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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It means the seal gets broken when you exhale for sure. when you're inhaling though the mask is likely to be pulled up against your skin so it still helps you. I'm guessing the force of the air moving out of the mask makes it extremely unlikely that anything will come in there when you are exhaling though. I would try to get a mask that loops behind your head though. This is the mask I wear at work which is now apparently available for purchase on amazon, it's a p100. the seal on this bad boy is ridiculous and it filters 99.97% of particles supposedly. you can detach the filters and scrub em with hand sanitizer to reuse. clean the body of the mask with soap and water though. dont spray lysol or any phenolic cleansers on there though, I made that mistake once




Does this mask filter outgoing air? It doesn't appear to.

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Bikerfool]
    #26920974 - 09/06/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

CovCare has a bunch of n95's. I think the brands rotate, some are cdc or fda approved assuming they're not knock-offs of the brand.

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    #26921042 - 09/06/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

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It means the seal gets broken when you exhale for sure. when you're inhaling though the mask is likely to be pulled up against your skin so it still helps you. I'm guessing the force of the air moving out of the mask makes it extremely unlikely that anything will come in there when you are exhaling though. I would try to get a mask that loops behind your head though. This is the mask I wear at work which is now apparently available for purchase on amazon, it's a p100. the seal on this bad boy is ridiculous and it filters 99.97% of particles supposedly. you can detach the filters and scrub em with hand sanitizer to reuse. clean the body of the mask with soap and water though. dont spray lysol or any phenolic cleansers on there though, I made that mistake once




Does this mask filter outgoing air? It doesn't appear to.


nope :shrug: when on the job those of us that opt for the p100 throw an n95 over the exhalation valve. It is still much easier to breath in

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: morrowasted]
    #26922089 - 09/06/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Second wave was supposed to be right now. When that didn't happen, they started talking about next year, and everyone forgot.



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    #26922120 - 09/06/20 10:10 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

the number of daily new cases right now is just as high as it was during the peak of the "first wave", it is just spread out across the country

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Which is even worse, to add!


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Quote:

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It means the seal gets broken when you exhale for sure. when you're inhaling though the mask is likely to be pulled up against your skin so it still helps you. I'm guessing the force of the air moving out of the mask makes it extremely unlikely that anything will come in there when you are exhaling though. I would try to get a mask that loops behind your head though. [url=https://www.amazon.com/3M-Facepiece-Respirator-6291-Particulate/dp/B000FTEDMM/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=p100 mask&qid=1598921820&sr=8-3&ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1&ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1&ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1&ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1&ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1]This is the mask I wear at work which is now apparently available for purchase on amazon[/url], it's a p100. the seal on this bad boy is ridiculous and it filters 99.97% of particles supposedly. you can detach the filters and scrub em with hand sanitizer to reuse. clean the body of the mask with soap and water though. dont spray lysol or any phenolic cleansers on there though, I made that mistake once




Does this mask filter outgoing air? It doesn't appear to.


nope :shrug: when on the job those of us that opt for the p100 throw an n95 over the exhalation valve. It is still much easier to breath in




That's what I was thinking as well. I was going to get one for inoculations since the isopropyl vapors can get out of hand, I would just need to put a surgical mask over the discharge.

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    #26926654 - 09/09/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Attn all people who were accusing hospitals and doctors of raking in cash right now


https://www.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirusTX/comments/iplvg5/texas_physicians_are_losing_money_during_the/


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: morrowasted]
    #26926746 - 09/09/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

DUDE ONLY FUCKING HAMHEAD SAID THAT

now youre radicalized

focus on loving ppls

This is what i meant about anti vaxxers being created by the vaccine companies to confuse the legislature to use the public as guinea pigs cause its not profitable unless theres a pandemic

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    #26926758 - 09/09/20 05:06 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It’s not just hamhead. It’s the entire Qcumber army.


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    #26926788 - 09/09/20 05:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

theyre all the same person

CANCEL THEM

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    #26926831 - 09/09/20 05:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It wasnt even hamhead, it was mostly doc

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    #26926856 - 09/09/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

YOURE KILLING ME

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    #26928222 - 09/10/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

900k  and summer ends in 11 days

theres a new surge :smirk:

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    #26929244 - 09/11/20 12:42 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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I really don’t think we’re gonna see any flu this fall. The flu has essentially stopped circulating around the world and all the restrictions, masks and social distancing work even better for the flu viruses. About a month ago they did something like 5000 flu tests in a week and only two were positive. Flu infections in the soutthen hemisphere never materialized either.



Yeah I was just talking about this today with a colleague. I would have skipped the flu shot this year if I knew it just wasn't going to happen here in the antipodes.

There's a mixed blessing there. I dunno hey. Would rather we just had flu and no Rona about.


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    #26931388 - 09/12/20 08:48 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

someone set up a statewide tracker for schools here in texas

https://www.stopthespreadtx.school/

it's a self-reporting system so it's kinda shitty but whatever

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    #26931423 - 09/12/20 09:11 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

A friend at Boston College said one of the dorm rooms there had 8 COVID positives who were quarantining, but no one else on the floor knew. They had a fire drill, hundreds walking through the compact hallways funneled out one back door, with the COVID kids mixed in. Geniuses.

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    #26931466 - 09/12/20 09:37 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I never even thought of fire drills, the TDSB is putting a lot of emphasis on keeping cohorts separate and the news talking a lot of shit how the kids will mingle on buses, but nobody mentioned fire drills


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    #26932067 - 09/12/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Second wave was supposed to be right now. When that didn't happen, they started talking about next year, and everyone forgot.






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    #26935575 - 09/14/20 04:57 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

last thing I read was someone asking if you could propagate antibodies in agar and the simplest answer is not really. I’m not too familiar with the methods but I do know other organisms are needed to make antibodies that is why they are asking for plasma donations from asymptotic people. Theorized this in the original thread and its what they are doing now.

This also allows the method to be faced tracked for FDA approval as minimally manipulated tissue is not under the same guidelines as “drugs”. We made the same thing for cancer patients with stem cells for Novartis. Pretty crazy they using same idea for coronavirus but I’m sure it is effective. Would be a sweet patent to own.

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    #26935621 - 09/14/20 05:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I read today about a Dutchj doctor looking into resveratrol, the anti aging, weight loss super supplement, as a means to improve covid outcomes in the obese. It has a proven beneficial effect in MERS (Middle Eastern SARS), it lowers excess leptin in obese patients which is associated with poorer covid outcomes.

Morrowasted did you catch anything on resveratrol and COVID?

I happen to have 100gr of this in a jar awaiting manufacture of medicinal candies, since the stuff has a very short biological half life, so making it as a xylitol based candy seems a rational way to dose throughout the day :grin:




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    #26935653 - 09/14/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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it lowers excess leptin




thats interesting, usually people with metabolic syndrome have leptin resistance, lowering it could improve sensitivity, which could in turn make you feel more satiated when its released

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    #26935721 - 09/14/20 06:28 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah it is a promising therapeutic I’d use it if it came down to it. The right to try saved a bunch of lives which it should if your about to die you should be able to try something as long as you can’t blame the doctors or scientists.

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    #26935725 - 09/14/20 06:30 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I havent heard anything about usinf reseveratrol for covid, no. Im sure it cant hurt to eat some more grapes and berries though

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    #26936071 - 09/14/20 10:28 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Yeah it is a promising therapeutic I’d use it if it came down to it. The right to try saved a bunch of lives which it should if your about to die you should be able to try something as long as you can’t blame the doctors or scientists.



