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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Enkidu] * 1
    #27423299 - 08/10/21 08:21 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

If masks are the way to go then I'd need some evidence to support that a mask is effective at preventing the spread and transmission of covid

I don't think it exists. Id love to see it if it does. I read on a pro vaccine and pro mask site that the data is not there, if anyone had the data i would guess it was the people telling to me wear a mask. So interesting when I was searching specifically for that data and evidence, I find on a site telling me to wear a mask that the evidence doesn't exist.

The data I've read uses words like "are thought to prevent" or "might prevent"

Also find it interesting to see the average age of covid deaths in relation to the average age of deaths in general, it looked like an overwhelming number of deaths are in the 50+ age group.

I'm just trying to understand the argument against my argument. Because I don't see it, I do see things that make me believe we are being duped and find it confusing why none of the information from professionals in their field who are stating opposing views to mainstream media are not being seen and are being blocked.

Isn't science about truth and debating facts in order to arrive at the closes truth and arriving at a unanimous consensus of agreement?

Why is there such a disagreement in the scientific community and those opposing main stream view is being silenced..?

I just want facts data and evidence to support what im being told


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: paradoxlost]
    #27423310 - 08/10/21 08:27 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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this is a really interesting video to watch in the context of the antigenic conversation we had earlier. I'm not even going to say whats interesting about these simulations cause you're just going to say i'm wrong despite not watching the literal computer simulations.




I watched the video and it doesn’t address any of the issues you are talking about. That’s shit a bunch of us were taking about last March.





I was more saying how interesting it has to do with the fact that you'd need to vaccinate animals. Nothing I was talking about before. I've just noticed no one reads anyone's sources here.




He said you might have to vaccinate animals for certain diseases if you wanted to eradicate the disease. He’s probably referring to influenza, where animals are the source of the strains encountered year to year.

I don’t think eradication is possible with covid. It doesn’t appear that immunity to coronaviruses is durable enough to allow that to happen. The good news is that once everyone has antibodies, covid becomes just another one of the coronavirus colds that circulate. It’s likely these colds had a covid like pandemic beginning in our past. Children get exposed early in life and just like covid they fare well, and then the antibodies provide protection from serious outcomes later in life. This virus is going to stumble into its optimal genetic configuration eventually, and like the other cold viruses it will stop changing.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Enkidu]
    #27423317 - 08/10/21 08:34 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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If masks are the way to go then I'd need some evidence to support that a mask is effective at preventing the spread and transmission of covid

I don't think it exists. Id love to see it if it does. I read on a pro vaccine and pro mask site that the data is not there, if anyone had the data i would guess it was the people telling to me wear a mask. So interesting when I was searching specifically for that data and evidence, I find on a site telling me to wear a mask that the evidence doesn't exist.

The data I've read uses words like "are thought to prevent" or "might prevent"

Also find it interesting to see the average age of covid deaths in relation to the average age of deaths in general, it looked like an overwhelming number of deaths are in the 50+ age group.

I'm just trying to understand the argument against my argument. Because I don't see it, I do see things that make me believe we are being duped and find it confusing why none of the information from professionals in their field who are stating opposing views to mainstream media are not being seen and are being blocked.

Isn't science about truth and debating facts in order to arrive at the closes truth and arriving at a unanimous consensus of agreement?

Why is there such a disagreement in the scientific community and those opposing main stream view is being silenced..?

I just want facts data and evidence to support what im being told





Then you should go read or explain why you're not reading. That stuff is really easy to find, and it makes straightforward sense. It sounds like you might be experiencing some difficulty because you don't want to listen to your boss and don't care enough to look for evidence to support his point. maybe go to google and type in "does PPE stop transmission of disease" and start there. Then read about respirators. You could also just read the link I posted before and ask question about what's in the article if you don't understand it. If you're not going to put work into learning, then you can't be helped. There is no credible info to support the idea that masks don't help, if that's what you're looking for, so you don't have an argument. It's more of a belligerent opinion as far as I can tell. Maybe you can clarify it, but you should remember that science is comfortable with some uncertainty in it's arguments, and this isn't a philosophical debate.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #27423318 - 08/10/21 08:34 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

You even read that link ?

