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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
    #27422600 - 08/10/21 12:44 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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koods said:
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Koods is wrong.

Mutations are random. Their drift through a genome after being passed to their progeny can be either random or epigenetically controlled.




I just said mutations are random and I’m wrong? Wtf dude.





You're wrong in that, I 100% understand the epigenetic forces at play here and you don't.


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[quote]koods said:
Asante, I don’t think we should have any sympathy and should celebrate the deaths of antivax/antimask activists. They are responsible for far more American deaths than al Qaeda ever was. Every time one of them dies ther movement of death is weakened.ut[/quote]

[quote]koods said:
Chasing variants with vaccines is a dumb idea[/quote]


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: paradoxlost]
    #27422602 - 08/10/21 12:45 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Antivaxxers are dropping like flies

Conservative radio host and vaccine critic dies of covid-19 complications





What does that have to do with anything, please stick to peer reviewed sources




This is the covid thread, not the paradoxlost spews fringe theories thread


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: paradoxlost]
    #27422604 - 08/10/21 12:45 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

paradoxlost said:
Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

paradoxlost said:
Koods is wrong.

Mutations are random. Their drift through a genome after being passed to their progeny can be either random or epigenetically controlled.




I just said mutations are random and I’m wrong? Wtf dude.





You're wrong in that, I 100% understand the epigenetic forces at play here and you don't. If you did you'd understand there is a subsect of people who it makes sense to no get any vaccine


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[quote]koods said:
Asante, I don’t think we should have any sympathy and should celebrate the deaths of antivax/antimask activists. They are responsible for far more American deaths than al Qaeda ever was. Every time one of them dies ther movement of death is weakened.ut[/quote]

[quote]koods said:
Chasing variants with vaccines is a dumb idea[/quote]


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
    #27422605 - 08/10/21 12:46 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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koods said:
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paradoxlost said:
Quote:

koods said:
Antivaxxers are dropping like flies

Conservative radio host and vaccine critic dies of covid-19 complications





What does that have to do with anything, please stick to peer reviewed sources




This is the covid thread, not the paradoxlost spews fringe theories thread



I posted two studies as well as modeling software for antigenic spread of covid19


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[quote]koods said:
Asante, I don’t think we should have any sympathy and should celebrate the deaths of antivax/antimask activists. They are responsible for far more American deaths than al Qaeda ever was. Every time one of them dies ther movement of death is weakened.ut[/quote]

[quote]koods said:
Chasing variants with vaccines is a dumb idea[/quote]


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: paradoxlost]
    #27422606 - 08/10/21 12:47 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Misinformation?! I havent added a damn thing to this thread, just asked questions lol.

You officially suck.





Also by IMMEDIATELY assuming I was wrong you were giving the impression I was. Clearly I wasn't. Misinformation. You went hard as fuck.





Also IMMEDIATLY, you started sayiny you were worried about vaccine resistant strains, like thats something to be worried about.
SYing all this bullshit, expecting us to read it and tell you what to here, when you couldnt even make since or explain anything within the artilce, sure you were reading it and quoting it, but you clearly couldnt grasp the concepts in enough undwrsranding to articulate it in your own words, and continued to site unrelated qrticles that you fel could fit more appripriqtly with what you were actually saying, depebing in what you were saying and what story you were siting. I hqve no fucking clue how you sited so many unrelated scientific articles for one yhing.
I didnt evwn read your link, and im glad i didnt, my times valuabke, but im sure so is bid and kooks and your lucky they even took the time to try and explain this shit to you.
The way i see if if you cant* givw a basic laymans terms understanding to me, you probably dont understand it, and thats all you showed by pulling up these article trying to grasp for whatevwr you could with them just to get pulles down more, i cant believe i even reread some of the stuff i did, you literally changed the topic like 5 or 6 times, as far as reasoning why you think this is the wrong approach.
I get it your vaccinated, mask, good. But how you can go out on a limb, again, for sucu speculation.

And im done giving this to you even. I hope ypu dont get to mucj more atyention in this thread


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: paradoxlost]
    #27422607 - 08/10/21 12:47 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

You post news stories cause idk, you're a coward?