I’m not exactly sure what situations that law would apply to. FDA approved drugs can be prescribed for any condition and non FDA approved drugs aren’t regulated by the FDA


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    #26937008 - 09/15/20 12:52 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, January is the prediction.  I agree.  I research.  I am fine as done enough esoterics to know my body and it was strange feeling that at a cell level. 

It is man made and released.  Nukes stop wars but no one can blame a virus.  On with life.  Bored of this shit.

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    #26937033 - 09/15/20 01:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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    #26937136 - 09/15/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Doctors use to not be able to use in development drugs. if your dying a doctor prescribes you something it has to be FDA approved. If a doctor was using DMT to cure cancer thats a major lawsuit now patients can try promising drugs if they are dying. Its a pretty simple concept but you love to twist everything

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    #26937395 - 09/15/20 03:41 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

A doc wouldnt need to provide a script for reseveratrol, it is sold OTC at vitamin shops

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    #26937506 - 09/15/20 04:33 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thinking of something else then but if its otc its not prescribed. doctors dont prescribe nyquil or kratom. Thats purchased by the individual. doctors can only legally prescribe fda approved drugs but if ur dying u can try anything.

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    #26937551 - 09/15/20 04:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

The US just cracked 200,000 deaths


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    #26937719 - 09/15/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Thinking of something else then but if its otc its not prescribed. doctors dont prescribe nyquil or kratom. Thats purchased by the individual. doctors can only legally prescribe fda approved drugs but if ur dying u can try anything.



Doctors prescribe otc drugs all the time dude... if youre in an outpatient clinic they just tell you "go buy such and such a thing" but patients in the hospital get prescribed shit like tylenol, stool softeners,and ibuprofen constantly. Im not sure what drug you were talking about, i just assumed it was resveratrol from the context given that you didnt say what it was. Are you specifically talking about dmt? Only reason docs cant recommend or order it is bc it is schedule 1. A doc could theoretically recommend a patient take kratom but its unlikely given the lack of medical data about toxicity and interactions and the lack of consistent potency or regulations on production.

In your case when you landed in the hospital after seizing on kratom- if a doc had recommended it to you, and you could prove it, you would be able to sue that doctor for malpractice.

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    #26937737 - 09/15/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

They cant in Canada, Health Canada says Kratom is not for human consumption


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    #26937744 - 09/15/20 06:19 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Okay well i can only speak to practices in the usa

There probably are some fringe docs out there in this country who have done it for people with chronic pain. But like i said the overwhelming majority wouldnt risk making such a recommendation

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    #26937936 - 09/15/20 08:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

ehh not really those are fda approved. pharmacies arent handing out random chemicals.

tylenol. ibuprofen. etc have been proven safe decades ago. the new right to try law has to do with therapeutics in clinical stages.

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    #26938257 - 09/16/20 12:26 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

There are definitely psychiatrists right now who will recommend mushrooms to people with intense end of life anxiety. But no, you cant get mushrooms from the pharmacy. Im not exactly sure what point you are trying to make tbh

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    #26940601 - 09/17/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Hey remember when we all got free facemasks in the mail? No you don’t because the White House cancelled plans to do so as to not “cause a panic”



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    #26940669 - 09/17/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Nah, it's cool now, we've got the vaccine saving our asses.


oh wait...cept...


https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/cdc-head-mask-may-be-more-effective-than-any-vaccine/19289823/


it's totally not, and the fastest way to get the pandemic under control and the economy up and running is if everyone grew the fuck up for three months and thought about someone other than themselves.



Especially considering we're probably not going to have enough vaccine doses until 2024(according to the world's largest vaccine manufacturer), if people require more than one dose - and they've only been testing people on multiple doses, so I'd say that's probably pretty damn likely.


Fuck, I mean, we are likely to not even have enough to vaccinate 100 million.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/early-coronavirus-vaccine-supplies-likely-wont-be-enough-for-everyone-at-high-risk-11596706202
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    #26940705 - 09/17/20 01:19 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

If they can get a working vaccine for healthcare personnel alone it will make a big difference. Unfortunately I think doctors and nurses also play a major role in spreading this disease. It wont go away by any means but it would make a major dent


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    #26943413 - 09/19/20 01:01 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

12/9/2020 Anti mask protest. Madrid, Spain.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-53802226

19/9/2020 Parts of Madrid to lockdown amid virus spike.
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    #26945724 - 09/20/20 08:32 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Drove to the Canadian border yesterday, they wouldn't let us in :mad2:



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    #26945759 - 09/20/20 08:58 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I'm having a BBQ and pool party with 3 friends and my gf this week. PCR tests now come back in 24hrs, so we are all getting tested 2 days before so we can go swimming together without masks.

If you had ever asked me what my prediction for the future had been, I could not have dreamed this circumstance up.


In any case I am EXCITED! First time hanging out with my whole friend group at once since like February.

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    #26945916 - 09/20/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

fuck da rona, ur outside, theres chlorine


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    #26945966 - 09/20/20 10:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Is anybody here NOT using several thousand units of vitamin D3 a day?

Seriously now, get some vitamin D3 supplementation going, especially if you either get little sun exposure or have dark skin, both of which lowering the bodies vitamin D3 synthesis.

Don't get D2 get D3.

There is science behind your resistance to colds, flu and covid being stronger and you being less likely to get severe covid if your D3 is high.

Most ICU cases have low Vitamin D3.

All the other supplements, you got to see what you do but D3 is the numero uno.


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    #26945981 - 09/20/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

We refuse to improve our personal health, you must mask up and stay away from use for our safety, we will not be doing anything ourselves for our own safety, it is up to you to protect me, not myself.


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    #26945995 - 09/20/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Vitamin D seems to be promising for a lot of things but is far from any sort of magic bullet. Lots of athletes who spent all summer training outdoors are having heart issues and other problems from covid. My cousin who was hospitalised for a week and almost put in the ICU had her D levels checked afterwards and she was in the upper levels. My wife's uncle who died from it was outside 9 hours a day doing roofing and landscaping. Huge percentages of people in many prisons who get minimal sun exposure being asymptomatic... other than age and obesity the theory of recent exposure to a lesser cold coronavirus offering partial immunity seems to be likely one of the biggest factors in severity.

The vitamin D studies I've seen are mostly correlational... people in nursing homes, elderly, obese people who get hit the hardest are more likely to be deficient in vitamin D either way. Organ failure that often comes with severe covid may likely deplete vitamin D levels too.
The one study one vitamin D and ARDs that gets referenced a lot did horrible in peer review.

I take a 5000 IU tablet if I've gone a few days without sun, I'm not really holding out much hope for it to do much COVID wise though.

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    #26946025 - 09/20/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

70% of ppl dying without related health probs

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    #26946031 - 09/20/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Vitamin D seems to be promising for a lot of things but is far from any sort of magic bullet.




Its a wet powder musket bullet, but at the moment it's the only substantial bullet the average citizen has available.


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    #26946060 - 09/20/20 11:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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We refuse to improve our personal health, you must mask up and stay away from use for our safety, we will not be doing anything ourselves for our own safety, it is up to you to protect me, not myself.



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    #26947735 - 09/21/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I was at a bar yesterday and once you sit down you dont need to wear a mask and its not mandated and I forgot to put it on when I got up but I saw almost everyone doing the same.  first time out in a while and it was weird cuz I was super stoned. Ive been tested like 4 times all negative but I still think you should just wear it. I’d rather just hang out at a friends house don’t like being masked up everyone just looking around confused.