Must not if you're not understanding why I'm failing to find any actual information supporting the claims.

That article mentioned that a hair follicle on your face can prevent a proper seal, that it needs to be fit tested, how many people in the public are wearing a n95 mask (which can't be found) ? That in of itself makes the post rather obsolete in the whole mask mandate for everyone everywhere who isn't wearing a n95 not to mention that the article in no way provides any data to support the claim that the mask prevents or reduces the spread of covid as much as it makes the assumption that it will, that other masks are just as good and that it is basing this off already accepted information related to other studies and viruses while also claiming that outbreaks in non ventillated areas are cause for concern.

The only thing that article says related to masks and covid is that the mask has been no shown to block 95% of small particles and covid has been shown to spread in larger particles. No evidence to suggest the mask is effective at preventing or reducing transmission of covid.

The entire article is about a lack of n95 masks and how the medical community is coping with it using whatever method and other masks etc.

Not exactly what I was looking for as proof or evidence since it didn't offer any.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Enkidu]
    #27423320 - 08/10/21 08:36 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Enkidu said:
If masks are the way to go then I'd need some evidence to support that a mask is effective at preventing the spread and transmission of covid

I don't think it exists. Id love to see it if it does. I read on a pro vaccine and pro mask site that the data is not there, if anyone had the data i would guess it was the people telling to me wear a mask. So interesting when I was searching specifically for that data and evidence, I find on a site telling me to wear a mask that the evidence doesn't exist.

The data I've read uses words like "are thought to prevent" or "might prevent"

Also find it interesting to see the average age of covid deaths in relation to the average age of deaths in general, it looked like an overwhelming number of deaths are in the 50+ age group.

I'm just trying to understand the argument against my argument. Because I don't see it, I do see things that make me believe we are being duped and find it confusing why none of the information from professionals in their field who are stating opposing views to mainstream media are not being seen and are being blocked.

Isn't science about truth and debating facts in order to arrive at the closes truth and arriving at a unanimous consensus of agreement?

Why is there such a disagreement in the scientific community and those opposing main stream view is being silenced..?

I just want facts data and evidence to support what im being told




If this doesn’t convince you, nothing will. This is some of the strongest correlation you’ll ever see in this kind of real world data.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/10/23/pandemic-data-chart-masks/


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
    #27423323 - 08/10/21 08:41 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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this is a really interesting video to watch in the context of the antigenic conversation we had earlier. I'm not even going to say whats interesting about these simulations cause you're just going to say i'm wrong despite not watching the literal computer simulations.




I watched the video and it doesn’t address any of the issues you are talking about. That’s shit a bunch of us were taking about last March.





I was more saying how interesting it has to do with the fact that you'd need to vaccinate animals. Nothing I was talking about before. I've just noticed no one reads anyone's sources here.




He said you might have to vaccinate animals for certain diseases if you wanted to eradicate the disease. He’s probably referring to influenza, where animals are the source of the strains encountered year to year.

I don’t think eradication is possible with covid. It doesn’t appear that immunity to coronaviruses is durable enough to allow that to happen. The good news is that once everyone has antibodies, covid becomes just another one of the coronavirus colds that circulate. It’s likely these colds had a covid like pandemic beginning in our past. Children get exposed early in life and just like covid they fare well, and then the antibodies provide protection from serious outcomes later in life. This virus is going to stumble into its optimal genetic configuration eventually, and like the other cold viruses it will stop changing.




Wow it's like I said this on 09/19/20

Right here or something

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26943920#26943920


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So far globally 953,318 people have died of covid 19 and it is novel so everyone is getting their first time exposure to it making it a tad worse, it will eliminate people with improper genetic code to respond to it after its first or 2nd global rounds, it will become a common cold.




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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Enkidu]
    #27423325 - 08/10/21 08:43 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Well there's no evidence to support that wearing a diaper on your face doesn't help so let's go ahead and do it instead of asking for evidence it helps.