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[quote]koods said:
Asante, I don’t think we should have any sympathy and should celebrate the deaths of antivax/antimask activists. They are responsible for far more American deaths than al Qaeda ever was. Every time one of them dies ther movement of death is weakened.ut[/quote]

[quote]koods said:
Chasing variants with vaccines is a dumb idea[/quote]


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: paradoxlost]
    #27422609 - 08/10/21 12:47 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

paradoxlost said:
Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

paradoxlost said:
Koods is wrong.

Mutations are random. Their drift through a genome after being passed to their progeny can be either random or epigenetically controlled.




I just said mutations are random and I’m wrong? Wtf dude.





You're wrong in that, I 100% understand the epigenetic forces at play here and you don't.




You have a pet theory. Good for you. Time to make a new thread and stop polluting this one.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: QM33]
    #27422612 - 08/10/21 12:49 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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QM33 said:
Quote:

paradoxlost said:
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QM33 said:
Misinformation?! I havent added a damn thing to this thread, just asked questions lol.

You officially suck.





Also by IMMEDIATELY assuming I was wrong you were giving the impression I was. Clearly I wasn't. Misinformation. You went hard as fuck.





Also IMMEDIATLY, you started sayiny you were worried about vaccine resistant strains, like thats something to be worried about.
SYing all this bullshit, expecting us to read it and tell you what to here, when you couldnt even make since or explain anything within the artilce, sure you were reading it and quoting it, but you clearly couldnt grasp the concepts in enough undwrsranding to articulate it in your own words, and continued to site unrelated qrticles that you fel could fit more appripriqtly with what you were actually saying, depebing in what you were saying and what story you were siting. I hqve no fucking clue how you sited so many unrelated scientific articles for one yhing.
I didnt evwn read your link, and im glad i didnt, my times valuabke, but im sure so is bid and kooks and your lucky they even took the time to try and explain this shit to you.
The way i see if if you can givw a basic laymans terms understanding to me, you probably dont understand it, and thats all you showed by pulling up these article trying to grasp for whatevwr you could with them just to get pulles down more, i cant believe i even reread some of the stuff i did, you literally changed the topic like 5 or 6 times, as far as reasoning why you think this is the wrong approach.
I get it your vaccinated, mask, good. But how you can go out on a limb, again, for sucu speculation.

And im done giving this to you even. I hope ypu dont get to mucj more atyention in this thread





You know cause discount in this country has gotten so fucking bad where if I believe one thing I have to believe everything else or I'm a retard or dangerous for society. Someone made a speculative question. I answered speculatively, and granted it was cannibated, who called me retarded first not you, but that's so fucked. You're going out of your way to alienate people you need vaccinated to save your life. That's so dumb.

Nothing is so dangerous that it should not be talked about


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[quote]koods said:
Asante, I don’t think we should have any sympathy and should celebrate the deaths of antivax/antimask activists. They are responsible for far more American deaths than al Qaeda ever was. Every time one of them dies ther movement of death is weakened.ut[/quote]

[quote]koods said:
Chasing variants with vaccines is a dumb idea[/quote]


Edited by paradoxlost (08/10/21 12:51 PM)


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
    #27422614 - 08/10/21 12:49 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

My DNA is fine.



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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
    #27422615 - 08/10/21 12:49 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

paradoxlost said:
Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

paradoxlost said:
Koods is wrong.

Mutations are random. Their drift through a genome after being passed to their progeny can be either random or epigenetically controlled.




I just said mutations are random and I’m wrong? Wtf dude.





You're wrong in that, I 100% understand the epigenetic forces at play here and you don't.




You have a pet theory. Good for you. Time to make a new thread and stop polluting this one.





You have a pet theory. Go make a new thread. Stop.polluting this one.


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[quote]koods said:
Asante, I don’t think we should have any sympathy and should celebrate the deaths of antivax/antimask activists. They are responsible for far more American deaths than al Qaeda ever was. Every time one of them dies ther movement of death is weakened.ut[/quote]

[quote]koods said:
Chasing variants with vaccines is a dumb idea[/quote]


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: paradoxlost]
    #27422620 - 08/10/21 12:52 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

You answered speculatively and then started to defend you position with whatever you could, even unrelated to the virus, wheb you were told it wasnt something ro worry about. Thats how this started.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: QM33] * 1
    #27422626 - 08/10/21 12:55 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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You answered speculatively and then started to defend you position with whatever you could, even unrelated to the virus, wheb you were told it wasnt something ro worry about. Thats how this started.