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    #26947749 - 09/21/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

fucc them they all deserve what they get :cookiemonster:

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    #26947815 - 09/21/20 01:33 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

30k short of a mil :nonono:

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    #26948882 - 09/22/20 07:21 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

How come the back death killed 75–200 million and now we all have computers buzzing around.

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    #26948900 - 09/22/20 07:43 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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How come the back death killed 75–200 million and now we all have computers buzzing around.





Are you kidding? I can't get over how the vikings pillaged much of northern europe and here I'm sitting over a hundred miles from the coast eating ice cream.


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    #26948977 - 09/22/20 09:02 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Global Cases: 30 million
Global Deaths: 1 million

Could we say, globally, about 3.3% mortality in observed cases?

Some less in developed nations, some more in underdeveloped nations but, just about?


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    #26950609 - 09/23/20 07:43 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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A druggable pocket in the SARS-CoV-2 Spike protein that could be used to stop the virus from infecting human cells has been discovered by an international team of scientists led by the University of Bristol. The researchers say their findings, published today in the journal Science, are a potential 'game changer' in defeating the current pandemic and add that small molecule anti-viral drugs developed to target the pocket they discovered could help eliminate COVID-19.



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If we look at HIV, after 30 years of research what worked in the end is a cocktail of small molecule anti-viral drugs that keeps the virus at bay. Our discovery of a druggable pocket within the SARS-CoV-2 Spike protein could lead to new anti-viral drugs to shut down and eliminate the virus before it entered human cells, stopping it firmly in its tracks."




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    #26950759 - 09/23/20 09:26 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

This new-ish data is showing that only 3 out of 10 of the chinese K95 masks actually meet the filtration levels they claim.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/09/22/covid-kn-95-masks-imported-china-dont-meet-standards-ecri/5806327002/

I definitely wouldn't rely on them if you're looking for protection.

NIOSH N95's are becoming a lot easier to get, but even with those it can be tough to 100% verify their authenticity. I got these, 10 for $45, the seal is great and the material seems legit so I'm just hoping they do the trick.

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    #26953843 - 09/25/20 04:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

No lukewarm measures!

Just got a note from my doctor: the flu shot for this year won't be given in the doctor's office but in the nearby church.

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    #26955736 - 09/26/20 08:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Please remember to plan your flu shot carefully; we may have a longer season.

I had covid in Mar and have been long hauling since. I'm 99% I just got reinfected but it didn't do anything this time around but clog me up and kill my smell a week. Almost killed me the first time around. World has gone crazy. Holy fuck.

We spent months distributing masks and food and hygiene supplies, probably north of $15k, and however many sleepless nights. And people cant wear one to go shopping. Jesus christ.

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    #26958236 - 09/28/20 02:05 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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    #26958246 - 09/28/20 02:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I still don’t know a single person who has gotten covid.


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    #26958257 - 09/28/20 03:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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    #26958273 - 09/28/20 03:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I still don’t know a single person who has gotten covid.





My aunt died of it.

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    #26958648 - 09/28/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

:uhoh: How is test availability there these days?

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    #26958818 - 09/28/20 01:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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    #26961161 - 09/29/20 10:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

1860s Germ Theory is not proof that viruses spread from person to person, or even that they exist outside of the body without deliberately being extracted.  Here in these cases, bodily fluid samples are extracted from influenza carriers and then exposed to healthy individuals.






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    #26961174 - 09/29/20 10:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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My aunt died of it.

I'm at the moment unsure if I might have it myself.




I'm sorry to hear that.  Really.  For yourself you shouldn't fret.  I mean it.  If you have been keeping up with the news, they haven't really mentioned Kary Mullis or RT-PCR at all.  After hearing much about this chemist (the creator of RT-PCR, he said in an interview that his test shouldn't be used to diagnose infectious disease? 

What he meant was, all other options shouldn't be ruled out just because a viral RNA strand was found in your body by a test that's only meant to expand and observe very small, more than microscopic RNA. As its said there are millions of these types in our body at any given time. Now, what health care workers are told to do:  Treat anyone with a chopped up covid diagnosis like a Chernobyl patient. When in reality,  they're perfectly healthy and normal.


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    #26961289 - 09/30/20 12:28 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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    #26961500 - 09/30/20 06:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know anyone new who has it but my friend in LA has still not fully recovered from it and he is in great shape, or he was, its been like several months of no working out for him because he still has numerous health issues after covid which almost killed him, twice. But he's not dead yet so thankfully virus deniers say he doesn't count. His quality of life is diminished though.


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    #26961537 - 09/30/20 07:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Dr John Campbell discusses more about vitamin D3 and COVID, as will as epidemologic science, and in doing so accidentally doxxes Dr Fauci:



But seriously, People you need to be on Vitamin D3 in the thousands of units per day.

Dr John Campbell takes 2000IU (50mcg) himself, Dr Fauci even 6000IU (150mcg).

I guess thats the target range for adults, especially in colder areas, with less sun exposure and darker skin.

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    #26961612 - 09/30/20 08:36 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Blood tests for vitamin D levels are usually pretty cheap or even free through your insurance if you come up with the right reason to have them done. Their isn't much research into long term supplementation above the daily tolerable (different than recommended) upper intake level of 4000 IU. Typically if you're deficient your doctor will have you load up on 50000/wk or so for a period of weeks, checking your blood levels periodically and bringing you down to a maintenance dose when your levels are good.

If people don't want to get their levels checked I'd at least make sure you're getting enough vitamin K (K2 specifically), as in theory it helps prevent arterial calcification, hypercalcemia or kidney stones/issues that can occur from raised calcium levels due to excess vitamin D. No one knows how much or how long these issues take to develop, and though they're likely rare from reasonable doses it's probably different for everyone, especially if you're not deficient in the first place. Vit D helps calcium absorption, but K2 helps make sure it's absorbed in the right places. K2 aids in blood clotting though, so taking too much also may have some risk when dealing with a virus that is known to lead to blood clots. Supplementation is rarely 1+1=2.

My routine for a while has been 20 minutes of sun per day, or supplement with 5000IU and 100mg K2 if I have 2 days in a week without getting sun. This keeps my levels around 40ish ng/ml.

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    #26961623 - 09/30/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I had a blood test and it came out that my vitamin D was so low the doctor called me to urge me to buy vitamin D and start taking it.

We have universal healthcare yes but no point in filling a $15 prescription for something thats $2 in every store, including supermarkets. Get your own vit D3 :P

As a reason he gave: "obese people usually have a deficiency. I'm sorry to say but you are quite obese so you have quite too little. No need to worry but you need a supplement."


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    #26961661 - 09/30/20 09:21 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I had a blood test and it came out that my vitamin D was so low the doctor called me to urge me to buy vitamin D and start taking it.

We have universal healthcare yes but no point in filling a $15 prescription for something thats $2 in every store, including supermarkets. Get your own vit D3 :P

As a reason he gave: "obese people usually have a deficiency. I'm sorry to say but you are quite obese so you have quite too little. No need to worry but you need a supplement."




Did he give you a dosage recommendation?

It sucks that there's not more research, some doctors don't believe in supplementation at all, others aren't even close to each other on the amount they recommend. That's why testing yourself every 6 months or so is ideal, to see if you need to increase/lower the dosage. Some people likely only need 800IU or so to maintain, while others might need 10k for awhile to get their levels right.