And there's no evidence to support a vaccine isn't safe so let's take it instead of asking for evidence to support it is.

No I don't have any issue with my boss at all actually, you're making assumptions based on nothing.

What I said was he keeps bringing it up which is annoying to me more or less.

Since he just believes what he believes based on the media as opposed to believing what he believes based on facts.

So that study is based on Facebook users? Having a hard time finding data that shows where those statistics came from, such as who the participants were, what percent of the state population participated in that study, things like that are relevant and important if you want to see what is being shown


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: budmanman] * 1
    #27423329 - 08/10/21 08:45 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

And said it on here the first time right when the pandemic started on 04/29/20

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26635913#26635913

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I highly believe ducks were lined up behind curtains, and are being knocked down with each of these stimulus stuffs going on. A lot of money is/has been/being shifted on many levels, and those who have been called out are mearly scape goat's who may only receive a slap on their wrist and a fine amounting to a fraction of what was made.

Trump has spent three years of his presidency propping up stock markets. Sure, they have taken a hit, they are still above what was seen in 2016. There will be massive casualties on many levels. Companies may never recover from what is happening economically and more will close for good. Yet, there are companies and stocks which seem to be rebounding. Hell, BTC is trading around $7,700 today. 'Essential' companies that make our economy churn, and perhaps some selected for greedy, cheeto cheese covered fingers, have interest in, will see their stocks recover and maybe even higher highs.

Fear has forced people in. In that one hour video, the man being interviewed says that every virus is novel. If they weren't, we would not be infected by them, because our immune systems would have already been in contact and have developed antibodies. This is why a new flu vaccine is given, because each year it changes, on however small a level, making it new and unrecognizable by our immune systems.

He also says that herd immunity has been how humans have delt with viruses for a 100,000 years. By locking everyone down, herd immunity is slowed, extending an amount of time a virus has to live and spread. While we may have estimated 25% herd immunity today, if business would have gone on, herd immunity would probably be a lot higher and this virus could be on its way to extinction, like many others we, as homosapiens, have encountered.

To prevent deaths, elderly people and those with comorbidities must be protected, which on a massive scale, was a failure in US and perhaps other countries as well. Children and those with healthy immune systems should not be forced to shelter in place but to protect themselves and elderly during peak flu seasons. Every. Single. Year.

I don't mean to ruffle feathers, just wanting to show that there are other perspective on this matter. Ones which reference science, history and data.

People are wrong. I trust scientists and medical professionals with years experience who are willing to admit that they are or have been, before I trust those appointed by Trump.

Fear is a very powerful 'thing' to control. Those who are entranced by mainstream media may not be able to escape this wave that has washed over our planet.

While there are others who are brave enough to speak out when shit seems amiss.

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Most scientists have said the opposite of almost everything you say that was the whole point of the thread is people can buy into this and kill people around them from being dumb as a rock. You know the countries that had their economy open also had? Testing enough to get their economy back on track we in the United States have tested about one and a half percent of the entire population. Fauci,birx and every other highly regarded scientists says your wrong and a basic Google search or two would prove you wrong about the seasonal flu being worse.Sure there's tv Drs like Dr phil and Oz saying the same things but they both had to apologize because medical communities everywhere called bull shit. COVID is more deadly and infectious and this whole threads point is you are spreading LIES that are dangerous when you say shit like this and people who actually sacrifice for their neighbor and country are getting fed up with people ignoring science during the worst pandemic in over 100 years. Guess what TONS of people with no underlying conditions that are very young get this. That's science that's not debatable. It's not debatable that in 7 months between 2019-2020 the cdc said the flu killed 60k. With COVID JUST in the US in 3-4 months (if you're bad at math half the time) we are currently sitting at 58 thousand and spiking. Frankly I don't give a flying fuck if you "need a haircut"

Herd immunity with COVID19 is also bullshit conservatives want to push for their agenda of opening despite the losses and eventual set back economically even further then we are now. There's ample evidence that getting COVID doesn't protect you from getting it again or worse the second time. Herd immunity my ass.