Yea cause my point is that is a process that occurs in all living things and you should be expecting it to happen and if it doesn't that is some insane shit cause you stopped evolution.

And you're right I should have used.google earlier. This would have been over more quickly. I just didnt think anyone has done the research cause....the media hasn't reported on it.

It's not a fringe pet theory. It's been the focus of the virus research apparently since the vaccine came out.


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[quote]koods said:
Asante, I don’t think we should have any sympathy and should celebrate the deaths of antivax/antimask activists. They are responsible for far more American deaths than al Qaeda ever was. Every time one of them dies ther movement of death is weakened.ut[/quote]

[quote]koods said:
Chasing variants with vaccines is a dumb idea[/quote]


Edited by paradoxlost (08/10/21 12:58 PM)


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: paradoxlost]
    #27422631 - 08/10/21 12:59 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

We are all expecting immune resistance. When that happens you update the vaccine with new antigens. Problem solved


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods] * 1
    #27422634 - 08/10/21 01:02 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Except when that doesn't work because of.logistcal problems in supply chain, mutations away from antigen therapy, etc. Like the 'adapt or die' study I posted.

I was wondering why you like understood why the mRNA strategy was being used but not why the reinfection rates for vaccinated people are so terrifying.

I guess that's my bad for sure, using 'cause' the way it would be used in ecology. Like it's just easier to say it caused it in certain circumstances when it definitely did.

But yea, so you can understand the argument then, where you aren't seeing like polio or small pox effectiveness in a vaccine why the strategy would be different in applying it in a population. Vaccine resistence often times comes with more severe symptoms in other species.

An example would be chicken pox parties for young or not at risk people. It's not like children don't die from chicken pox, but enough where it is worth the risk to expose a child of a certain age.


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[quote]koods said:
Asante, I don’t think we should have any sympathy and should celebrate the deaths of antivax/antimask activists. They are responsible for far more American deaths than al Qaeda ever was. Every time one of them dies ther movement of death is weakened.ut[/quote]

[quote]koods said:
Chasing variants with vaccines is a dumb idea[/quote]


Edited by paradoxlost (08/10/21 01:05 PM)


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: paradoxlost]
    #27422638 - 08/10/21 01:04 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Are the rates terrifying? The UK had a delta surge and almost nobody died because of their high vaccination rates.

I literally don’t care if I get covid now because I’m vaccinated and I’ll get a runny nose.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods] * 1
    #27422640 - 08/10/21 01:06 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Are the rates terrifying? The UK had a delta surge and almost nobody died because of their high vaccination rates.

I literally don’t care if I get covid now because I’m vaccinated and I’ll get a runny nose.



The issue wouldn't be this one or the next one it would be like ten years fr now when the virus gets it down.

Understand the less and less serious the varients are the less and less people get vaccinated, which could be a problem as well.


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[quote]koods said:
Asante, I don’t think we should have any sympathy and should celebrate the deaths of antivax/antimask activists. They are responsible for far more American deaths than al Qaeda ever was. Every time one of them dies ther movement of death is weakened.ut[/quote]

[quote]koods said:
Chasing variants with vaccines is a dumb idea[/quote]


Edited by paradoxlost (08/10/21 01:07 PM)


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
    #27422643 - 08/10/21 01:07 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I have a runny nose now and I went to a sold out concert two days ago at nationals stadium and a packed casino on Saturday. Maybe I have covid. I don’t care.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
    #27422644 - 08/10/21 01:08 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Well you should isolate yourself! Ok now I'm done. Clearly you don't understand epigenetics or population dynamics


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Asante, I don’t think we should have any sympathy and should celebrate the deaths of antivax/antimask activists. They are responsible for far more American deaths than al Qaeda ever was. Every time one of them dies ther movement of death is weakened.ut[/quote]

[quote]koods said:
Chasing variants with vaccines is a dumb idea[/quote]


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: paradoxlost]
    #27422645 - 08/10/21 01:11 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

The unvaccinated can fend for themselves


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
    #27422655 - 08/10/21 01:17 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Understand the less and less serious the varients are the less and less people get vaccinated,




This isn’t true at all. The only thing acquired immunity selects for is resistance to that immunity

The delta variant arose in a country with almost no vaccinations. It is successful because it’s far more contagious.


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