I somehow ended up on a chiropractors mailing list and he was spamming out emails telling people to take 25,000IU a day to prevent COVID. Conveniently he sold the "most bioavailable" brand on the market right out of his office

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    #26961918 - 09/30/20 12:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I wonder how much brand does really matter. I have the Rexall brand from the Dollar General down the road.

It does say D3, tho.


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    #26961938 - 09/30/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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accidentally doxxes Dr Fauci:



There was an article in the post about facui’s neighbors. I don’t think it’s a big secret where he lives.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2020/08/07/fauci-thank-you-signs/%3foutputType=amp

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    #26963262 - 10/01/20 04:13 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Quebec designates several areas as red zones and forces all bars closed and all eateries to be carry out / delivery only again for a month. Its impossible for these places to plan for anything, a few weeks ago it was changed to reduced hours. You can't just open and close like that, these places are bleeding money, one guy just bought a bunch of patio heaters because everyone was told patio season would be extended, now he's closed again. I think when the world every goes back to normal there won't be much left of nightlife. 

Maybe next time there is an anti mask rally maybe there will be some angry out of work locals to counter. Everything is not back to normal because of selfish idiots. People who had to have their giant weddings. People who saw everything closed as time for house parties. People knowing they are sick and walking around. This shit is never going to end because too many people are trash. Everywhere too, Canada, USA, UK, worldwide, trash.


And now the government is fighting it half assed, closing bars so it can seem like it's "doing something" meanwhile schools are open not based on risk, but because parents can't stay home to watch kids. Closing schools is politically very unpopular. But those places have always been virus incubators.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/restaurants-prepared-to-suffer-during-month-long-closure-1.5745506


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    #26963282 - 10/01/20 04:50 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Shit's getting real again throughout Holland in all age categories. More hospitalizations, strong increase of ICU admissions Positive rests went from 2.5% last week to 7.4% this week.


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    #26963364 - 10/01/20 06:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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And now the government is fighting it half assed, closing bars so it can seem like it's "doing something" meanwhile schools are open not based on risk, but because parents can't stay home to watch kids. Closing schools is politically very unpopular. But those places have always been virus incubators.





Same thing in Ontario, the premier goes on and on about partiers but the schools remain open.

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    #26964728 - 10/01/20 08:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Trumps aide Hope Hicks, who has been traveling with trump for the past few days on his trips was quarantined on Air Force one last night returning from Minnesota after showing signs of covid. She tested positive today. Reports are trump has been working in close contact with her. No masks. No social distancing. This seems like an extremely serious exposure.

Trump seems to be acknowledging the seriousness of the situation

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So whether we quarantine or whether we have it, I don't know, I'll get my test back either tonight or tomorrow morning but, you know I spend a lot of time with Hope and so does the 1st lady."




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    #26964766 - 10/01/20 08:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Trump just announced he’s going into quarantine


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    #26964990 - 10/01/20 11:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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    #26965093 - 10/02/20 12:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

:rotfl:  :cheer:  :haha:
I mean :sad:  :shrug:
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    #26965158 - 10/02/20 01:49 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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    #26965172 - 10/02/20 02:13 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

He'll probably get treatments we mere mortals can only dream of, like having repeated complete blood volume replacement with blood of people with COVID antibodies.

There is Hope though :sun:

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Given average Dutch medical care of detection & treatment, 10-20% that he buys the farm.

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    #26965232 - 10/02/20 03:42 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Tbh I’m not sure how much better his prospects are just because he will get the best care. There’s not much they can do if things go bad. He seems to be slightly symptomatic, so there’s like a 20-25% chance he’ll need to be hospitalized. Things don’t usually go downhill until the second week, so we won’t really have a good idea of how this might unfold for a bit


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    #26965651 - 10/02/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Also, he has lived a high-contact lifestyle for a while now. His immune system is probably no stranger to coronaviruses, which is believed to help fight Covid infections.


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    #26967077 - 10/03/20 07:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The latest EVMS Critical Care Covid-19 Management Protocol (including stuff you can do)

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    #26968074 - 10/03/20 06:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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    #26968077 - 10/03/20 06:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Wisconsin has a really high per capita new case count. Probably the highest of any state aside from Arizona during the entire pandemic.



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    #26968093 - 10/03/20 07:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Work is about to get busy again


Fml

Please stop acting a fool you guys

We are trying so hard

Mostly to help people who cant help themselves


Please


Help yourself so i dont have to help you. You dont want that. You may not know it. But please. You dont.

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    #26968110 - 10/03/20 07:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm hunkered down. I'm unemployed and plan to stay that way at least until march. This board, fb, my family and my roommate are about the only social activity I engage in.

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: morrowasted]
    #26968124 - 10/03/20 07:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks brother for doing what you're doing.
I got me a new defibrillator recently.

Covid has quieted  down at Holy Name hospital in Teaneck
and at HUMC in Hackensack, 2 of the original hot spots in
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    #26968516 - 10/04/20 04:02 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm curious what you guys think about the research showing that SARS-CoV-2 can infect and reproduce within T-cells, and the similarities with HIV's genetics, specificaply the gp120 and gag genes?


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    #26969512 - 10/04/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

^ could you link those studies?

The fact that he's on dexamethasone means they are feeling desperate. There's a fine line with dex since it suppresses the immune response and can do more harm than good if improperly administered. Data from a clinical trial of dex vs. standard care in hospitalized patients showed 23% mortality with dex vs. 26% without dex.

link to study: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2021436

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    #26969550 - 10/04/20 05:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

^this. Dex is used with caution and only when thought to be required. This has also been shown with Dex and other systemic infections as well. Dose of dex seems to define response but is difficult to dial in because of a tipping point.


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    #26969564 - 10/04/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Barr is now choosing to quarantine, despite initially refusing to do so.

https://politicalwire.com/2020/10/04/barr-in-quarantine/

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/03/politics/william-barr-coronavirus-quarantine/index.html

He says he's still testing negative, but I'd bet he's positive. He was inches from Kellyanne Conway's mouth at the rose garden. No way he's not positive.

I bet there have been more positive tests since saturday too that the white house is trying to hide.

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    #26969595 - 10/04/20 06:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The White House lie or hide things ??
Surely you jest.



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    #26969608 - 10/04/20 06:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

People seem to be exaggerating slightly how cautious docs are using steroids. A lot of patients get them. Yeah, it is the sicker ones, but you dont have to be like, on the verge of death to get steroids. They were being used to help people with pneumonia breathe long before covid existed. Steroids make people who are sick feel better. I wouldnt be surprised if trump just told them he wanted to give an address and asked if there was anything they could give him that might help liven up a bit and they gave him a dose. Idk just speculating. But i have seen a lot of people receive dexamethasone

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    #26969613 - 10/04/20 06:12 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It appears to be possible to be very exposed to the virus and never get it. This lady at my parents' church has been shedding virus for literally 4 months, according to tests, but her husband has been living there with her maskless the whole time and has never caught it from her.b

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    #26969670 - 10/04/20 06:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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People seem to be exaggerating slightly how cautious docs are using steroids. A lot of patients get them. Yeah, it is the sicker ones, but you dont have to be like, on the verge of death to get steroids. They were being used to help people with pneumonia breathe long before covid existed. Steroids make people who are sick feel better. I wouldnt be surprised if trump just told them he wanted to give an address and asked if there was anything they could give him that might help liven up a bit and they gave him a dose. Idk just speculating. But i have seen a lot of people receive dexamethasone




You don't have to be really sick to get dex, but dex does have the potential to make infections, in particular systemic infections worse. It is a delicate balance between attenuating cytokinemia and crashing the innate immune response. This has been studied extensively in large clinical trials and meta analyses. Any doctor worth his/her salt would never give a patient with a serious infection dex just to prop them up and make them feel better. That said, there are lots of doctors still giving corticosteroids routinely to patients that are apt to not benefit-- much the same way some docs will hand out antibiotics to patients that don't have a bacterial infection just to get them out of their office.