Lmao immunity after catching a virus is literally basic virology, I had this stupid virus and am in the research study helping them find out how long immunity lasts. Flu has herd immunity, via people catching it and getting better and vaccinations. Despite herd immunity it still kills a decent amount of people.

Covid 19 is new, we have no natural defense against it yet as anyone who catches it is hosting this virus for the first time as a human being.

This virus will also do the same thing as the flu in the end and likely become just a common cold. Corona viruses are normally just common colds, you know that right?


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Enkidu] * 1
    #27423331 - 08/10/21 08:47 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

"percent of people who know someone with covid"

So basically if everyone knows that one guy who has covid then they all know someone with covid. I mean wtf man..

I'm not trying to pick this apart because I am open to seeing the correlation but using something like that in a study "percent of people who know someone with covid" is a bit ridiculous...

It's not even "percent of people with covid"

Give me a break dude


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Enkidu]
    #27423332 - 08/10/21 08:47 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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You even read that link ?

Must not if you're not understanding why I'm failing to find any actual information supporting the claims.

That article mentioned that a hair follicle on your face can prevent a proper seal, that it needs to be fit tested, how many people in the public are wearing a n95 mask (which can't be found) ? That in of itself makes the post rather obsolete in the whole mask mandate for everyone everywhere who isn't wearing a n95 not to mention that the article in no way provides any data to support the claim that the mask prevents or reduces the spread of covid as much as it makes the assumption that it will, that other masks are just as good and that it is basing this off already accepted information related to other studies and viruses while also claiming that outbreaks in non ventillated areas are cause for concern.

The only thing that article says related to masks and covid is that the mask has been no shown to block 95% of small particles and covid has been shown to spread in larger particles. No evidence to suggest the mask is effective at preventing or reducing transmission of covid.

The entire article is about a lack of n95 masks and how the medical community is coping with it using whatever method and other masks etc.

Not exactly what I was looking for as proof or evidence since it didn't offer any.




You seem to be getting lost in your own denial. maybe quoting the conclusion without all the fancy science will help you if I bold some key words.

"We endorse the health care community’s cry for the best possible protection for all frontline clinicians and essential health care workers. We are further reassured by the cross-sectional study from Long Island, New York, also in this issue of JAMA Internal Medicine,8 demonstrating that the effectiveness of PPE; the frequency of SARS-CoV-2 antibody positivity among hospital employees required to use PPE was no higher than that of the general population in that area. Taken together, these and other emerging data suggest that surgical masks and N95 alternatives will continue to keep clinicians and health care workers safe."

It's the last bit of stuff you have to read in that paper. It's called a conclusion and it summarizes the arguments and their supporting evidence in a way that's easy to understand. It's important to read it before you draw your own conclusions about what the study means.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Enkidu]
    #27423335 - 08/10/21 08:50 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

"fewer symptoms reported"

Which doesn't even mean fewer symptoms.

That's not data or facts. and I'd be curious to know the above mentioned information as to who was polled, percentage of state polled, etc. but based on the wording it doesn't matter anyway.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Enkidu]
    #27423339 - 08/10/21 08:51 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Mr. Guess work. I like to read the data for myself on what leads the person to make the claim as opposed to just reading the claim and accepting the data supports it.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Enkidu]
    #27423350 - 08/10/21 09:00 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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"percent of people who know someone with covid"

So basically if everyone knows that one guy who has covid then they all know someone with covid. I mean wtf man..

I'm not trying to pick this apart because I am open to seeing the correlation but using something like that in a study "percent of people who know someone with covid" is a bit ridiculous...

It's not even "percent of people with covid"

Give me a break dude




Actually it’s a really ingenious way to get at the heart of the matter that doesn’t rely on testing, which is extremely variable. I think the person who designed this study did a good job with that question. “do you know anyone who is sick with covid symptoms?” people living where there is more community spread will say yes more. Asking about covid symptoms vs. covid avoids the problem with testing. A lot of people with symptoms may not get an official diagnosis, and there wasn’t anything else circulating except covid that causes covid symptoms.

Proof is in the pudding. If it were a ridiculous question, you need to explain how the answer correlates so well with mask usage.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Enkidu]
    #27423369 - 08/10/21 09:07 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

So I took a look at that study

Just a quick glance and I noticed PPE is measured using at least 4 different pieces of equipment (mask, gloves, gown, sometimes eye gear, possibly more.)

I stopped reading after that because that creates 4 different variables making it impossible to determine which one had an impact and to what degree making it useless in determining the effectiveness of a mask.

The only thing the study identified was that hospital care workers (those tested) had lower rates than the surrounding area.

That is interesting since I would guess that rates would be higher in hospitals etc.

That has potential to indicate that using all of that protective gear was part of the reason but there is really no limit as to what you could come up with as the reason.

Average age of participants was 42 I think it said and mostly woman. Not sure it stated average age of those outside the study (surrounding area) and if they were mostly woman. Those 3 variables alone could account for the lower rates, potentially. So what am I being shown here I can't see because of my bias that is showing masks prevent covid?


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: Enkidu]
    #27423379 - 08/10/21 09:12 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Mask = ninja = good


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #27423396 - 08/10/21 09:24 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

"all or most of the time"

The wording makes an answer ambiguous.

I'd have to look at the data more like who took the poll, percent of the population, more on what determined the x and y axis since those two statements are really garbage.

Seems like a stupid study that doesn't say much besides what it wants to say butt if you think it's ingenius so be it

The graph does point to the potential that areas that report wearing a mask all or some of the time know less people with covid. I agree.

But not really an end all to the debate imo and very much lacking anything that states without a doubt that a mask reduces the spread and transmission of covid.

Because like I said, I've seen a lot of videos of people who know their shit making statements of the opposite and they use a lot of hard to understand scientific reasoning based on studies as opposed to wording contained in that graph that was drawn from a poll and not scientific data


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #27423398 - 08/10/21 09:27 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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"all or most of the time"

The wording makes an answer ambiguous.




it's just being as objective as possible.
people feeding you absolute truths are more likely to be lying to you IMO

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    #27423400 - 08/10/21 09:28 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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So I took a look at that study

Just a quick glance and I noticed PPE is measured using at least 4 different pieces of equipment (mask, gloves, gown, sometimes eye gear, possibly more.)

I stopped reading after that because that creates 4 different variables making it impossible to determine which one had an impact and to what degree making it useless in determining the effectiveness of a mask.

The only thing the study identified was that hospital care workers (those tested) had lower rates than the surrounding area.

That is interesting since I would guess that rates would be higher in hospitals etc.

That has potential to indicate that using all of that protective gear was part of the reason but there is really no limit as to what you could come up with as the reason.

Average age of participants was 42 I think it said and mostly woman. Not sure it stated average age of those outside the study (surrounding area) and if they were mostly woman. Those 3 variables alone could account for the lower rates, potentially. So what am I being shown here I can't see because of my bias that is showing masks prevent covid?




Taken together, these and other emerging data suggest that surgical masks and N95 alternatives will continue to keep clinicians and health care workers safe


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    #27423403 - 08/10/21 09:29 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Idk maybe I'm just in denial I guess and just completely blind to the truth

These experts in their field who are just normal everyday people and not big shots on mainstream media are just convincing and seem so trustworthy.

Like they just make claims based on their professional opinion not based on a Facebook poll

Wow so because that article said that this will continue to keep people safe then that means that mask prevent the spread of covid. You're an idiot


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    #27423413 - 08/10/21 09:36 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

So why is it if someone has a video of say a biologist or a doctor stating their professional and scientific opinion that disagrees or contradicts statements made in main stream media, CDC, etc, they are blocked, flagged, fact checked, reported, and a message pops up saying get info from "whatever source" ???

There's a lot of people saying different things against this main stream consensus of covid, masks, vaccines.

Is it just bullshit to fuel people like me who are ignorant and stupid and can't see the truth...?

Because I must be stupid or something must be wrong with me since I'm like part of this tiny group of people who disagree with what's going on and what it's being made out to be and how it's being used against the public and society


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