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    #26969713 - 10/04/20 07:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

^ Yeah, if Trump's doctors are dumb enough to risk dex treatment just so he can make these videos and photo ops,  then I'm not really sure how they got jobs at walter reed.

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    #26969743 - 10/04/20 07:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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It appears to be possible to be very exposed to the virus and never get it. This lady at my parents' church has been shedding virus for literally 4 months, according to tests, but her husband has been living there with her maskless the whole time and has never caught it from her.b




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    #26969745 - 10/04/20 07:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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^ Yeah, if Trump's doctors are dumb enough to risk dex treatment just so he can make these videos and photo ops,  then I'm not really sure how they got jobs at walter reed.




They’re not just doctors. They are in the military. And Trump is the commander in Chief.


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    #26969747 - 10/04/20 07:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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People seem to be exaggerating slightly how cautious docs are using steroids. A lot of patients get them. Yeah, it is the sicker ones, but you dont have to be like, on the verge of death to get steroids. They were being used to help people with pneumonia breathe long before covid existed. Steroids make people who are sick feel better. I wouldnt be surprised if trump just told them he wanted to give an address and asked if there was anything they could give him that might help liven up a bit and they gave him a dose. Idk just speculating. But i have seen a lot of people receive dexamethasone




You don't have to be really sick to get dex, but dex does have the potential to make infections, in particular systemic infections worse. It is a delicate balance between attenuating cytokinemia and crashing the innate immune response. This has been studied extensively in large clinical trials and meta analyses. Any doctor worth his/her salt would never give a patient with a serious infection dex just to prop them up and make them feel better. That said, there are lots of doctors still giving corticosteroids routinely to patients that are apt to not benefit-- much the same way some docs will hand out antibiotics to patients that don't have a bacterial infection just to get them out of their office.




I just saw the stat somewhere.

Patients who didn’t require oxygen therapy when dex was initiated have a 17% mortality compared to 13% with no dex


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    #26969752 - 10/04/20 07:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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^ Yeah, if Trump's doctors are dumb enough to risk dex treatment just so he can make these videos and photo ops,  then I'm not really sure how they got jobs at walter reed.




They’re not just doctors. They are in the military. And Trump is the commander in Chief.




True. Let's hope they let Trump dictate the course of his treatment.

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    #26969794 - 10/04/20 08:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If trump were really calling the shots he’d be on hydroxychloroquin


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    #26969801 - 10/04/20 08:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Not a chance, that is for the peasants! He's got access to the top-shelf shit that no one else can get.


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    #26969899 - 10/04/20 10:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I just saw the stat somewhere.

Patients who didn’t require oxygen therapy when dex was initiated have a 17% mortality compared to 13% with no dex



I think they're lying their assess off about him not being on oxygen.

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    #26969909 - 10/04/20 10:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

His literally on Camera being full of energy. He just drove around waving at his supporters.


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    #26969924 - 10/04/20 10:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

He was riding around in a hermetically sealed vehicle potentially infecting two secret service agents through his cloth mask. Then he went straight back to walter reed to continue receiving remdesivir, dexamethasone, and possibly more oxygen.

The ironic thing is those trumpers will vote for him regardless, so the drive by does nothing to secure their vote. It only helps alienate any remaining people who were still on the fence.

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    #26970020 - 10/05/20 12:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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^ Yeah, if Trump's doctors are dumb enough to risk dex treatment just so he can make these videos and photo ops,  then I'm not really sure how they got jobs at walter reed.




They’re not just doctors. They are in the military. And Trump is the commander in Chief.





Army doctors.. field expedient medicine where the success of the mission takes precedence over the patient's best interest.

They could have propped him up with modafinil Go Pills.


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    #26970101 - 10/05/20 03:36 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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His literally on Camera being full of energy. He just drove around waving at his supporters.




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    #26971524 - 10/06/20 02:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Just got tested for COVID at a drive-thru COVID test station.

Stop 1: ID check.

Stop 2: long q-tip in the back of the throat and the back of the nostril.

Getting tested is a breeze, now the outcome...

I sweat so much at the slightest strain, needing very much breath and breaks like an old man. Occasional headaches, constant throat ache, constricted lungs, diarroea and a runny nose...

Your average flu it ain't.


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    #26971628 - 10/06/20 06:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Shit dude, that sucks.

How long has this been going on?


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Asante]
    #26971633 - 10/06/20 06:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Do you have loss of taste/smell?

I've twice now since January had an illness that has all symptoms other than that one, and without trying to move mountains, I haven't been able to find a place that'll test me.


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    #26971671 - 10/06/20 07:43 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Shit dude, that sucks.

How long has this been going on?





Fortunately, almost 2 weeks. I'm using the Marik COVID-19 Protocol since as long as its available, 6 months or so, taking all the non-Rx supplements in correct doses (exception: 5000iu D3 and 2x 1000mg Vit C, I'm a big boy)

The ICU's the world over are packed with the obese but many obese dont need the hospital.

I think that I might have a moderate case that wont require a hospital, and at the moment theres hospital beds ICU spots and ventilator options where I live.

I'm near the tipping point where it either improves or worsens and I doný particularly feel VERY ill. Ill yes but not VERY.

I'm hoping for making it without hospital but I'm fully willing to commit to hospitalization or even death if that's what's for dinner.

I'm gonna do this or its gonna do me, and by "this"I might just mean October.

If this is Covid, I'll likely be either immune or dead in november.

I'll do anything in my power to stay alive this month.


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    #26971678 - 10/06/20 07:54 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

When do you get the results?


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    #26971682 - 10/06/20 07:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Within 48 hours. I expect they will call me as I exprect to have tested positive, in which case they want to do contact research. I'll pre-empt that by making a list of where I've been the past 2 weeks.


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    #26971687 - 10/06/20 07:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Did you miss my question about sense of taste/smell?

I'm very curious about this.

I know you'll make it through BTW. My gut says this is not your time.


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    #26971696 - 10/06/20 08:06 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I know you were already quarantining pretty hard. Any idea how you could have been exposed?


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    #26971727 - 10/06/20 08:36 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Did you miss my question about sense of taste/smell?





I missed it, and no, I have no loss of either faculty. I do have a tendency to tinnitus though, now with the COVID.

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I know you'll make it through BTW. My gut says this is not your time.




My Spirit Guide says "This is not the decade in which you will die." Let's hope he means it, ots gonna be one heck of a decade.



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    #26971734 - 10/06/20 08:46 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Asante maybe look up breathing exercises, I seen a video at the start of covid where some really old guy caught it on a cruise, and in the hospital they told him that if his oxygen drops any lower they were going to vent him, he worked in a hospital before and he said most people put on vents dont pull through, so this scared him, so he started doing some breathing exercise he knew all day and his oxygen went up and he didnt need to be vented, he said the name of the exercise and where to find instructions online but that was months ago I seen the video and I dont remember what it was


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    #26971744 - 10/06/20 08:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Shit. I go to the grocery an/or dollar store probably 4-5 times a week.

Also, my parents are old and super religious, and my dad has Parkinson's. Last Sunday their church started their usual services (twice on Sundays) They insist on going, and I can't let them go alone. My dad can barely walk. About a third of them were'nt wearing a mask. We sit over in the wing to minimize contact, but it's a small building with about 100 people in it singing their stupid little hearts out and aerosolizing any viruses they might have everywhere. I keep my mask on through the entire service, but my parents take theirs off.

Makes me wonder how many lives I would save by burning the place down, except they would just find another, larger church to crowd into.

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    #26971748 - 10/06/20 08:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Asante maybe look up breathing exercises, I seen a video at the start of covid where some really old guy caught it on a cruise, and in the hospital they told him that if his oxygen drops any lower they were going to vent him, he worked in a hospital before and he said most people put on vents dont pull through, so this scared him, so he started doing some breathing exercise he knew all day and his oxygen went up and he didnt need to be vented, he said the name of the exercise and where to find instructions online but that was months ago I seen the video and I dont remember what it was





Tey gave my dad one of these when he was in the hospital last year. It's a breathing exercize machine. It's supposed to decrease your chances of getting Pneumonia.

https://www.carewell.com/airlife-spirometer/?sku=001901A-EA1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0Nv15Jyg7AIVB4TICh1jwQPPEAQYAiABEgK3pfD_BwE


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    #26972146 - 10/06/20 12:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

we use them all the time

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    #26972505 - 10/06/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

DC had a 7 day average of 38 new cases a day, but thanks to Donald Trump and the White House there were 105 new cases today. The White House is likely the number one source of community spread in DC for the entire pandemic so far.


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    #26972711 - 10/06/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

When discussing Trump having Covid, my brother said: "I don't think COVID will kill its biggest super spreader."


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    #26972975 - 10/06/20 09:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm totally fucking stealing that.  :laugh2:


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    #26973089 - 10/07/20 12:46 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

asante, the zinc is in the form of lozenges, right? around 22ish mg per lozenge? it's better taken in that form, like in Zicam - just suck on the nasty thing (no crunching, no cheating!) and don't swallow anything, even water, for 15 minutes afterward, to allow the zinc ions to coat your throat area.

repeat every few hours for best results. those things really do work miracles, but the entire point is not as a mere pill - you're basically coating your throat with the ions to kill the lil microbial buggers and reducing the viral load directly that way.

they do taste a bit awful sometimes, and gritty, and you do want to just chew the things and get it over with, but endure! they really do reduce the severity of symptoms and duration of colds and flues by a noticeable amount. i've had my typical week and a half colds go down to about 3-4 days of mild symptoms with those things, instead of the usual misery i always get.

they are by far the first thing i always buy first now for sickness, even before cold medicine, because they're just so damn noticeably effective, especially after a day or so. just be sure not to take that much zinc for more than several days in a row if possible - it's not a preventative measure. taking that much zinc for prolonged periods of time can lead to copper deficiency eventually, though several days is fine - just don't make it your new daily habit. ;p

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    #26973673 - 10/07/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Well well well!

I had my COVID Test Results a day earlier than anticipated.

Covid test: Negative.

The physician explained that especially now, people are gripped by flu way stronger than ordinarily because they have been indoors so much and therefore their resistance to infections decreased. He compelled me to GET MY FLU SHOT since I had had such a severe reaction to a common respiratory infection and to GET OUT MORE to build resistance.


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    #26973701 - 10/07/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Well well well!

I had my COVID Test Results a day earlier than anticipated.

Covid test: Negative.

The physician explained that especially now, people are gripped by flu way stronger than ordinarily because they have been indoors so much and therefore their resistance to infections decreased. He compelled me to GET MY FLU SHOT since I had had such a severe reaction to a common respiratory infection and to GET OUT MORE to build resistance.


tl;dr - Asante is Covid-free.




Huh, kinda good news/bad news. You're loading up on supplements that should bolster you against respiratory infections and some peewee league bug got you down. Not a good sign.


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    #26973721 - 10/07/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Exactly my thought!


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    #26973784 - 10/07/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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we use them all the time



I just add that the spirometer doesnt really reduce the risk of pneumonia. It just encourages people to take deep breaths by "making it into a game." You can do deep breathing without one though.

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    #26973837 - 10/07/20 01:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Doesn't it help you inhale at the optimum rate, though?

Or something?


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    #26973850 - 10/07/20 01:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Exactly my thought!




So your doc wants you to GET OUT MORE and... what exactly? Expose yourself to... what exactly?

Not humans, obviously. Pigs and ducks and chickens have been found not to be infected by SARS-CoV-2. I guess you could play with them. Get your germs that way.


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    #26973866 - 10/07/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Doesn't it help you inhale at the optimum rate, though?

Or something?



I mean, sure, im just saying it is possible to do slow, controlled, deep breathing without one and achieve the same effect. Its called an incentive spirometer because it incentives people to take really deep breaths by letting them know just how deeply they are breathing

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    #26973872 - 10/07/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Also, it looks like a monkey. or, at least my dad thought it was a monkey. He was hallucinating pretty hard.

It does kinda look like a monkey, tho.


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    #26973964 - 10/07/20 02:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The pediatric ones are super cute



We make it into a game for them, like "try to reach the house this time!!" It really does help.  Especially for the very young and very old. You can watch peoples sat climb in moments.

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    #26974024 - 10/07/20 03:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

:sokawaii:

You said it doesn't prevent pneumonia. That's exactly what they told us it was for. Apparently it's something that happens to people if they are in a hospital bed for a long time. He was there for about a month for something non-lung related.


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    #26974071 - 10/07/20 03:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Its misleading to make people think it will help them not get pneumonia of they are healthy. What it does is, for people at an increased risk of pneumonia due to shallow breathing for whatever reason, it helps reduce that increased risk

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    #26974143 - 10/07/20 04:42 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Do you own a pulse oximeter? I bought one ($30) back in early March
when it was said low O2 levels could be a sign of Covid
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    #26974151 - 10/07/20 04:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I have a pulse oximeter thats faitly accurate.

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    #26974547 - 10/07/20 09:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I cannot believe this reporter didn’t question Guiliani about the fact that he couldn’t stop coughing. Seems relevant and newsworthy considering the nature of his exposure to the virus



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    #26977349 - 10/09/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yesterday Wisconsin reported the highest number of per capita new cases for any state OR country ever. What a fucking embarrassment seven months into this


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    #26977420 - 10/09/20 06:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Has anyone been able to connect those numbers to the mostly peaceful riots they've been having?

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    #26977434 - 10/09/20 06:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

But he didn't die so it doesn't count - VD

Tool / A Perfect Circle / Puscifer frontman Maynard James Keenan has revealed in a new interview that he recently contracted COVID-19. Though he beat the disease, the singer is still “dealing with the residual side effects,” including lung damage.
Keenan got COVID-19 in late February, before the pandemic was officially declared. “I kind of didn't want to run around screaming it. But it's real. And there's after-effects,” Keenan shared with AZ Central. “I had to go through some major medications to undo the residual effects. Still coughing. There's still lung damage.”

When asked if he’s currently feeling alright, Keenan answered, “Well no. I still have the cough. Every other day, I have these coughing fits because my lungs are still damaged at the tips. And I just got over the inflammation that was going on with my wrist and hands. I had an autoimmune attack on my system in the form of, like, a rheumatoid arthritis. Basically, from what I understand, it attacks weird spots and it's random. So that's what I got. That was my prize.”



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    #26977854 - 10/10/20 01:41 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Yesterday Wisconsin reported the highest number of per capita new cases for any state OR country ever. What a fucking embarrassment seven months into this




Supposedly one of the 3 hospitals in the Green Bay area ended up having a bunch of workers get sick.

Beyond tragic Healthcare workers are dying and putting their lives at risk while a solid percentage of adults refuse to wear a mask.  It's like a bad sci fi movie or something.  But instead just real life.


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    #26978129 - 10/10/20 08:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Has anyone been able to connect those numbers to the mostly peaceful riots they've been having?



3000 cases in one day. How many participants in those riots? 200?


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    #26982204 - 10/12/20 07:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

What do you think about the implications of that research? We might be seeing essentially HIV-lite built into an airborne SARS virus, with outbreaks on the brink of exponentially exploding worldwide


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    #26983027 - 10/13/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, I don't know what to think.... :shrug:

I'm interested in finding solutions for ANY health threat, preferably sourced from nature.
So I just feel reassured that adding medicinal mushrooms to our diet was
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I don't wanna spend to much energy trying to figure out the origin or the intent
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For me, conspiracy theories about the origin of this  (or any other viruses)
are kind of silly. First of all, figuring out those things won't help squat
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    #26983079 - 10/13/20 09:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

In regards to it being an intentional creation, it seems prudent to me to ask 'if that's the case, were all the previous pandemics created by a time travelling cabal with the same intention?'


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    #26983327 - 10/13/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

To me it doesn't matter how it came about, what matters is that there's an airborne virus with the genes for HIV's gp120 and gag motifs, the genes that allow it to respectively invade and reproduce within T-cells... meanwhile society at large is treating it as not much worse than the flu.

In the early years of the HIV epidemic, people weren't dropping like flies either. It wasn't until people had a chance to carry the infection for a few years that it became a leading cause of death. Covid is already the third leading cause of death and there probably isn't a single person that's been infected for more than a year... just saying


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    #26983395 - 10/13/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Gotcha! Good point.

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    #26988621 - 10/16/20 02:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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New paper says even remdesivir doesnt do much

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/10/15/health/coronavirus-remdesivir-who.amp.html




But so what IS helping then? Or am I misreading the charts? To me, it seems like that now less people are dying than in the spring even tho the number of infections are much higher than in the spring. Did the virus mutate to be less lethal? Did the hospitals figure something out? What's going on?

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    #26988825 - 10/16/20 04:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I think the there were more deadly strains spreading last spring than what we are seeing now

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    #26988893 - 10/16/20 05:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah I think the there were more deadly strains spreading last spring than what we are seeing now





It could be this, although analysis of mutations within various communities should be able to address this hypothesis. I'm not sure if there has been anything published to support this?

The sense that I am getting is that Best Practice for treating people critically ill with Covid has rapidly evolved since the virus was first identified. A common paradigm in treating lung injury is to treat early and aggressively with lung sparing, low tidal volume ventilator support. It seems that the broad applicability of such an approach for Covid yields less benefit than typical, and may indeed be harmful in some cases. Supplemental oxygen, when possible with nasal canula or mask in combination with dexamethasone to treat underlying inflammation has been adopted more recently. I think that there has also been greater appreciation for the urgency in treating virus-driven disseminated intravascular coagulopathy as well.


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    #26988906 - 10/16/20 05:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah I think the there were more deadly strains spreading last spring than what we are seeing now




I think the first wave the virus was infecting the entire demographic because it snuck up on us. Now people who are more at risk are taking measures to keep themselves safe, while those who don’t perceive a risk are not.

I hate to make this political but, while young people are generally being irresponsible throughout the country, the more vulnerable are being more or less responsible based on their political belief that motivate whether they take the virus seriously or not. Despite having a steady stream of new cases, people have essentially stopped dying of covid in democratic strongholds. I’d like to see political data on covid fatalities. I bet theres a hugely disproportionate number of anti-mask trump supporters.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
    #26989107 - 10/16/20 08:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I got a flu shot.


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    #26989169 - 10/16/20 08:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I got a covid test yesterday


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    #26989315 - 10/16/20 11:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I got a flu shot AND a covid test. The covoid test was negative but I don't believe it. Weeks after being sick I'm still winded, there's a tendency for my breath to squeak, there are obviously after effects not common in usual flu and colds.


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    #26989385 - 10/17/20 12:45 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

you know, asante... i got a nasty cold thing sort of like that in February. with zinc lozenges, the side effects weren't so bad after the first day, with the worst being extreme fatigue, but the after effects lingered for months. every night in particular, i would start to get the cold showing up again a bit. not much, just a few coughs here and there, mainly when bending over or the like or exerting too much, or lying down.

eventually saw the doc and he gave me an inhalator to try and help strengthen the lung passageways, but it didn't really relieve it much at all over the course of two months. ironically, i got my top two wisdom teeth removed about a month and a half ago, and got prescribed antibiotics for it. followed the course of them, and noticed after about 4-5 days my cough was gone completely.

i wonder if it was a bacterial infection of some sort in the lungs i had now, either secondary, or some nasty strain of cold thats going around, not covid-19 i got back then.

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    #26989388 - 10/17/20 12:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

What kind of test? The rapid ones give a lot of false negatives.

It’s doubtful you have the flu. Flu transmission has essentially been shut down across the world and its prevalence is at historic lows.



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    #26989678 - 10/17/20 07:26 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I also got my flu shot last week


Stillllll no covid. Its almost like you can actually prevent yourself from getting it by following certain rules :strokebeard:

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    #26989686 - 10/17/20 07:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I got a haircut. My hair hasn't been this short since I was a baby.


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    #26989696 - 10/17/20 07:51 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

How do you know that?


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    #26989739 - 10/17/20 08:41 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

:uhno:

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    #26989772 - 10/17/20 09:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The weeks following the holidays this year will be endless headlines reading "He thought the virus was a hoax and hoasted a large thanksgiving dinner, grandma got infected and died, now he urges others to wear a mask."

Everyone I know is planning get togethers like there's nothing going on, the "covid fatigue" mixed with close gatherings of people from different states is gonna be a clusterfuck.

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    #26992561 - 10/19/20 09:21 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Some of my thoughts on the corona situation..

Well.. 1 thing for sure.. I feel like the media are not nearly giving enough attention on how much influence you have on your own health, that you have a lot of influence on your immune system with your lifestyle habits.

I saw what Wim Hof said about these things, I think it's pretty cool.

Of course am not saying that if you're living healthy, you would never ever get any diseases, but I feel like in the media they pay way too little attention to lifestyles...

Now with the pandemic.. when I learn about the previous viruses during recent years.. the mad cows disease, swine flu, bird flu, sars, ebola.. it's all linked to animals.

And now the covid.. which came from animal markets in China they say.. from a bat..

I actually feel like... if there would be a vaccine or the corona virus would magically disappear.. there would arise new virusses.. if the way animals are treated hasn't changed.

This whole industry doesn't look healthy, normal, or natural at all.

It's like.. we make animals sick with this modern industry, and then we make ourselves sick by eating their sick bodies (there are no viruses in melons or mango's).

Maybe if an animal has a natural life (like a wild deer who has lived freely and natural his whole life).. that would maybe be not as bad, but I'd still go with vegan (also cause I have experienced so much benefit from it).

This whole industry is just completely ridiculous if you ask me and it's a breeding ground of diseases.

Facemasks.. lockdown and all this, doesn't cure the root cause of these viruses imo.. everything just get's more unnatural and robotic that way it seems..

In my experience veganism is a great solution for improving vitality & health. 

Just sharing my 2cts :smile:

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    #26992676 - 10/19/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Stillllll no covid. Its almost like you can actually prevent yourself from getting it by following certain rules :strokebeard:




lol yeah

here is the updated treatment protocol from the Eastern Virginia Medical School

nothing groundbreaking, but very interesting info in there.

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    #26992760 - 10/19/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Who else disappointed by this pathetic virus? Back at March I thought it's going to kill so many people. In reality it was slighly more severe than flu. Now it has mutated it's even less severe than flu. Why do we still have restrictions?
My theory is that the governments cannot just admit that they were wrong.

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    #26992766 - 10/19/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Disappointed???

I feel a great many emotions over this thing. Disappointment that it is not more severe than initially suspected is definitely not one of them.

Pretty cruel thought, IMO.


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    #26995056 - 10/20/20 05:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Don't jump the gun. I won't be surprised if there's an absolutely massive death toll 1-10 years from now.


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    #26996067 - 10/21/20 10:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The problem is that it is more than 10x less severe than initially suspected. Those people who predicted the death rate should be hanged for creating panic and damaging the economy.

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    #26996141 - 10/21/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The problem is that it is less deadly?!?!

Case fatality rate as of right now sits at 2.75% (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/). Thank you, but I would rather not roll the dice on that.


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    #26996147 - 10/21/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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The problem is that it is more than 10x less severe than initially suspected. Those people who predicted the death rate should be hanged for creating panic and damaging the economy.



I recall the estimates back in early spring being in the neighborhood of 200-300k deaths for this year, or something like a million if we took no action at all. What do you remember?

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    #26997211 - 10/22/20 12:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I have a serious question for the medical professionals here. I asked the same question on Reddit but nobody took me seriously and everyone just laughed at me and downvoted me to hell.

Do the antioxidants and other polyphenols in green, black and oolong teas add any protection in any way to getting covid19?

Every winter since 2014 I have always bought a big bag of good quality matcha to last me through the winter and upped my vitamin c levels and I have never ever gotten sick in the winter since then.

all this year I have been spending quite a bit of money buying really good quality, fresh tea straight from India, Taiwan and Japan. Assam, sencha, gyokuro, matcha, several oolongs mostly medium to dark roasted. This is not junk tea from the grocery stores. I can drink it all day long it has so many flavors and the flavors are so deep and nuanced.

There is a lot of research on tea about how it prevents viruses from doing their thing. I was just wondering if I could get a legit answer on this.

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    #26997339 - 10/22/20 05:23 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

There may be some protective benefit but I wouldnt count on it. East asians drink a lot of tea and that is where this thing started.

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    #26997448 - 10/22/20 07:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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    #26997461 - 10/22/20 07:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Stinging nettle might be better.

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    #26997506 - 10/22/20 08:28 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It's crazy to think that the US is getting almost double the new cases per day as back in March. It doesn't FEEL like shit is hitting the fan because the media has better things to report on because everyone got tired of hearing about Coronavirus.


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    #26997529 - 10/22/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

COVID is life now. It's the 'new normal'. Seems like we'll be living like this for the next couple of years at least, if not longer.

Anyone have any feelings about how long masks and social distancing are going to be with us for?


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    #26997788 - 10/22/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm guessing it will start to fade in about six months and gradually reduce over the course of a year but there will aspects of society that may never revert

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    #26997860 - 10/22/20 12:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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COVID is life now. It's the 'new normal'. Seems like we'll be living like this for the next couple of years at least, if not longer.

Anyone have any feelings about how long masks and social distancing are going to be with us for?




I think masks may become part of the culture to a certain extent sorta the way they are in Asia. It’s such a minor inconvenience and they work, I can see how some people may just choose to wear them on public transportation and such.

Covid really isn’t affecting my psychology in any significant way. I definitely don’t want to catch it. I don’t like getting sick anyways and I’m old enough to worry about the chances of being on the losing end of covid lottery. I’m not paranoid. I just avoid crowds. No indoor restaurants. No bars. Wear mask around strangers. That’s about it. I have one friend who is a covidiot. I do not spend as much time with him as before, but if I choose to hang out with people inside someone’s home I don’t mask or social distance. This past weekend there were four of us sharing a bowl and just not caring. Covid didn’t enter my thoughts. My psychology would probably change a lot if I didn’t live in an area with low level of infection. Living in a visibility conscientious community where people are behaving responsibly is good for everyone’s mental state. I feel bad for people who live in places filled with idiots.


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    #26997864 - 10/22/20 12:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I think a really good motivation is not wanting to be the one that gets everyone you know infected. That is the difference between anti-mask people and good people.


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    #26998165 - 10/22/20 03:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

That had anti-maskers in 1918.



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    #26998180 - 10/22/20 03:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

it definitely affects my psychology

my gf is feeling sick. went to get tested today. until she gets them back I'm lonely. and I'm honestly a little concerned she caught it. she is in charge of an afterschool program

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    #26998190 - 10/22/20 03:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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That had anti-maskers in 1918.






And they’re all dead.


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    #26998333 - 10/22/20 05:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hormel is giving away bacon-scented face masks so you can smell bacon everywhere you go


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    #26998391 - 10/22/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I haven't kept up with the covid-19 numbers since may. what I'm actually really concerned with and I am wondering why nobody at all is talking about this but all the people who actually have to pay rent who stopped getting that extra unemployment money. what's happening with these people? Are they getting evicted now? Are they out on the streets now? Are they living in their cars now? how many people have committed suicide because they ran out of money? I heard about a father who killed himself because he ran out of money and he had kids and a wife.
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They should sell cbd masks to calm everyone the fuck down.

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    #26998401 - 10/22/20 05:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I believe there is a nationwide eviction moratorium. Not sure how much longer that lasts.


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    #26998536 - 10/22/20 07:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I believe there is a nationwide eviction moratorium. Not sure how much longer that lasts.



I thought that ended in August?


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    #26999177 - 10/23/20 06:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You really can’t ask for a more perfect set of data than this. Wear a fucking mask.



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    #27000525 - 10/23/20 09:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

81,000 new cases today in the US. A pandemic record. 7 months into this. For the time being, my region is essentially the best place to be in the country. I assume the idiots in the Midwest will spread it back here through their stupidity


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    #27001112 - 10/24/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

:kingcrankey:


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    #27001937 - 10/24/20 10:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Pretty awesome how well masks work. I've been back at work in a building of ~200 people for over three months. All people wearing masks at all times - zero exceptions. And zero evidence of any workplace transmission. It's a nice microcosm of an intelligent, courteous country like South Korea.

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    #27001942 - 10/24/20 10:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

But hey, the right to not cover your face is more sacred than the life of your neighbor, so I get where these morons in the midwest are coming from.

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    #27001971 - 10/24/20 11:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Another interesting thing about that graph koods posted are the data for DC, WA, and OR -- sites of large protests, yet still on the favorable end of the data set. Large gatherings, but most wear masks.

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